Politics and elections in France

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Brian

Hollande is also a Jew........

Not that it should matter, but what evidence is there for Hollande having a Jewish origin? I don't know much about the case but it seems like he comes from a Catholic family.

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

You've always been sympathetic to those racist maggots because you think just like they do. Holding your tongue on forums like this doesn't make you any different to them.

SOM, I am sympathtic to those that love the country and are willing to go the extra mile for it. These "thugs" at the moment are protecting the elderly in crime ridden areas such as Aghio Panteleimona, Arxanon and other areas of Athens that were once prosperous. These "thugs" escort the elderly from the banks to their homes in order to collect their social security and not get robbed by the time they set foot on the street. They are out there filling in the vacuum where the Greek state have left them abandoned fending for themselves while the rich live undisturbed through their crooked ways. Chrysi Avgi will go after the corrupt politicians, prosecute, and jail them for treason. I believe it when they say that. Thats why our political spectrum are shaking right now if they gain power. How often is it that our political parties agree on anything ? Yet in one day all the poltical parties from ND, PASOK, KKE, SYRIZA and everyone united against Chrysi Avgi for the verbal "attack" on a PASOK minister in marousi. Trying to protect a future cultural genocide from happening is not racist. We cant help the refugees that come here and they have to undertand that.

Onur, GD may not be as "finessed" as France's Le Pen's party but they both share the same ideas along with every other far right party in Europe.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Voltron

SOM, I am sympathtic to those that love the country and are willing to go the extra mile for it.

At any cost, I bet. Does going the extra mile include terrorising indigenous minorities (putting aside those foreign migrants you hate so much) like the Macedonians?

Chrysi Avgi will go after the corrupt politicians, prosecute, and jail them for treason. I believe it when they say that.

Those maggots wait on the outskirts of villages and on border crossings to intimidate Macedonians, imagine if they were in government! Get out of the stone age, Voltron, and stop acting like a fascist clown. There is a way to be patriotic without being a racist arsehole. Sometimes you show glimpses of being a normal person, try and build on it.

[Voltron]

Hey I dont agree with everything they do and I dont agree with how they treat other ethnic people that have lived in Greece for ages. However, they are the only ones that are willing to prosecute these treasonous bastards we have right now and they are the only ones that will stop the flow of foreign elements into my country. We have been governed for over the past 40 years by these democratic parties that have caused more damage from their corrupt and crooked ways. Its not like I have a lot of options here.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Its not like I have a lot of options here.

Nor does Macedonia. That doesn't mean I would support a new political party that wants to lynch minorities in the country, just because they claim to be 'patriotic'.

[Voltron]

Yeah but you would if they were willing to lynch your politicians for supporting hostile elements in government. Of if they were willing to void the name negotiations or the Ohrid agreement for that matter. Nobody has ever been lynched, just harassed and intimidated and with the exception of Macedonians I really dont have a problem with it. I may feel sorry for some Pakistani but thats about as far as it goes for me. They really have to find somewhere else to go to.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Not that it should matter, but what evidence is there for Hollande having a Jewish origin? I don't know much about the case but it seems like he comes from a Catholic family.

I heard it from someone. After some checking I stand corrected. Goes to show the need to check everything.

He's a 'lefty' anyway.

France is approaching the 'point of no return' - it's not as alarming as it sounds as it is a bit of a way to go but measures need to be considered while there is time and not when it becomes a burning issue.

[makedonche]

Voltron

[quote][Chrysi Avgi will go after the corrupt politicians, prosecute, and jail them for treason. I believe it when they say that. Thats why our political spectrum are shaking right now if they gain power. /QUOTE]

I think this may have an element of naeivity about it. Remember the " beware Greeks bearing gifts" statement? kinda reminds me of this!

[Brian]

[quote=makedonche;126184]Voltron

I think this may have an element of naeivity about it. Remember the " beware Greeks bearing gifts" statement? kinda reminds me of this!

So true makedonce, is there 1 Greek who isn't corrupt?

[Voltron]

[quote=Brian;126197]

Originally Posted by makedonche

Voltron

So true makedonce, is there 1 Greek who isn't corrupt?

There are plenty, If I had the money and power I know I wouldnt abuse it at the expense of my country. Id give the shirt off my back if I could.

Actions speak louder than words. You may think they have ulterior motives, but I cant help but feel that they really do care about the country.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...83O0XV20120425

PASTA AT THE DOORSTEP

In working class neighbourhoods of Athens, Golden Dawn has been quietly building itself up as a friendly, reliable face among hard-hit Greeks that the state has failed to help.

For over a year, party members have given needy families bags of rice and pasta, olive oil and clothes in cartons labelled: "I vote for Golden Dawn to clean up the place" and "For Athens to become Greek again".

Former Socialist voter Katerina Karousi, a 76-year old cancer patient, broke down in sobs when party members showed up at her doorstep with large bags of food on Friday morning.

"I hear they are doing nice things for people. Why not vote for them?" said her husband, 79-year old Andreas Karoussis.

On their way out, a Golden Dawn member bade the couple farewell with: "Call us if you need anything - I mean anything."

At another stop, 41-year-old Constantina Tassiou looked bewildered and overwhelmed as Golden Dawn members piled clothes and supermarket bags at her doorstep.

"It's the first time someone has brought us clothes and food. Only the church has helped us so far," said Tassiou, an epilepsy sufferer whose family lives on her welfare benefits. "I'll vote for Golden Dawn, maybe it's time for something new."

Elsewhere, Golden Dawn escorts the elderly who are wary of immigrants to bank ATMs, said spokesman Elias Panagiotaros.

The group has little sympathy for the political class. Politicians behind Greece's crisis must be hauled before a special court, jailed and their property seized, the group says, while any Greek refusing to join the conscript army will be stripped of their citizenship and exiled.

^ The highlighted part in bold is what means the most to me. They are the only party openly stating this. I will vote for any party that can make that happen. These bastards must serve time and their possession taken away from them and their families. That and immigration of course.