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Old 11-19-2008, 05:13 AM   #1
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Default Sclavonic is spoken in Macedon, Greek is a dead tongue, 1630!

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Source: “Epistolae Ho-Elianae:Familiar letters” by James Howell, 10th edition, 1737.

As you readers can see for yourself, James Howell was an eyewitness to the state of things in 1630, he correctly notes that Sclavonic(Slavic) is spoken in all of Macedon(Macedonia) and that the Greek is an almost dead language of his time, only spoken in a few places and very degenerate at that, it is as if the "nation of the Greeks" does not exist, they are nowhere to be found. They are more Barbarian then the Barbarians themselves.

So why do our modern Greeks claim that we Macedonians never existed and that Macedonia has a 4000 year old "Greek" history, you must be an imbecile to even consider such a Propagandistic view of history.

History has spoken.
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This is a wonderful piece of information.
Thank you Daskale.
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You kill'em man.

Auch

Few degenerated Greeks to Hellenize whole Greece?

Damn Philhellenes of Bavaria
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Thank you..... remember the Truth is out there.....

There will be more...... stay tuned!
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So , the Sclavonic has abolished her in Epirus and Macedon ???
So what he is saying is that GREEK was spoken in those places before that. More proof of a Slavic invasion/migration. I mean who else would change the toponyms of the area and litter them with slavic , then those good old Slavs. Good find Uchitel , there is more to come? i wonder if you find out what did happen to the native population, did these Slavs slaughter them, push them further south, let us know what happened.
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You must have missed the second part, he clearly tells you what happened to the "Greeks", they are a degenerate and more Barbaric people then the Barbarians themselves, so lets get down to business, if Macedonia and Epirus was Slavic speaking in 1630 how does Macedonia get to be Greek and at that for 4000 years...... give me your best shot Russospore.
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You must have missed the second part, he clearly tells you what happened to the "Greeks", they are a degenerate and more Barbaric people then the Barbarians themselves, so lets get down to business, if Macedonia and Epirus was Slavic speaking in 1630 how does Macedonia get to be Greek and at that for 4000 years...... give me your best shot Russospore.
Oh yeah i must have missed , its hard to read an article where F's are used instead of S's and there are words like 'hath'
what does ' all courage and bravery of mind to recover thier ancient freedom and honor' mean
You posted an article that says Greek was spoken in Macedonia and it still was spoken even before the pop exchange in the southern parts of Macedonia. Again good find.

'The Turkish has ousted her from most parts of Anatolia'
' The Arabian hath extinguished her from Syria, Egypt, Palestine'
Didnt your hero Alexander the Great pass through all these places?
Turkish and Arabian should be extinguishing Sclavonic , not Greek in those places !!!!

And dont call me a Russian seed again sir, there is nothing Russian or Slavic on me, i just happen to speak the language because knowledge is power hide it well. When i was a child my grandmother didnt tell me stories of Baba Yaga or Baba Roga to try and scare me. Thats Slavic culture , your culture not mine.
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So you read it, and you understood that in 1630 Greek was not spoken in Macedonia. The Macedonians spoke Slavic at the time, please tell me where your YaYa Athina fits into that picture...... are you a Prosfiga from Odessa?
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So , the Sclavonic has abolished her in Epirus and Macedon ???
So what he is saying is that GREEK was spoken in those places before that. More proof of a Slavic invasion/migration. I mean who else would change the toponyms of the area and litter them with slavic , then those good old Slavs. Good find Uchitel , there is more to come? i wonder if you find out what did happen to the native population, did these Slavs slaughter them, push them further south, let us know what happened.
I am not sure he is saying he has proof about the myth of Greeks in Macedonia other than what other dreamers had previously told him. But he certainly told it like it was in the 1600's.

I suspect if someone went there 600 years earlier, the same thing would have transpired. But we would not understand the English they would have used to describe it.

But don't worry ... look how fast people can become pure Greeks again. Where were your people from again?
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But don't worry ... look how fast people can become pure Greeks again. Where were your people from again?
I am wondering the same thing, Macedonians were Slavic-speakers in 1630, we today are also Slavic-speakers, then we have Sviolani here who is a Greek from Kastoria(or am I wrong), he just does not fit into the picture......
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