Vissinea, Visheni

[osiris]

just give it up smoliani and join the world.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Svoliani

Kranya, a village near KOZANI? A Greek speaking region of Macedonia??
This author really knows his stuff.
So the kids learned the dialect in no time!! I wonder if they grew up thinking they are Ethnic Macedonians. Looks like we just met our first Slavophone Greeks!!!

I found this part interesting.

The observant reader will have noticed that our village, and the other villages around Kastoria and Florina, cannot be more than 400-500 years old. The date given (1660) for the village of Babchor is when three settlements came together and formed it, according to GEORGE STOICHEV'S pamphlet. According to B. SHLKLIFOV, the villages of CHERESNITSA and BLATSA were near FOTINISHTA 200-300 years ago. They moved from the plain to the mountains to be far from the Turkish authorities. He also claims that the whole population in the Kastoria district could have
come from the South. This is consistent with the historical events of the past, as there was a revolt in Thessaly in the twelfth century by Slavs and V1achs against Byzantine rule, after which they moved up closer to their kin. However, I have heard DEDO FILETO KIOSEV on several occasions say that we came from EPIROS. This is also consistent with historical events of the past because there were Slav tribes settled in Albania also and could have been pushed eastwards by the Albanians later.


What do you make of the authors claims of only 400 years in Macedonia? And does anyone agree with this South to North migration?

Its possible.

[osiris]

pelister as late as the first decade of the 20thc some people living in epiros and albania who spoke po nasha . our house in dragosh was biult by nashi maestori od yanina .

[makedonin]

Originally Posted by Svoliani

Psofisano

Putrefaction, rotting

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by osiris

pelister as late as the first decade of the 20thc some people living in epiros and albania who spoke po nasha . our house in dragosh was biult by nashi maestori od yanina .

That's interesting.

One guy I was reading about lived in a village outside Debar. The local Pasha wanted to marry his daughter - and he would not give her away, so he fled - he went to the summit of Pirin, walked a few miles down and founded his own village in the early 18th century.

[Svoliani]

"Most of the dances in our village, as in the rest of Macedonia, show a strong Greek influence, especially the 7/8 rhythm (called the "KALAMATIANO" in Greek) is widespread. Another popular dance is the one we call "PUSHENOTO" or "BAYRACHETO" which is of Albanian origin and is written in 12/18 time. It is only known in the western fringe of Macedonia and should be called "BERAT."

OPA!!!
YouTube - Berache

[Risto the Great]

Oh the Pushcheno is Albanian now.
Thanks.
So is Athens.
Perhaps we are all Albanians ... which in turn makes us all Greek.
In Donkeyland this might make sense.

[Risto the Great]

And aside form the original post ... What were you hoping to say about Visheni?

[Svoliani]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

And aside form the original post ... What were you hoping to say about Visheni?

Sorry , the paragraph about the dances of Visheni and how they have Greek influence (kalamatiano) and Albanian (pushteno, berat) were taken from the book about Visheni, they are the opinions of the author who lives in Adelaide. But yes i do agree with alot of what he says!

Are we ever going to find out what selo you are from?
If i were to guess, you seem like a Neretchanets!! Am i close?

[Risto the Great]

Svol, opinions are like arseholes ... everyone has one.
The Adelaidechanets author clearly has expressed one. Many would disagree in that instance and unless we can see what the Ancient Athenians danced like ... we might just as easily source the original dances from Macedonia. I am far from convinced about the Poushcheno being an Albanian dance.

I am also from selo Adelaide but my people are from Kotori and Vrbeni.