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Old 01-14-2022, 11:57 PM   #1
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Default A renewed push for Australia to become a republic

I don't know what has brought it on, but there seems to be a renewed push for this place to become a republic. Granted this is an op ed piece by Turnbull, he goes over the options being considered:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/i...13-p59o4w.html

The questions no one in the lamestream media are asking are:

- why the renewed push for a republic now?
- will all legal (and royal) ties be cut with the UK should a republic be declared?
- in the event of all ties being cut with the UK, what happens to the whole country being "vested in the crown"?
- will any real reforms be made to governance in this country should a republic be declared or is this a purely ceremonial in intent?
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Old 01-18-2022, 02:27 AM   #2
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The declaration of a republic will be the result of a natural political progression in Australia: one of the contributing factors to federation was to curb the republican movements in the-then various colonies
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The problem as I see it is that this seems to be coming from the closet commies, it reeks of tokenism and warm fuzzy nothings.
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Republican ideals have been espoused in Australia since at least the 1850s, most notably with the Eureka Rising of 1854: it has a long history in the country. The core idea has always been that the destiny of Australia be in the hands of those who live there, and not in the hands of a foreign monarchy
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Republican ideals have been espoused in Australia since at least the 1850s, most notably with the Eureka Rising of 1854: it has a long history in the country. The core idea has always been that the destiny of Australia be in the hands of those who live there, and not in the hands of a foreign monarchy
Historically yes, but this latest push isn't in that spirit. It has the stench of the PC brigade that have become experts in virtue signalling and tokenism.
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I am unsure who you are referring to. To the best of my knowledge, there has not been any real public push for a republic since the failed 1999 referendum. Kevin Rudd, as a last ditch effort to attract votes, promised to support a republic as part of Labor's platform if re-elected, but that was almost a decade ago
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/c...14-p59ob6.html

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...13-p59o33.html

https://www.theage.com.au/national/k...13-p59o22.html

https://www.theage.com.au/national/a...12-p59npq.html
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All those articles link back to the Australian Republican Movement (ARM), an NGA who have been advocating for a republic for decades now. Some in the republican movement regard the ARM as opportunists and traitors
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All those articles link back to the Australian Republican Movement (ARM), an NGA who have been advocating for a republic for decades now. Some in the republican movement regard the ARM as opportunists and traitors
Yet they're getting a lot of airtime on the MSM, which means someone within the power structure wants it to happen and if so, it will be to further entrench the power of the criminals that turned this place into a quasi-Stalinist state and to the detriment of the people of this country.
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Yet they're getting a lot of airtime on the MSM, which means someone within the power structure wants it to happen and if so, it will be to further entrench the power of the criminals that turned this place into a quasi-Stalinist state and to the detriment of the people of this country.
I do not see how that is any different to the current system, which subordinates Australia to the House of Windsor
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