The Shame of Modern Greece by Andrew Apostolou

[El Bre]

If you own a BlackBerry, you probably dont know it, but it was a Greek that founded that technology. This is just one example. In any scientific research or technology you will find Greeks there. Rarely will you find a Turk.

Are you referring to Mike Lazaridis? Isn't he originally from Istanbul?

[George S.]

I bet you if he is greek he stole the technology.Greeks are thieves & liars.
If he really founded the blackberry technology he must be rolling in money as virtually most businesses use a blackberry.

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by El Bre

Are you referring to Mike Lazaridis? Isn't he originally from Istanbul?

Affirmative, he was born there. Family emigrated to Canada.

[George S.]

Voltron i'm not sure whether it's the same guy but there is a huge bunch of hate blogs regarding him.

[Onur]

Originally Posted by El Bre

Are you referring to Mike Lazaridis? Isn't he originally from Istanbul?

Thanks El Bre. Apparently he is, which confirms what i wrote above here;

Originally Posted by Onur

Most of the first generation of Greek immigrants in EU and USA was actually from Turkey but not from Greece. As far as i heard, later immigrants from Greece are usually doing shitty jobs in western world and they are poor unlike the first generations.

Voltron denies this as he blindly refuses whatever i wrote here but it`s so obvious and well-known that Greeks from Turkey was much more rich, well-educated and more intelligent than the ones Greece. It`s no surprise that they have higher status than later immigrants from Greece. Because most of their grandparents had big properties in most luxurious spots in Istanbul. They sold these and immigrated to US after 1920s. For example, just one mansion with bosphorus view in Istanbul are being sold here up to 15-18 million US dollars. These mansions always had this value in Istanbul, even in 1920s.

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Onur

Thanks El Bre. Apparently he is, which confirms what i wrote above here;

Voltron denies this as he blindly refuses whatever i wrote here but it`s so obvious and well-known that Greeks from Turkey was much more rich, well-educated and more intelligent than the ones Greece. It`s no surprise that they have higher status than later immigrants from Greece. Because most of their grandparents had big properties in most luxurious spots in Istanbul. They sold these and immigrated to US after 1920s. For example, just one mansion with bosphorus view in Istanbul are being sold here up to 15-18 million US dollars. These mansions always had this value in Istanbul, even in 1920s.

Onur, his family left when he was a kid. It is common knowledge that Greeks from "the poli" were more priveledged than the ones from the mainland. It does not confirm anything you said since this is one example cited. There are just as many from Greece that are just as successful. Those luxurious homes you mentioned have been confiscated by Turkey not sold, so I fail to see your point. What chances are there for me to get my family's home back? Not likely, for the reasons you mentioned. Once again, nice try.

[Onur]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Those luxurious homes you mentioned have been confiscated by Turkey not sold, so I fail to see your point.

Do not lie.

I don't think anyone`s property has been confiscated and even if such a thing happened, i am sure you Greeks received compensation `till the last cent. Greek Cypriots sues us in the EU courts even for their stupid hatches and wooden barns left in northern parts. If you would have your luxury mansions here, you would sue us for the 10 times of it`s value and yell around in EU parliament.

What chances are there for me to get my family's home back? Not likely, for the reasons you mentioned. Once again, nice try.

What you gonna do here? Maybe you don't wanna remember but It`s not constantinopolis for 600 years! We do not greet people here with illustrations of bloody Cyprus maps unlike Greeks does but i don't think you belong here at all.

Also, your chance is equal as my chance to get back my grandparents properties in Petrich or equal as the descendants of 650.000+ Turks who came from Salonika and other parts of Aegean Macedonia.

[George S.]

Voltron you are living in a dreamworld of make beleive.Do you really think you are going to get your mansions back or you are going to give them back.I don't think so.You are asking for the impossible.Even if you could do you think the turks are silly enough to let you enjoy your mansion i don't think so.Once the houses were confiscated there is no way in hoot in hell you'll get them back & vice versa.