Greek General Demetrios Kallergis on who fought the Turks (1860)

TrueMacedonian · 04-18-2011, 07:50 PM

Who in the world is this General Kallergis??? Here's a slew of info on him - http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks...87aa4852ea88a1

Who is Nassau William Senior??? - http://www.offalyhistory.com/article...862/Page1.html

Soldier of Macedon · 04-18-2011, 07:52 PM

Not the real Greeks, but Albanians, Macedonians and foreigners who fought against the Turks! This is another very good source mate, well done, and keep em' coming.

TrueMacedonian · 04-18-2011, 07:55 PM

Thanks SoM. I think General Kallergis' words speak volumes about the truth of the revolution:

The real Greeks would never have driven out the Turks. They were too degraded even to wish for liberty. For many years after we had achieved our own independence they called the times of Turkish rule 'the good times. ' It was the Albanians and Macedonians and foreigners who fought the Turks.

George S. · 04-18-2011, 08:34 PM

TM congrats you nailed that myth down with gusto.TM you have proved there is so much evidence out there that will negate all that greek shit there.

julie · 04-19-2011, 01:31 AM

True macedonian is our awesome myth buster

TRAVOLTA · 04-19-2011, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by julie

True macedonian is our awesome myth buster

well said julie...

Daskalot · 04-19-2011, 02:37 AM

Thank you TM, a very valuable source!
Voltron can you please add your insights to this thread.

Voltron · 04-19-2011, 06:14 AM

Out of courtesy I didnt want to respond to this thread.

In any case, He was probably trying to make a point by having foreigners assist the Siciilan revolution but failed miserably. Also, since when is Sicilian a race ? A feeble race? but Italians in his opinion are a different nationality from Sicilians.

I dont know, but to me this is a sign that the guy is not all there or the book is not right.

makedonin · 04-19-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltron

Out of courtesy I didnt want to respond to this thread.

In any case, He was probably trying to make a point by having foreigners assist the Siciilan revolution but failed miserably. Also, since when is Sicilian a race ? A feeble race? but Italians in his opinion are a different nationality from Sicilians.

I dont know, but to me this is a sign that the guy is not all there or the book is not right.

Are you familiar with the Quote:

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Massimo D'Azeglio quoted from his memoirs: "L'Italia è fatta. Restano da fare gli italiani " literally: "Italy has been made; now it remains to make Italians", but often reported more colloquially as "We have made Italy. Now we must make Italians."

The quote is supposedly given in the first meeting of the parliament of the newly united Italian kingdom by his predecessor. (source1, source2)

What does it suggests according to you?

Nice find TM.

Droog · 04-19-2011, 07:53 AM

Just a minor addition: He used the term Macedonians in the context of Aromanians.
If you want to find the term Macedonian used for the Macedonian language etc., you should read some of Androutsos letters.

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Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Not the real Greeks, but Albanians, Macedonians and foreigners who fought against the Turks! This is another very good source mate, well done, and keep em' coming. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	Thanks SoM. I think General Kallergis' words speak volumes about the truth of the revolution: The real Greeks would never have driven out the Turks. They were too degraded even to wish for liberty. For many years after we had achieved our own independence they called the times of Turkish rule 'the good times. ' It was the Albanians and Macedonians and foreigners who fought the Turks. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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George S. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,116	TM congrats you nailed that myth down with gusto.TM you have proved there is so much evidence out there that will negate all that greek shit there. Last edited by George S.; 04-18-2011 at 08:35 PM. Reason: ed

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Daskalot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In a Library Posts: 4,345	Thank you TM, a very valuable source! Voltron can you please add your insights to this thread. __________________ Macedonian Truth Organisation

04-19-2011, 06:14 AM	#8
Voltron Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,362	Out of courtesy I didnt want to respond to this thread. In any case, He was probably trying to make a point by having foreigners assist the Siciilan revolution but failed miserably. Also, since when is Sicilian a race ? A feeble race? but Italians in his opinion are a different nationality from Sicilians. I dont know, but to me this is a sign that the guy is not all there or the book is not right.

04-19-2011, 07:53 AM	#10
Droog Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In, Out and Around Posts: 120	Just a minor addition: He used the term Macedonians in the context of Aromanians. If you want to find the term Macedonian used for the Macedonian language etc., you should read some of Androutsos letters.

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