A prophecy of Alexander the Great, by Atanas Makedonets 1845!

[Daskalot]

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Here is the English translation:

A prophecy of Alexander the Great

Venice

A foreword for the translation

During the excavations in Babylon, inside a golden box, it was found an old manuscript from long past times. This manuscript was translated in all languages, since this is a prophecy of Alexander the Great, who predicted without all the great things that were done from that time until now, and also tells what else will be done.

Since this manuscript is a prophecy of Alexander the Great and speaks most highly about his beloved country Macedonia, I a servant of Jesus, being from the same country as this great man, decided, with the help of the Holly Spirit, to make a translation on the languages that are spoken in my homeland, and make it as understandable as possible. I pray to God so this book will bring mercy to all that have our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

I wrote this in 1845

Yeromonah Atanas Macedonian

The translation is taken from mk.wikibooks.org



This book is very important, does anyone have more information regarding it?

[Soldier of Macedon]

It is good that you brought up this topic again, in the past it has been discussed for a little while but eventually drops under the radar., it would be good to get to the bottom of this.

That text reads almost word for word with the way I speak my Bitola dialect.

Do we know where this Atanas was from and from where he was writing?

[makedonin]

Јас сум некако скептичен за ова.

Веќе со години тражам извор и каде би можел да ја најдам оваа книга, ама немам досега никаква информација каде се чува и слично.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Шо мислите, дека не е вистинско и не постои? Кои го покажа од првин?

[makedonin]

Originally Posted by soldier of macedon

Шо мислите, дека не е вистинско и не постои? Кои го покажа од првин?

Првио пат ко го виде овоа беше на еден македонски сајт каде што неговиот directory за слики му беше пристапен за секого. таму беа и сликите со Сонцето на Разловци Црквата.

Али немаше никакви референци, туку само слики.

[Daskalot]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Шо мислите, дека не е вистинско и не постои? Кои го покажа од првин?

Vaa kniga e vistinska, ima referenci za ova kniga vo knigata na Karakasidou ako ne gresham......

[Daskalot]

The text written with Greek letters:

ΠΡΕΣΚΑΖΑΝΙΕ ΝΑ ΓΚΟΛΕΜ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΤΡ

ΒΕΝΕΤΙΑ


ΠΡΟΛΟΓΚ ΝΑ ΤΕΡΤΖΙΟΥΜΑΝΟΤ

Να κοπανιετο οντ Βαδυλωνα νατρε δο εντνα κουτια ζλατενα σε ναιντε εντνο μνοουγκου βετδο ρακοπισμο οντ μνοουγκου κιιμετ. Οδα ρακοπισμο σε ναπραξ τερτζιουμε να σιτε γιαζιτσιτε, ζουτυω σετ πρεσκαζανιε να Γκολεμ Άλεξαντρ, σιτο πρεκαζιαγια μπες γκρεσικα κοουκου γκολεμι ραμποτι σε ναπραδια οντ τοα βρεμετο ντο ντενεσκα ι καζιβαατ ι σιτο κε σε σιτοριτ ουσιτσιε. Ι στσιομ οδα ρακοπισμο γιετ πρεσκαζανιε να Γκολεμ Άλεξαντρ ι ταινιτ μνοουγκου γκολεμ ζμπορ ζα νεγκογιατα μνοουγκου μιλοσλιδα πατριντα Μακεντονια, γιας σιλουγκατα να Χριστα οντ ιστατα ζεμια σο τοι γκολεμιοτ τσιοδεκ, σιτοριφ νιετ, σο πομοζι να σφετι Ντουχ, ντα γκο πραμ τερτζιουμε ι να γιαζιτσιτε σιτο σε ζμπορουδαατ να μοιατα πατριντα ι κοουκου μοζιαμ ντα γκο τσιναμ ζα ντα σε ραζμπερουδα δο νασιατα ζεμια. Σε μολιαμ να Γκοσποτ, οδα κνιγα ντα ντονεσι μπλαγοσλοδενιε να Γκοσποντιν Ίσουσα Χριστα να τιε σιτο γκο ιμαατ. Άμην.

Πισφαφ δο γκοντινατα 1845

Ίερομονεχ, ΑΤΑΝΑΣ ΜAKENΤΟΝΕΥΣ


The text transliterated into Macedonian Cyrillic:

ПРЕСКАЗАНИЕ НА ГОЛЕМ АЛЕКСАНДР

ВЕНЕТИА

ПРОЛОГ НА ТЕРЏУМАНОТ

На копанието во Вавилона, натре во една коутиа златена се наиде едно ветво ракописмо от мноугу кимет. Ова ракописмо се напраи терџуме на сите јазици зошчо сет претсказание на голем Александр, што прекажаја бес грешка коуку големи работи се направија од тоа време до денеска и кажваат и шчо ќе се сторит ушче.

И шчом ова ракописмо јет претсказание на Голем Александр и чинит мноугу голем збор за негојата мноугу милослива патрида Македониа, јас слуга на Христа од истата земја, со тој големиот човек, сторив ниет, со помож на сфети Дух, да го правам терџуме и на јазиците што се зборуваат на мојата патрида и коуку можам да го чинам за да се разберува во нашата земја. Се мољам на Госпот, ова книга да донеси благославење на Господин Исуса Христа на тие што го имаат. Амин.

Писфаф во годината 1845

Јеромонах АТАНАС МАКЕДОНЕЦ


The text translated into English:

A prophecy of Alexander the Great

Venice

A foreword for the translation

During the excavations in Babylon, inside a golden box, it was found an old manuscript from long past times. This manuscript was translated in all languages, since this is a prophecy of Alexander the Great, who predicted without all the great things that were done from that time until now, and also tells what else will be done.

Since this manuscript is a prophecy of Alexander the Great and speaks most highly about his beloved country Macedonia, I a servant of Jesus, being from the same country as this great man, decided, with the help of the Holly Spirit, to make a translation on the languages that are spoken in my homeland, and make it as understandable as possible. I pray to God so this book will bring mercy to all that have our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

I wrote this in 1845

Yeromonah Atanas Macedonian

Here is the text in transcribed form, with Greek letters and Macedonian Cyrillic, also a translation into English.

[Daskalot]

Here is more from the Greek newspaper Iospress:

In Greek:

Παρόμοια επιχειρηματολογία συναντάμε και σε έντυπη διακήρυξη του Ελληνομακεδονικού Συλλόγου της Αθήνας το 1905, γραμμένη στα σλαβομακεδονικά με ελληνικούς χαρακτήρες και διακοσμημένη στο εξώφυλλό της με νόμισμα του διάσημου στρατηλάτη. Το αποκορύφωμα της προπαγανδιστικής επιστράτευσης του "Γκόλεμ Αλεξάντρ" θα έρθει ωστόσο δυό χρόνια αργότερα, από τους μακεδονομάχους της Οργανώσεως Θεσσαλονίκης. "Θυμάμαι ότι είχα γράψει κάτι `Προφητείες του Μεγάλου Αλεξάνδρου' με εξηγήσεις του 'ιερομόναχου Αθανασίου', οι οποίες εβοηθούσαν κάθε έξυπνον άνθρωπο να καταλάβη ότι η Μακεδονία δεν ήταν δυνατόν να ελευθερωθή παρά από την Ελλάδα", διαβάζουμε στα Απομνημονεύματα του επικεφαλής της, Αθανασίου Σουλιώτη-Νικολαϊδη ("Ο Μακεδονικός Αγών", Θεσ/νίκη 1994, σ.44). "Μεταφρασμένες στα μακεδονοσλαυϊκά, τις 'Προφητείες του Μ. Αλεξάνδρου' τις εμοιράζαμε αραιά και μυστικά στους χωρικούς. Σταχωμένη με πετσί μια από τις 'Προφητείες του Μ. Αλεξάνδρου' μου την έφερε κατά το 1911 στην Πόλη ένας παπάς των Δέρκων, σαν κάτι σπάνιο και μυστηριώδες". Το τέχνασμα είχε πετύχει.

Google translated into English:

Similar arguments can also be found in the printed proclamation Ellinomakedonikou Association of Athens in 1905, written in Macedonian with Greek characters and decorated the cover with the currency of the famous army. The completion of the recruitment propaganda "Golemis Alexander will come two years later, however, the Macedonian Organization of Thessaloniki. "I remember that I had written something` Prophecies of Alexander the Great, with explanation of the 'monk Athanasius' which evoithousan any intelligent man to understand that Macedonia could not be released rather than Greece, we read the memoirs of the leader, Athanasius Souliotis-Nikolaidi ( "The Macedonian Struggle, Thessaloniki 1994, p.44). "Localized makedonoslafika in the 'Prophecies of Alexander' the emoirazame sparse and secrets to the peasants. Stachomeni skin with one of the 'Prophecies of Alexander' I brought in 1911 by a priest in the town of Derkon as curiosity and mysterious. " The ruse was successful.

Source:

http://www.iospress.gr/ios1997/ios19970112a.htm

As you can read of the above text not only is this book a reality and the Greeks knew about it, they also knew that the MAcedonians spoke Macedonian as of the "proclamation Ellinomakedonikou Association of Athens in 1905" which is this book found in this thread; To our Brothers the Macedonians, 1905!

And a picture of it:


Is there more information out there?

[Daskalot]

And here is some more:

1. «Ιεροµονάχου Αθανασίου Μακεδόνος» (Α.Σ.Ν.), Προφητείαι του Μεγάλου Αλεξάνδρου - Πρεσκαζάνιε να Γκόλεµ Αλεξάντρ, δίγλωσσο χειρόγραφο, 32 φ., και έκδοση ελληνικού κειµένου, 18 σ., φ/τ

Google translated into English:

1. «Monk Athanasios Macedonians» (A.S.N.) Profiteiai of Alexander the Great - Alexander Preskazanie to Golemis, bilingual manuscript, 32 f., and English text edition, p. 18, f / r

Source:

http://www.imxa.gr/collections/code/emuseum.asp?style=Browse&currentrecord=1&page=collections&newvalues=1&newpage=MacedonialCatalog

So the Greeks are quite aware of this book, it is real.

[Daskalot]

Here is yet another reference to the book:

β) —, Πρεσκαζάνιε να Γκόλεμ Αλεξαντρ, Βενετία (το προηγούμενο φυλλάδιο, μεταφρασμένο στα σλαβομακεδόνικα)
γ) Σουλιώτης, Αθανάσιος, Η Μεγάλη Ιδέα. [Αθήνα], 1908 (18 αντίτυπα).

Google translated into English:

b) - Preskazanie to Aleksandr Golemis, Venice (in the previous booklet, translated in slavomakedonika)
c) Souliotis, Athanasios, Great Idea. [Athens], 1908 (18 copies).

Source:

http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/index.php/archives/athanasios-souliotis-series-v