Proof so called "Greek's" are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's).

**Makedonec69** · 01-30-2014, 05:19 AM

The truth hurts for the TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) fake Gayreek Gypsies so spam this everywhere and spread the truth.

**Makedonec69** · 01-30-2014, 05:20 AM

Makedonija za zivot!

**George S.** · 01-30-2014, 08:41 AM

Seeing that the shiptare's are doing all this work supporting & propping Greece,when is their reward coming like rights of minorities in Greece or are they happy bunch of cocunuts with their lot in life.

**Makedonec69** · 01-31-2014, 02:23 AM

I guess the Gayreek Gypsies screwed them there, all of them live in Epirus and took the northern part of it over and is like the town Tetovo in Republic Of Macedonia, town full of Shiptari.

**TrueMacedonian** · 02-01-2014, 09:46 PM

Not all of them were/are "TurkoShiptari" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgari

**Gocka** · 02-02-2014, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Makedonec69 View Post

I guess the Gayreek Gypsies screwed them there, all of them live in Epirus and took the northern part of it over and is like the town Tetovo in Republic Of Macedonia, town full of Shiptari.

Seriously man whats your problem? How can you be so ignorant!!!

They are not turks and gypsies, they are also Macedonians, Bulgarians, Vlachs, Albanians, as well as Turks, Gypsies, Romanians, Armenians and a slew of middle eastern and African migrants.

Its like a a giant Mandza of people.

**Redsun** · 02-02-2014, 12:32 AM

Like a multicultural country such as Australia, but without the cultural tolerance. Cant express your culture, must pretend to be greek.

**Makedonec69** · 02-07-2014, 03:55 AM

I ain't ignorant, you can't ignore the truth in the facts that I posted to you's that Greek's are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's) beh.

According to historians, authors, statesmen,
academics etc, modern Greeks
spoke Albanian before the masses of population
began to learn their new
language called Greek. Although, there were many
different languages at the turn of 1800-century and actually well into 1900- century. We know why the
Greek state began a major build out of state schools
in the
second half of 1800-century. During this period the
newly formed state realized that it had to educate
and teach the large masses of how to speak Greek. This fact is also reflected by what it meant to be
"Greek"
at the time of
independence. You would think that speaking a
language called Greek would be a qualification,
but this was NOT the case. Instead, all it took to be qualified as "Greek" was to
be a Christian believer. This was written in the
constitution itself. The state did not consider
language as part of the identity as they knew that
the big masses
of people did not speak "Greek". Had the big masses of people spoken "Greek",
then there would
not be a massive build out of state schools to teach
people
"Greek". Here below we can see what historians and
professors are saying.========= "The Usable Past" - 2003 By
K.S Brown & Professor
Yannis Hamilakis Page
140: "..As a result of a number of historical factors,
much of the rural population in
central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern
Greek state in the 1830s" ========== "ALBANIA
- The Rise of a Kingdom"
By J.Swire - 1971 Page 11: "...In an article in the
Greek monthly magazine, Parnassos - February
1916, it is stated that "the majority of our soldiers speak
to one another in the Albanian language....a very
deplorable
habit.....It is expedient that this habit be destroyed
by all necessary and
vigorous means". Prince Lichonowsky wrote: "the so-called Greek national dess itself is of Albanian
orgin".=========
VENIZELOS (Famous
Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920,
1932) By Herbert Adams
Gibbons, Ph.D [At The Peace Conferance] Page 346: "...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of
national consciousness as
the test
of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to
raise the objection that a
substantial portion of the Greek population uses Albanian as its mother tongue, and is,
consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"
========== The Empty Cradle of
Democracy Alexandra Halkias Page 59: "...Through
the end of the revolution in 1830,
Greeks, including most of the nineteenth-century nationalists, seemed to have had
a vague but firm sense of continuity from ancient to
modern Greece, though
this was not articulated in
racial terms but on the basis of a common
language, history and consciousness. In effect at this time, whoever
called themselves a Greek was a Greek. It is
because of this that many Greek-
speaking
Albanians, Slavs,
Rumanians and Vlachs were easily assimilated and indeed became important players in Greek
patriotism at the time.”
========== POLITICS IN MODERN GREECE
By Professor Keith R. Legg Page 86:
LANGUAGE "..At the time of independence, the
range in local dialects was significant; substantial portions of the population spoke
Albanian" ==========
New York Times - June 2009 Nikos Dimou “.....We
used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans,
but then
Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us,‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants
of Plato and
Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has
such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never
recover".

William ST. Clair
“That Greece Might Still Be Free” Oxford
University
Press – 1972 Page 232:
“..It was probably at this time
(independence) that the Albanian dress made its, decisive step towards being regarded as the
national dress of Greece. The Government
party, being largely Albanians
themselves, favoured the dress and
a version of it was common among the Greek
“klephts” and “armatoli”. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim
to be a soldier
and share in the bonanza”========= You all
read that? The
GOVERNMENT
party, being largely Albanians themseleves....====== "Modern
Greece A Short History" C.M. Woodhouse Page 163
"....It is a striking fact that the leading defenders of
Greek liberty at this time were largely Non-
Greek. Koundouriotis was decended from the
Albanian invadors of Greece in the 14th century...One
of the few leaders who maintained resistance far to
the north of the Gulf of Corinth
was
the Souliote,Marko Botsaris,whos followers were
largely Albanian" ========== You all read that? Defenders of Greek liberty
were LARGELY
NON- Greek.

**Sweet Sixteen** · 02-07-2014, 07:49 AM

I'll just give you a motive. I will take the challenge and answer that (yes, ALL of that) if you DO bother to re-edit it properly so that it is readable. Delete the un-necessary ENTERs, leave paragraphs and provide references so that we know if an author refers to the text above or below him, insert active links properly and mostly CHECK first what you copy-paste.

You SHOULD bother to have some respect for the readers .Did you really check these YouTube videos? They are very poorly made and have NO VISUAL content. Can you read what I write? Can we contact through texts? Or do you think I should put it in a YouTube video where text appears slowly (within 10 minutes) while we can listen to the music?

Lastly, is there a point in having the EXACT SAME debate in 10 different threads? Shouldn�t you wonder if you have something new to add, and then add it in a relevant thread?

**Makedonec69** · 02-09-2014, 10:19 AM

I did not write that, I found it on the Topix Macedonian website written or copied and pasted by someone else and posted it on here because I thought the Topic would be interesting to talk about and cause I wanted to expose the real TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) origins of the TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsies from the Former TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Undemocratic Republic Of Gayreece (Hell Ass).

I am aware that this topic may be posted on other threads even though I am new on here, I just cbf looking for them.

Some of the YouTube videos are made by people to explain the truth and some are from documentaries and etc... And there are also links from non proper and proper sources which explains the truth of the real TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) origins of TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsies from the Former TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Undemocratic Republic Of Gayreece (Hell Ass).

**Makedonec69** · 02-09-2014, 10:26 AM

Why don't you's peeps on the Macedonia Truth Forum go on the Topix Macedonia forums also and argue politics there? Because the TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsies from the Former TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Undemocratic Republic Of Gayreece (Hell Ass) are spamming their TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsy propaganda all over the Topix Macedonia forums every day. Why don't you's peeps go there and shut them up and piss them off from the Topix Macedonia forum by posting the truth you's have posted in comments on threads from this forum to the other one?

**EgejskaMakedonia** · 02-11-2014, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Makedonec69 View Post

Why don't you's peeps on the Macedonia Truth Forum go on the Topix Macedonia forums also and argue politics there? Because the TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsies from the Former TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Undemocratic Republic Of Gayreece (Hell Ass) are spamming their TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) Gayreek Gypsy propaganda all over the Topix Macedonia forums every day. Why don't you's peeps go there and shut them up and piss them off from the Topix Macedonia forum by posting the truth you's have posted in comments on threads from this forum to the other one?

Why would we? It's impossible to have any sort of dialogue on that website because that's exactly what it is, spam. What we have with the MTO is far, far better. It provides a wealth of information in an organised and consolidated manner, without the constant name-calling and spam that occurs on Topix.

Let them post all their rubbish on Topix, nobody cares. The same 'Greeks' who constantly post on the Macedonian area of Topix are the same losers who post on every single Macedonian youtube video, regardless of the topic. Stuff 'em, they aren't worth the time. Trust me when I say that they get a lot more pissed off with what goes on here. Unearthing the truth and exposing them for who they are in a domain controlled by Macedonians hurts them deeply. It's why so many of them try to sign up here and stay under the radar. 99% of the time they cannot contain themselves and end up cracking. It's actually quite funny.

**Stojacanec** · 02-11-2014, 04:30 AM

^Mate I tried to have a debate with some pederi from Topix. It went backward and forward a few times until he/she/it couldn't convince me of their propaganda - so ended up threatening me that he can find out where I live etc.

These malakas make me laugh when you see them begging the Germans for more money. They claim to be European, more like the pan handlers of Europe.

I believe in Karma.

**Soldier of Macedon** · 02-12-2014, 02:08 AM

Topix is frequented by some of the most intellectually inferior degenerates and racists on the net, perhaps surpassed in stupidity only by network54. I wouldn't waste a second of my time there.

Proof so called "Greek's" are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's).

Proof so called "Greek's" are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's).

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