
Ethnic map showing where Albanian was spoken in the Peloponnese, 1890!
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On 10 April, the Venetians evacuated Attica for the Peloponnese.
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The tax income of the Morea was collected from taxpayers consisting of 11242 hane (adult male married heads of households), 1,387 milcerred (bachelors) and 756 hive (widows). Division of the taxpayers into subdistricts is as follows : Vostitsa (1,559 households, 266 bachelors, 87 widows), Hlemoutsi (665 households, 74 bachelors, 42 widows), Goumero (1,368 households, 159 bachelors, 70 widows), Krevukor (1,221 households, 131 bachelors, 51 widows), Arkadia (259 households, 38 bachelors, 16 widows), Leondari (1,153 households, 153 bachelors, 107 widows), Corinth (707 households, 84 bachelors, 83 widows), Palaia Patra (616 households, 65 bachelors, 66 widows), Kalavrita (849 households, 97 bachelors, 35 widows), Mukhli (263 households. 35 bachelors, 16 widows), Bezenik (411 households, 93 bachelors, 26 widows), Kalandritsa (232 households, 34 bachelors, 20 widows), Santomer (241 households, 17 bachelors, 16 widows), Grevcna (588 households, 34 bachelors, 35 widows), Ag. Ilia (630 households, 98 bachelors, 41 widows), Gardichko (671 households, 35 bachelors, 37 widows) and Mistre (9 households, 1 bachelor). The ruling class was not included in the number of taxpaying subjects. The population of the Morea was made up of 6,473 Christian Greek households (57.58 %) and 4,769 Albanian households (42.42 %), totaling 11,242 households. Albanians tended to live in the interior mountainous regions and in small villages, whilst Greeks tended to live in the coastal region, in large villages and cities. The number of taxpaying bachelors was 1,387 consisting of 901 Greek (64.96 %) and 486 Albanian (35.03 %). The number of taxpaying widows was 756 and was made up of 529 Greek (66.97 %) and 227 Albanian (30.02 %).
There were 567 villages in the Morea, grouped into 17 subdistricts (12 of them were joined with cities). There were 152 villages inhabited by Greeks, 411 by Albanians and 4 villages by Greeks and Albanians. 26.45 % of the villages of the Morea were made up of Greeks, 72.48 % by Albanians and 0.70 % were mixed. The villages were divided as follows : Vostitsa : 36 Greek + 29 Albanian + 1 mixed = 66 ; Hlemoutsi : 9 Greek + 23 Albanian = 32 villages ; Goumero : 16 Greek + 54 Albanian = 70 villages ; Krevukor : 16 Greek + 52 Albanian = 68 villages ; Arkadia : 9 Greek + 3 Albanian + 2 mixed = 14 villages ; Leondari : 10 Greek + 47 Albanian = 57 villages ; Corinth : 4 Greek + 16 Albanian = 20 villages ; Palaia Patra : 11 Greek + 16 Albanian + 1 mixed = 28 villages ; Kalavrita : 17 Greek + 36 Albanian = 53 villages ; Mukhli : 2 Greek + 4 Albanian = 6 villages ; Bezenik : 5 Greek + 13 Albanian = 18 villages ; Kalandritsa : 13 Albanian villages, Santameri : 1 Greek + 8 Albanian = 9 villages ; Grevena : 5 Greek + 45 Albanian = 50 villages ; Ag. Ilia : 8 Greek + 19 Albanian = 27 villages ; Gardichko : 2 Greek + 33 Albanian = 35 villages ; and Mistra (which was missing) 1 Greek village. The above information was taken from the tahrir defter (survey register) dated 1460-1463. As far as can be determined from the first survey register from the Morea, the Ottomans recorded in detail the population and economic resources taken from the despotate of the Morea and they settled a new ruling class in the region.
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Page (of the book) 13-14.
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Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostI read a google translation of the Albanian link and I see several problems.
Do you have a link of the "other" part of the census, as it seems the added numbers of the two databases are not the whole of Peloponnese but less than half of it (i.e. NW and central).
Secondly, I'm a little confused on who made the classification to Romans & Arvanites. At some part it seems the Turkish documents classified each village, in other parts it is implied this is a result of calculations (the two ethnic groups paid for some reasons different taxes) or a process of the surnames recorded for each village?
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Bernard Raldoph claims that Albanians of Attica were more numerous than in Peloponnese. So I wonder if there is another version of those events. ( Albanians not that numerous as we expected)
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According to medieval historian Philip Daileader in 2007:
The trend of recent research is pointing to a figure more like 45–50% of the European population dying during a four-year period. There is a fair amount of geographic variation. In Mediterranean Europe, areas such as Italy, the south of France and Spain, where plague ran for about four years consecutively, it was probably closer to 75–80% of the population. In Germany and England ... it was probably closer to 20%.
Goodness!
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Dimitris Stathakopoulos is a Doctor of Sociology in History and Civilization (Ottoman period) of Panteion University, a lawyer at Areo Paou - Musicologist.
The work shows that Muslim-Turks (Ottoman Albanians and Turks) of the Peloponnese, in order to save themselves from the massacres, were baptized Christians (and today, represent the Arvanites, promoting minority projects).
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Province of Arcadia. The Turks call it Mora Orta, that is, the Center or Middle of the Morea. Here are very rich Turks, who have their Wealth in Land and Cattle; most being Graziers and Husbandmen. This is the only place which deserves the Name of a Town in the whole Province. The Great Moske was former∣ly a Heathen Temple. The Houses are very mean: The Turks live most in their Farms, which they call Cheftlicks, not being in danger of Pyrats. The Province of Arcadia is all surrounded with Mountains, most of which are covered with Woods. Yearly they burn the Grass and Bryers to clear the ground against the Spring, then very good Pasture grows up in its stead. There hath been many Villages, some have been Cities, but now the Albaneses, (who are the Shep∣herds, and three times the Number, as the Turks, and Greeks which are in these parts) live most in Tents, re∣moving their Tents and Herds according to the season of the Year. In the Summer time they are up in the Mountains, and in the Winter they are in the Woods by the Sea side, being more or less Tents together. There are a sort of these Albaneses which have a great Village called Syleman, as the Mountains have the same Name. These Albaneses have often Rebelled and kept themselves up in the Mountains, doing much mischief by Robbery. They were so strong in the Year 1679, as the Bassha went with 500 Men to reduce them by granting a General Pardon.
Full describition of Arcadia by Bernard Radolph.
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Originally posted by Carlin15 View PostIn subsequent centuries additional Albanians flooded from the north (some Muslims by then), and settled in various districts of Morea.
Albanians are described as still being masters of the Morea - who raided at will, spreading their attacks agains the Turks too. As an example, they completely wrecked Monemvasia. Andre Castellan described the upper city of Monemvasia as follows in 1797:
"a large heap of ruins. You see everywhere traces of the last war, the walls are riddled by bullets and blackened by the fire, the roads are strewn with debris from the bombs."
The Albanians profaned and burned down the church of Elkomenos, which remained 'unofficiated' during the larger part of the decade after 1770.
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To restore the province, settlers were encouraged to immigrate from the other Greek lands with the lure of considerable land grants, chiefly from Attica but also from other parts of Central Greece, especially the areas that suffered during the war. 2,000 Cretans, and also Catholic Chians, Venetian citizens from the Ionian Islands and even some Bulgarians answered this call. In addition, mention is made of 1,317 Muslim families that remained behind, converted to Christianity and were given lands or enterprises as concessions. As a result of these policies, the population recovered rapidly: apart from Mani, the Venetian registers record 97,118 inhabitants in 1691, 116,000 a year later and 176,844 by 1700. Due to the relative privileges granted the urban population, the period was also marked by an influx of the agrarian population to the cities
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Athens This question has been asked several times, and should be addressed properly once and for all. While I will agree that pockets of Romaic-speakers lived in what were to become the domains of the modern 'Hellenic' state and elsewhere in the Balkans, particularly where it concerns the main trading areas (where as it so
My long post (copy-paste) is taken from Hammond's book.
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Originally posted by Carlin15 View PostThe following comes from Page 88 of John Shea's book. It all comes from N. Hammond.
Now - why would we consider Greek-speaking Slavs as ethnic Greeks (whatever the century or region)? Are Greek-speaking Slavs any more Greeks, than say French (Creole)-speaking Haitians are ethnically French - or English-speaking Jamaicans are ethnically English/Anglo-Saxon, etc.?
Yes, I noticed (right after my post) that the source is Hammond. I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before somewhere. Can anybody find Hammond's passages and arguments on Peloponnesus population?
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The following comes from Page 88 of John Shea's book. It all comes from N. Hammond.
Now - why would we consider Greek-speaking Slavs as ethnic Greeks (whatever the century or region)? Are Greek-speaking Slavs any more Greeks, than say French (Creole)-speaking Haitians are ethnically French - or English-speaking Jamaicans are ethnically English/Anglo-Saxon, etc.?
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Originally posted by Carlin15 View PostI wonder how is the following explained away...
"By the middle of the fourteenth and early fifteenth century the majority of people in the Peloponnese were Albanian-speakers."
From URLs:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=7Ws...bXAkcQ6AEILTAB
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