Bulgarian nation disappears

[Onur]

Originally Posted by Frank

But Bulgaria is a economically stable nation so deserving of being in the EU club.

I couldn't smell from your post but this should be a sarcasm, right? since Bulgaria has probably the most corrupted economy in Europe where you can buy everything with bribing.

[Frank]

sarcasim it sure is buddy

[Makedonetz]

They are delusional....i was visiting my striko and my Baba since she is not doing well she is 100 yrs old....my uncles neighbors were bulgarian and they were sitting on the front porch dancing to Macedonian music thinking they were comical.....we laughed then i yelled why dont you guys put on some Azis seeing hes your national icon they swore at me in Macedonian we laughed agian very comical seeing they have no fucking idea who they really are. :rmacedonia

[ArMakedon]

Originally Posted by pelister

i hope they disappear, and give us back our land.

Ќе се изначекаме ако сами не си го земиме никој не ни дава гратис.

[Prolet]

ArMakedon, Whats your opinion on Bulgarian Imigration Minister Bozidar Dimitrov saying that the Skopje 2014 project is full of Bulgarian Artifacts?

[ArMakedon]

Originally Posted by Prolet

ArMakedon, Whats your opinion on Bulgarian Imigration Minister Bozidar Dimitrov saying that the Skopje 2014 project is full of Bulgarian Artifacts?

Nothing tartaric. As i know bulgarians are of tartaric origine.

[Onur]

I just read an interesting article about Bulgaria.

As you know, all Bulgarian political parties are blindly supporting the EU, even the far rightist ones, who frequently attacks the Turks in Bulgaria. So, while all Bulgarian politicians and probably most of the Bulgarian people are willingly wanna sell out their nation and identity to the eurocrats of Brussels, guess who tries to defend Bulgarian nation and their national vision; The leader of ethnic Turkish party in Bulgaria!!!;

Ethnic Turkish Leader: Bulgaria Total EU Outcast, Lacks National Vision

Bulgaria has no strategic vision whatsoever for its development within the realities of the EU, according to Ahmed Dogan, leader of the Bulgarian ethnic Turkish party DPS.



According to Dogan, who spoke Friday at a forum in Sofia organized by the Stetan Stambolov Leadership Institute, Bulgaria is about to become part of a "team C" of EU member states, i.e. the ones that are technically EU outcasts.

Five years after its EU accession Bulgaria has no strategic EU vision, neither does it have any clear national priorities, the Bulgarian ethnic Turkish leader believes, as cited by Darik Radio

He thinks that the European Union is facing a "crisis of tolerance" as far as intra-EU balancing between the various member states is concerned, and that through the apportioning of the EU budget, the European Commission is about to divide the EU into an "A team and a B team", and even a "C team" where Bulgaria will be placed.

"We have been in the EU for 5 years. Before that, we found excuses that we want to join NATO first, and then the EU. Even today, everything that we associate with EU membership boils down to some kinds of funding and subsidies, or money for our infrastructure. We have no strategic vision. Bulgaria is a part of a bigger entity, and we need a thoroughly different methodology for drafting a new vision for our country," Dogan declared.

"When the nation and the state have no defined priorities about the development of the country, there is no way of talking about priorities in the development of science. The priorities of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences must be a reflection of the national development priorities – both in the economic and in the spiritual realm. And who knows Bulgaria's priorities? Can anybody tell me what they are, especially in terms of the economy in the EU context?" Dogan asked rhetorically.

“The Bulgarian society has not experienced its necessary spiritual catharsis yet. We are not aware of who we are and what we want. We want to be Europeans a priori,” he said.

“Unfortunately, in the past 20 years, the Bulgarian intellectual elite shut itself off, and encapsulated itself. It was just an observer of the process of creation and establishment of leaders through the mass media. This role of the observer has a very high price to be paid. The intellectual elite needs to be very active, and, in the very least, it needs to define Bulgaria's place in the European cultural, economic, multicultural, and administrative space. Europe's big aim is to create a united entity but at the moment this is just a project because it is neither united, nor an entity. The Bulgarian intellectual elite needs to have reserve options for all possible models of development of the country,” Dogan elaborated.

July 8, 2011, Friday

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=130049

Btw, Ahmed Dogan`s party is Bulgaria`s 3rd biggest party with ~15% support in latest elections.

[Risto the Great]

I keep saying Macedonia should look at Bulgaria as an example of the questionable benefits of EU entry. Based on the above, Macedonia should also look at Bulgaria as an excellent example of a State devoid of vision and purpose. I see no difference in Macedonia's outlook whatsoever.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Some drastic statistics. The message of the EUrophile author is interesting. Make retirees work a few more years and keep the population low by placing emphasis on "reproductive" rights. In other words, ignore the root cause of decline such as emigration and low birth rates, don't bother sustaining your population, eventually become a wasteland to serve as an ideal location for some future EU project and lose your cultural essence as a nation in the process. Meanwhile, population numbers in western EU countries like Germany and France have trended slightly upward during the same period. Even more so on the eastern front of the Balkans in Turkey.

https://emerging-europe.com/news/shrinking-bulgaria/

A new census has revealed the full scale of Bulgaria’s population decline. Bulgaria has known for some time that it has one of the most rapidly shrinking populations in the world.......most pessimistic estimates by Bulgaria’s authorities had placed the country’s population at around 6.9 million people. The results instead suggest that the real figure is closer to 6.5 million, which represents a fall of almost 11.5 per cent since the last census in 2011: some 844,000 people.

Since the late 1980s, when Bulgaria’s population peaked at just under nine million, the country has lost more than a quarter of its people.....Just 14 per cent of Bulgarians are aged under 17, while almost a quarter of the population is over 65. It could well be time then to make the most of the economic potential of older people – the so-called silver economy.......Even relatively poor countries such as Bulgaria and neighbouring Romania are currently placing more demands on the renewable resources of their land than it can provide, and lower populations reduce that demand, as well as relieving pressure on biodiversity.

“Fiscal challenges presented by ageing populations can be solved by pension reform, increasing the productivity of older workers, later retirement, investment in preventative health to reduce associated health care costs, and, where appropriate, equitable increases in tax,” Alistair Currie, head of campaigns and communications at Population Matters, told Emerging Europe late last year after the release of a report, Welcome to Gilead, which raises serious concerns about the abuse of reproductive rights by nationalistic governments, echoing the pronatal dystopia of Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale.

The report details how right-wing, populist and/or nationalist administrations are stigmatising women who choose to have smaller families as unpatriotic and describes how policies intended to limit women’s reproductive choices are linked to population goals. “One thing that really came out strongly in our research is the economic value of older people. That means things like potentially increasing retirement age – low across much of Central and Eastern Europe. To do that, you do need healthy populations, however, which requires investment in preventative health care,” adds Currie.

“Pronatal policies, meanwhile, are not productive. They’re often costly, in the short term they increase the number of dependent children, and in the longer term, they drive up consumption and resource use.” Bulgaria has so far resisted the temptation to promote pronatalism, often linked to a restrictive, patriarchal “pro-family” agenda and the promotion of ethnic nationalism, as a solution to its demographic issues. It would do well to continue to do so, instead finding a way to promote policies that will keep its ageing population active for longer.

[kompir]

They reap what they've sown...