Macedonian Surnames

[VMRO]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

What a ridiculous name.

Usually reserved for the "domazet"

The Malenko surname is from the Ohrid region, while the surnames ending with N are from the Kostur/Lerin region.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by VMRO

The Malenko surname is from the Ohrid region, while the surnames ending with N are from the Kostur/Lerin region.

The Malenko name is awful, but if you swap a couple of vowels, it becomes glorious!

Again, the "N" ending would typically apply to a domazet whereby his name becomes "Malenkin" using the above example. And it goes further than Kostur/Lerin in my estimations.

[DedoAleko]

Originally Posted by makedonche

Dedo Aleko
How many more changes are we going to allow before we do something about it?

makedonche, we are all witnesses that things haven't changed much.Maybe it is even worse nowadays than before because we change our names on a voluntary basis, just to please our masters!

[Risto the Great]

Makedonche should think about his own name ... or our names in Australia. Many are already Anglicised one way or another. Being called Chris, I'm one of them.

[George S.]

the anglezizing has basterized the names people are avoiding the old Macedonian names

[VMRO]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

The Malenko name is awful, but if you swap a couple of vowels, it becomes glorious!

Again, the "N" ending would typically apply to a domazet whereby his name becomes "Malenkin" using the above example. And it goes further than Kostur/Lerin in my estimations.

Pretty interesting about the Domazet application.

Do you think Risto Altin or his ancestor was a domazet lol

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Constellation

Why not invent something new? Why not make your surnames entirely unique. Why not "ovia". Like Macedonia.

Because there is some precedence in such naming conventions, let alone the fact that it is grammatically correct. Why on earth would they create something new

I assumed incorrectly that ski was not native to the southern Balkans and that the Macedonian government began to change surnames (which is true to some extent) to ski. It is true in my family, where the original "ov" later become "ovski".

There may have been encouragement to use -ski instead of -ov and -ev in some areas and the imposed -ich in others. Right or wrong, I would suspect that many Macedonians were just fed up with Serbs and Bulgars laying false claim on them. If it was forced by the government then half of Macedonia would not be still using the -ov and -ev surnames.

[lavce pelagonski]

Constellation,

Have you heard of the Pirinski Tzar Jane SadanSKI?

In everyday selo life people would refer to others by -ovci. Eg. Denes ke odime kaj Klimovci.

What does your surname end in?

[julie]

Constellation
my paternal line there was no ov suffix, but ..evski
your assumption the son of applies to the ov only is incorrect, the ski also denoted "son of "

and during tito times surnames were forcibly changed in instances to "ich" for people in the Republic, and they reverted back to the ...ski

Paternal line from Republic

This will be hard for you to grasp as well...but pre Aegean Macedonia forcing the hellenisation of surnames on my maternal line.....they also were known by the suffix ovski.....

what point are you trying to make ?

[Constellation]

Originally Posted by julie

Constellation
my paternal line there was no ov suffix, but ..evski
your assumption the son of applies to the ov only is incorrect, the ski also denoted "son of "

and during tito times surnames were forcibly changed in instances to "ich" for people in the Republic, and they reverted back to the ...ski

I do not think "ski" means "son of". It means "from" or originating "from". Your are not the first to point this out, but I do not think it is accurate.

Paternal line from Republic

This will be hard for you to grasp as well...but pre Aegean Macedonia forcing the hellenisation of surnames on my maternal line.....they also were known by the suffix ovski.....

what point are you trying to make ?

It is not hard for me to grasp any of this. I will repeat what I have said multiple times...the purpose of this thread is education and discussion. There is no hidden motive to prove or disprove anything.

I assumed incorrectly that "ski" was imposed on top "ov" "ev" and in general "ski" to distance the Macedonians from the Bulgarians. Not because the Macedonians are Bulgarians and not because of some Tito conspiracy.

I have already stated that with my surname, it originally ended as "ov", but later became "ovski".

I still think the thesis about the Bulgarians is accurate, but very off in many other regards.

I now know "ski" has been in use for a long time and has been in a wide variety of regions, including so-called Greek Macedonia.