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![]() With the assumption of control in the Balkans by the Ottomans, the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia had its widespread power and influence marginalised, while the Patriarchate of Constantinople found itself in a rejuvenated position resulting from its new found friendship with the recently arrived Muslim overlords. With the renewal of the Archbishopric of Pech in Serbia in the year 1557, the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia began to lose even more ground and traditional territories, however, the Macedonian people stood firm behind their church and the main foe continued to be the Turk. Tensions between the Macedonian Christians and Ottoman Muslims increased significantly from the 1560's onwards, which saw places like Debar, Ohrid, Tetovo, Gostivar, Skopje, Prilep, Mariovo, etc explode in sporadic revolt and resistance against the foreign oppressor.
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The autonomous status of the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia was always a source of contention with the Patriarchate of Constantinople, and the latter's close relations with the Ottomans resulted in the rebellious Macedonians and neighbouring Slavic peoples looking towards Russia, Austria, and the Roman West for assistance. In the year 1589, the Archbishop of Ohrid, Gavril, wrote to Ferdinand the Archduke of Habsburg, and spoke of how "the Turk, who from day to day has pursued and blackmailed us and our ancestors ....in the whole of Macedonia, Greece and the nearby countries...then among our countries we have Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia....". Once again, the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia was engaged in activities in support of the local population. Due to certain efforts at collaboration against the Turks between the people of Macedonia and Albania, who were often unified under the 'guidance' of Catholic Roman clergy, a letter sent by an 'Albanian' to Pope Clement VIII in the year 1593 was imprinted with a title that read Stamp of the Kingdom of Macedonia and Albania. (Stojcev, Vance. "Military History of Macedonia". P.132)
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![]() In the year 1611 Epirus experienced a short-lived revolt led by Bishop Dionysius the Philosopher, which resulting in severe Ottoman reprisals. Peace was by no means assured as the Archbishopric of Ohrid continued to be a dominant and influental factor on the territory of Macedonia and the greater region. In a letter from Pope Urban VIII to the Archbishop of Ohrid Porphyrius Palaelogus, which was written in the year 1624, the following address is made: "To the respected brothers Porphyrius Paleologus, Patriarch of Justiniana Prima of Ohrid and the other subordinate archbishops, bishops of Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania and of the other side of Macedonia".
The fact that the local population cited in these regions speak a Slavonic language is further corroborated in the links below from the year 1630, which cite Slavonic as the dominant tongue of the region, it is the vulgar speech of the Macedonians. http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=387 http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=390 Another short-lived revolt against the Turks occured in the year 1639 which began in the village of Gaveto in Macedonia, but a few decades later stakes were raised as the activity of the Macedonian rebels coincided with an Austrian push southward against the common enemy. In the years prior to the Karposh Uprising, places like Bitola, Voden, Veles and Prilep had been rebelling against the Turks due to the regular injustices endured by the Christian populations. During the 1680's the Austrians did battle against the Turks and encouraged the local population under Ottoman rule to revolt. Their declarations were addressed to the Christians of "Albania, Servia, Mysia, Bulgaria, Silistria, Illyria, Macedonia and Rashka", and the Macedonians appear most emboldened by the events. Parts of the region errupted in rebellion, the most notable in Macedonia being led by Karposh the "King of Kumanovo", as another declaration by the Emperor Leopold of Austria spoke about "two Macedonians, Marko Kraida born in Kozhani and Dimitri Georgi Popovic, born in Macedonian Salonika, have told us that the Macedonian people, with respect for our most righteous task......" http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2008/...eopold-i-1690/ Unfortunately, the rebellion was short-lived as the Turks captured and executed Karposh while regaining control of the Macedonian regions.
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![]() During the early 1700's the Russians had their turn at war against the Turks, this time in Wallachia and Moldavia, where they enjoyed the support of the local Romanians. The Turks won the battle and as a form of punishment against the Romanians they instated the Phanariot Hospodars in Wallachia and Moldavia.
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In the year 1757 Montenegrin Metropolitan Vasilije Petrovic wrote a letter to the Russian Count Shuvalov expressing the feelings of the “Albanians, Macedonians, Bosnians, Serbs and Bulgarians”, who viewed Russia as the great Orthodox Slavic power and their saviour from the Turks. The Macedonians in the Russian regiments were still active in the mid 1760's as a number of them were sent back into Balkan lands to fight for the cause of freedom from the Turks. http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2008/...sia-1763-1765/ Quote:
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The Macedonians were quite brave and lively even after these events during the 1780's when they were met by Baron De Tott, who speaks of "twenty-two Macedonians, each with his musket on his shoulder, went thither, and met in a tavern, where they sang the victories of Alexander". However, from this period onwards assimilative propaganda in the Balkans and among the Balkan people spread, and it was chiefly orchestrated by the Greek-speaking Romans.
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This is a very good breakdown of this period. SoM you have a knack for creating these chronological threads. So here's something I hope you add into what I made bold in your post. ![]() ![]() A Macedonian killed Müezzinzade Ali and was Knighted (I don't know why I didn't highlight that part) by Don John (Don Juan) of Austria.
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![]() Excellent, I will update accordingly soon.
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![]() Amazing, I didn't know how much the Macedonians rebelled. From my reading:
1) The Archbishop of Ohrid had immense power in the region, organizing revolts across the entire Balkans. 2) It seems Patriarchate of Constantinople didn't care for the freedom of the people, they simply wanted to take power away from the Archbishop of Ohrid in order to achieve their own agenda. 3) The amount of Christian Albanians must have been immense, much more then is stated today. It seems they have fought with the Macedonians in most of the rebellions. My guess is the assimilation processes of Greece has reduced the amount of Christian Albanians significantly. 4) As with Macedonians helping the countries of Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria during the first Balkan War, Macedonians fought with other powers such as Venice, Austria and Russia in order to achieve freedom. |
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2. exactly, or to simplify it: they wanted the tax money and the power Ohrid had 3. many western writers were calling the Macedonians "Albanians", from various reasons. The "original" Albanians fought against the Turks (probably) as well, but if you compare several sources for later periods, it is clear that big percent of the population on the teritories of today Albania were Macedonians. 4. some did it for money. some with hope for Freedom and better life. look on today´s "peacekeepers" and mercenaries... @SoM and TM: nice ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Lesok is in the Tetovo region. My theory http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...p?t=948&page=5 is that a majority of these revolts centered in the Northernly areas of Macedonia.
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http://www.mn.mk/istorija/8644-Pismo...d-I-26-IV-1690 “...Соопштувам дека од двајца Македонци: Димитар Георги Попович од Солун и Марко Краида од Кожани добивме уверување дека македонскиот народ со почит спрема нашата праведност е целосно подготвен да ја признае нашата врховна власт. Ние сесрдно го земаме македонскиот народ целосно под наша заштита, и истиот не смее да биде нападнат од нашите трупи...“ ![]() ![]()
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