Are you born or do you become Greek? TM's special reply

[Coastal]

Ataturk was Macedonian . Half Macedonian.

Julie...does it really matter what was his half dna? Ataturk was the most Turk ,of any Turk ever He acted as a Turk,fought for Turkey,feeled a Turk.
The same goes for Napoleon-what if he was half Greek(they say Maniot of Corsica) half Mongol ,or half Zulu.
He was definetely 100% French.

[julie]

I find it implausible that Napoleon was Greek.

[Stojacanec]

Julie...does it really matter what was his half dna? Ataturk was the most Turk ,of any Turk ever He acted as a Turk,fought for Turkey,feeled a Turk.
The same goes for Napoleon-what if he was half Greek(they say Maniot of Corsica) half Mongol ,or half Zulu.
He was definetely 100% French.

Ah, keep this rational at arms length Coastal.

Your Greek patriotins make Goce Delcev as a Bulgarian.

Well if he was Bulgarian and with the above sentiments in mind why didn't he just go to Sofia and smoke a pipe on his lazy chair,,,,,,instead he fought for an autonomous and free Macedonia?

[Coastal]

Ah, keep this rational at arms length Coastal.

Your Greek patriotins make Goce Delcev as a Bulgarian.

Well if he was Bulgarian and with the above sentiments in mind why didn't he just go to Sofia and smoke a pipe on his lazy chair,,,,,,instead he fought for an autonomous and free Macedonia?

Stojanec,everyone who fought and risked his life for Macedonia is Macedonian.
The same goes for those who fought for Greece and Bulgaria.

You may know that Pitu Guli had a Vlach origin-Is he Macedonian or not? By the racist logic of people like TM ,he is not!

Pardon me ..but i won't follow this witch hunting .Human beings are not dogs to be examined for their purity of race.

[julie]

Coastal, may I ask your nationality please? mother, father self?

[Coastal]

Coastal, may I ask your nationality please? mother, father self?

Greek. .

[johnMKD]

Greek. .

Which part of Greece are you from, Coastal?

[julie]

Coastal, are you a Macedonian?

[Coastal]

Coastal, are you a Macedonian?

Guys....tell me about you too...
not in with a lamp to your face to confess.....It would be nice just to relax and have a normal chit chat.
I will refrain from posting in many threads...maybe we should talk for those who connect us and not for those who divide us.

I am from Macedonia ,yes.
Which part of Macedonia do you descend from? Do you live in RoM ?

[julie]

My mother is from Aegean Macedonia, Dolno Kotori, Lerin, Florina.
My father is from a village oleveni near Bitola , RoM
Born in Australia.

Are both your parents from the Aegean Coastal?

[Coastal]

My mother is from Aegean Macedonia, Dolno Kotori, Lerin, Florina.
My father is from a village oleveni near Bitola , RoM
Born in Australia.

Are both your parents from the Aegean Coastal?

Yeap,Mother's side Chalkidiki ,Father's side Pieria.

Dolno Kotori (now Kato Ydroussa) ..just found info ..founded in 1680,750m high , 425 people , one old windmill -1850 , there is a fest on 15th of August
Have you ever been there?

[julie]

Yes as a very small child 40 years ago. One day would love the opportunity to go back, home.
The feast day for the Holy Virgin Mary , you have done your homework!
Were you born in Aegean Macedonia too?

[Serdarot]

Guys...
...maybe we should talk for those who connect us and not for those who divide us.

well, Pavlos Melas and Germanos Karavangeli(s) connect us too, but on very unpleasent way.

i think one of the things you modern Greeks should do is opening some painful subjects from the last 200 years.

so long you (as a State of Greece) celebrate people who should be judged for crimes against the Humanity, it is hard to put on side some things.

edit:

since "we spread brotherhood and sisterhood..."

ja su ot Lerincko. znajs po nashe?

[Coastal]

well, Pavlos Melas and Germanos Karavangeli(s) connect us too, but on very unpleasent way.

i think one of the things you modern Greeks should do is opening some painful subjects from the last 200 years.

so long you (as a State of Greece) celebrate people who should be judged for crimes against the Humanity, it is hard to put on side some things.

edit:

since "we spread brotherhood and sisterhood..."

ja su ot Lerincko. znajs po nashe?

Serdarot ,we can't live in 1904!! this is at least pathetic!

Melas and Karavangelis are "national heroes" as the Komidajis that are national heroes for you (and the Bulgarians).

For me,this struggle ,was not a war...it was a chain of terror -Both sides by murders (esp of priests,teachers and wealthy people) tried to terrorize the locals in order to take them by their side.
It's something noone should be proud of..but this is how national histories work,producing heroes and pride.


ps-did you ask me if i am from Florina /Lerin? No i am not coast is not the coast of Prespa

[Coastal]

Yes as a very small child 40 years ago. One day would love the opportunity to go back, home.
The feast day for the Holy Virgin Mary , you have done your homework!
Were you born in Aegean Macedonia too?

Born and live here.
I really like Florina/lerin region-I also love the music and the women from there )