Racism from Greece and Greeks

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by fatso

Macedonians have every right to criticize Greece..you on the other hand...

Peter, you are the last person to be telling Onur what he should posting here .. go drink some Greek Holy Water - Canadian Club

YouTube - Jim Karygiannis, Liberal MP claims he's Macedonian LOL!

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Makedonska_Kafana

Peter, you are the last person to be telling Onur what he should posting here .. go drink some Greek Holy Water - Canadian Club

YouTube - Jim Karygiannis, Liberal MP claims he's Macedonian LOL!

Alex, you of all people know I'm not a fan of MP Karriagiannis.
Does it disappoint you to know, I voted for Lui Temelkovsi ?
Yes, I still have a residence in Markham and have Canadian passport.
Most recently I was escorted out of a Chicago Greek nite club due to my political views on Macedonia.

When ever you can take that skirt off and put on a pair of pants ...maybe you will have enough balls to meet me for a drink.:scared

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by fatso

Alex, you of all people know I'm not a fan of MP Karriagiannis.
Does it disappoint you to know, I voted for Lui Temelkovsi ?
Yes, I still have a residence in Markham and have Canadian passport.
Most recently I was escorted out (rear door) of a Chicago Greek nite club due to my political views on Macedonia.

Are you in Toronto now?

[Onur]

Videos and pictures from the latest fascist pogrom against migrants in Athens;

POGROM IN THE CENTRE OF ATHENS SINCE THE 10TH OF MAY!!!!!!
Hassan, a 9 year old from Afghanistan;

My mummy, my small brother and me were going home this afternoon. We had to cross Omonia square. I am very afraid. We had to run a lot because we were chased in Omonia. All my friends were chased and beaten – also their mums and dads. One of my friends was brought to hospital. Why was this happening? I am in my room now, but I am very afraid!

Hassan is since 6 months in Greece. The rest of his family is in Germany. Only a few months ago his mummy was beaten up by a Greek old men in Victoria square. They spend all the time in their room, because they are afraid to go out.


Ahmad, 12 years old from Afghanistan:

Yesterday some Greeks came to Victoria square. They beat all people there. They also beat me on my head!

In the early morning hours of the 10th May a theft ended up in the tragic murder of a come-to-be father in the centre of Athens. During the following hours of the day, the media started reporting about “three dark skinned suspects”, hence, initiating a propaganda which ended up in a manhunt by fascists of the extreme right group “golden dawn” on all migrants in the centre of the city. Around 16 o’clock 100 “inhabitants of the neighbourhood”, as the media said, protested against the violent death of the “Greek citizen”. Only some hours later central streets were closed by the police, the neighbourhood was patrolled by armed officers, while a group of 100 fascists attacked migrants and refugees at a central square, beating up many of them. A young men from Bangladesh was so violently stabbed 10 times that he died on the way to the hospital.

The fascists split into smaller groups and while some of them threw stones on squatted houses of the areas, others invaded private households of migrants leaving behind them destruction and blood. The public discourse is reigned again by the construction of fear and racist propaganda. During the whole night inhabitants of different neighbourhoods of Athens reported single attacks of fascists on bypassing migrants. At the 11th of May Neonazis threw a molotov cocktail into the house of a Pakistani national in the region of Reddi. In two cases labourers interfered and protected their migrant colleagues from the violent outbursts of fascists.

The attacks continued also Wednesday 11th and at the 12th with further “demonstrations” – meaning a huge and enduring POGROM against migrants.

Fascist groups attacked Wednesday and Thursday again the two anarchist squats of the area, this time together with the police, and after splitting into smaller groups of up to 10 chased immigrants in the further area…..

At the 12th and during the beginning of the demonstration against the murderous police brutality of the 11th against demonstrators of the general strike in another part of the cities’ centre around 500-1.000 fascists demonstrated towards Omonia square and invaded a soup kitchen of the municipality of Athens, where poor people – mostly migrants – try survive from hunger, beating up blindly refugees and migrants and stabbing them with knives and hitting them with bottles!!!!! After returning back to the area of Victoria Square and St. Panteleimon / Attiki they attacked again the anarchist squats while continuing their POGROM against migrants in the whole area in the most violent way. Rumours talked about more migrant deaths. The hospitals talked about at least 25 migrants with severe injuries 12 of which were stabbed with knives one was shot!!!

The area around Omonia, St. Panteleimon, Victoria Square and Attiki has become a field of war with extreme right wing groups walking around with Greek flags shouting fascist slogans against migrants. Consciously and on purpose the cold-blooded Neonazis kill and destroy in the whole neighbourhood without being severely disturbed by the high numbers of police officers in the area. Migrants report of repeated violent and cruel attacks: beating with clubs on the head, stabbing with knives. A number of migrant shops were destroyed also and fascist were chasing and beating even small children of 6-10 years, beating also them on all parts of their bodies!!!!!

Attiki Square and St. Panteleimon Square that had been in the past central places of agglomeration were already occupied by fascist groups and marked with graffities of Greek flags. Now Victoria Square also seems like a deserted empty hole. The migrants who know have disappeared and hide inside their homes. Fear is ruling the area that is covered by silence. The place of the death of the 44 old man has become a place of pilgramage and worship for the extreme right wing. The slogan on the mourning table says: ‘Here three migrants stabbed a Greek family man to death!’ The demonstrators are shouting: ‘Greece to the Greek Christians’, ‘Foreigners, out of Greece’ and threaten everybody who is renting flats to migrants by saying: ‘violence has to be answered with violence!’. Their memorial for the dead is accompanied by the Greek anthem…

The murder of the 44 old Greek in the early morning hours of the 10th is being misused as the symbol for the new crusade of the Neonazis in the area. Instead of mourning the loss with respect, the ‘grieving’ fascists are violating and exploiting the tragic death for their own purposes. Though the media report also about the pogrom and the extreme right wing violence in the area, they highlight the death of the Greek citizen and the ‘increased criminality and violence’ in the cities centre and the ‘ghettoisation’ due to immigrants – but the victims of the Neonazis were referred to until the 13th only in one sentence as collateral damage. Only since the further brutalisation and intensification of the pogrom at the 12th newspapers are titling also about the right wing violence.

The municipality of Athens plans to encounter ‘the problem’ by police raids against ‘illegal’ migrants, shops, street vending and brothels while increasing their repressive measures, they plan to ‘clean’ the area. The centre of Athens is an area to be gentrified and ‘up-graded’, thus, the pogrom of the Neonazis is adding its part on the dirty ‘job to be done’ – no matter what the consequences.

May 14, 2011

http://athens.indymedia.org/front.ph...cle_id=1290570

Greek fascists trying to break down the houses where migrants lives;

YouTube - NewsIt.gr: Î*ολεμική σÏ�Ï�Ï�αξη στο κÎ*ντÏ�ο της Αθήνας

Greek fascists chasing migrants in the streets with baseball bats, knives and most horribly, one of them chasing migrants with a huge chainsaw!!!;

YouTube - ΑΚΡΟΔΕΞΙΟΙ ΣΤΑΜΑΤΗΣΑ� ΛΕΩΦΟΡΕΙΟ

[fatso]

Onur...post this on Novinite.com a Bulgarain Forum.
See what your Bulgarian neighbours are saying about you.

As far as the Greeks are concerned ..they are racists.

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Makedonska_Kafana

Are you in Toronto now?

Yes, I am. But extremely busy. Will be back mid June for 2 weeks. Send me a private message and we could meet.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by fatso

Yes, I am. But extremely busy. Will be back mid June for 2 weeks. Send me a private message and we could meet.

WTF, you're not in Washington DC. in June?

[Onur]

Originally Posted by fatso

Onur...post this on Novinite.com a Bulgarain Forum. See what your Bulgarian neighbours are saying about you.

Bulgarian forum? oh no thanks. I really don't care what Bulgarians think about Turks or Greeks. Besides that, not only me, practically no one in Turkey cares about what Bulgarians says about anything. I may sound arrogant but thats the truth!

As far as the Greeks are concerned ..they are racists

Tell us something we don't know already! But honestly, i wouldn't think that you Greeks could chase people in the streets with chainsaws!!! Congrats, you really reached a new level in racism!!! I bet even Serbians admires you right now and Bulgarian fascists probably thinking about trying chainsaws against gypsies. So, you Hellenes still set the standards and become an example to the rest of the world since antiquity

[Onur]

Here is an example of what i am talking about. Mango just posted a documentary about the Italian, German invasion of Greece in WW-2 and the Greek historian says that about ~500.000 people died in Greece because of planned starvation policy of occupying forces. Watch from 13:20min.;

Originally Posted by mango

YouTube - Nazi Collaborators 10 - The Greek Collaborator (Part 1)

Now, is there anyone who loudly speaks about this in Greece??? About the ~500.000 people died because of famine? No, but lets look what they remembered a week ago;

Mavro Aloni - Greece's Batak


The monument at Mavro Aloni in memory of 400 local residents, slaughtered by Ottoman forces in 1821

For most Bulgarians northern Greece equals the beautiful beaches of Chalkidiki and the mystery of Mount Athos' monasteries, but very few know about Mavro Aloni (Black Harvest) – a place still bearing the scars of the country's fight for independence from the Ottoman Empire.

Mavro Aloni is Greece's Batak. Today, the custom of "Mavro Aloni" keeps the memory of the fight and the massacres alive.

"Mavro Aloni" is the place where 400 locals were massacred by Ottoman forces on the order of Bey Sindik Giousouf. People from Ierissos tell the story of a cunning promise for general pardon which was made to those who would accept to surrender. 400 believed. Armed Ottomans forced them to dance in a large circle and after each full turn one dancer was slayed with swords.

In their honor, every year on Tuesday after Easter, rain or shine, hundreds of local people and visitors hold a mass at Mavro Aloni. They also do a reenactment of the dance called barrier (kangeleftos), a slow, unrehearsed dance (argosyrto) imitating the hesitant steps of those sentenced to death, and sing a commemorative chant.




The dance - second person from the left is the Deputy Regional Governor, Giannis Giorgos.

When the song nears its end, the first two from the circle join their hands and stretch their arms to replicate the stretched Turkish swords. All other participants pass under this arch still dancing, chanting, with women and men taking turns, while the swords fall on their heads.


End of the dance.

One of the most meaningful and beautiful songs of famous Greek performer, Nana Mouskouri, is dedicated to the massacre – titled Mavro Aloni and written by Nikos Gkatsos.

The Mayor of Aristotle, Christos Pahtas, the Deputy Regional Governor, Giannis Giorgos, and many other officials were present at the 2011 ceremony, held on April 26.



"Remember Greeks, the freedom of classical Greece, the Battles of Marathon and Thermopylae, let us fight for those who died for our freedom. Let us fight for the shadows of Epaminondas and Thrasyboulos, .. of Harmodius and Aristogeiton... for Miltiades, Themistocles, Leonidas who killed a large number of the Barbarian Persians before they died." Alexandros Ypsilantis, leader of the Filiki Eteria, a secret organization that coordinated the beginning of the Greek War of Independence against the Ottoman Empire.

May 15, 2011

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=128260

Instead of remembering their ~500.000 citizens who starved to death 60 years ago, they erect a monument, gather around it with a brass band, drink wine, dance for what??? Supposedly Turkish soldiers forcibly made 400 Greeks to dance horo and killed them one by one while they were dancing!!! and they do a recreation of it by dancing hand to hand after getting a bit dizzy with the wine.



These are the myths i am talking about and what Greeks does here is just a clownery at it`s best. I am sure that 500.000 Greeks who died by starving are turning in their graves cuz today`s Greeks are eating, drinking and dancing for the myths instead of remembering them and instead of being grateful of having a food today and pray in the church for that in thankfulness.

[lavce pelagonski]

I'll put this here because this is clearly a racist Greek who wrote this article for Balkan insight.

Agropolis project presented at FYROM`s-Greek Business forum


Balkan Business News Correspondent - 19.05.2011

A 40-strong business delegation of the regional chambers of commerce based in Skopje, Prilep and Bitola has met with businessmen from the Greek region of Imathia, FYRO Macedonia's Economic Chamber says. Attended by representatives of FYR Macedonian and Greek companies, the business forum in Veria (Greece) prompted an exceptional interest in the Greek business sector.



The event was also attended by FYRO Macedonian general consul to Thessaloniki, Tomislav Dimitrovski and trade advisor at the Greek Liaison Office to FYRO Macedonia, Mezeridu Fauva.



The Agropolis project - an initiative for boosting the cooperation between companies from Western Balkan countries in the field of agronomy - was presented before businessmen. The goal of the project is to advance and unite the regional agricultural offer and improve export opportunities.



The initiative is to pave the way for regional countries to promote their agricultural products in Southeastern Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

"Companies from the both sides of the border focus only on the economic interest. Solely an intensive business cooperation can prompt progress in the region to exit the crisis," said Blagoj Stojcev - chairman of the Bitola-based Regional Chamber - who led the FYRO Macedonian business delegation.



Total trade exchange between FYRO Macedonia and Greece in 2010 was $693,7 million. Greece last year was FYRO Macedonia's second trade partner seen globally.