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![]() This is from an article titled, 'The Bulgarians', in the July 1980 issue of the National Geographic by Boyd Gibbons. His case study is the Tunov family of Gorna Sushitsa in Pirin Macedonia. The article itself is an interesting read but what caught my eye, in particular, is the author's following account on page 100:
After dinner Vangalia dialed the radio until she found some folk music broadcast from Skopje, the capital of the Macedonian republic in Yugoslavia. Because of their Macedonian heritage, Bulgarians in the Pirin listen regularly to Macedonian folk music from Yugoslavia. What is often referred to on the Balkan Peninsular as the "Macedonian question" is not a question at all. It is a century of failures by Bulgaria - in the Balkan Wars, and again in both World Wars allied with Germany - to regain all of Macedonia and territories south to the Aegean, where Bulgarian shepherds once wintered their flocks. Bulgarians say that the people in Macedonia are Bulgarian. That sends the Yugoslavs into near apoplexy. The Yugoslavs assert that Macedonians are Macedonians, and that Georgi Dimitrov as much as said so. In recent years the Bulgarian census showed few Bulgarians in the Pirin being counted as Macedonians. It might help explain the Kalashnikov submachine guns bristling on their tense frontier to recall that the Yugoslavs didn't call this simply a case of census manipulation - they branded it "statistical genocide."...Earlier I had asked Atanas whether he considered himself Macedonian or Bulgarian. "I am Bulgarian." Judging by the author's earlier observations about the "Kalashnikov submachine guns" being the reason for the sudden change of heart by the inhabitants of the Pirin region to go from Macedonians to Bulgarians, I doubt the author was convinced by Atanas' reply. |
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![]() Huns, Tartars, Khazars, Asian, Turko-Mongoloid.
Is there any information that details whether the Bulgar’s were a distinct ethnic group and not a mixture of peoples “prior” to fleeing into Eastern Europe? Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1968. Bulgaria, II. History The Bulgars. - The first mention of the Bulgars in European history occurs towards the end of the 5th century A.D, the name being applied to some of the numerous tribes of non-Indo-European origin that had followed in the wake of Attila’s invasion and settled down temporarily in the steppes north of the Black sea and to the northeast of the Danube. These tribes of fierce, barbarous horsemen, despotically ruled by their khans (chiefs) and boyars or bolyars (nobles), lived mainly from war and raiding. Little is known about their religion. In A.D. 433 their federation of tribes spilt into two main groups-the Utiguri to the east and the Kutuguri to the west. About 560 the Avars conquered the Kutiguri and assimilated the survivors, so that the Kutiguri then disappeared from history. Less than a decade later the Utiguri were enslaved by the Turks. The next name to appear is that of the khan Kubrat, ruler of a tribal confederation north of the Black sea that lasted until the middle of the 7th century. One of the Kubrat’s sons, Asparukh or Isperikh, moved westward under the impact of the advance of the Khazars (q.v.), crossed the Danube in 679 and settled down in Moesia, which was then a province of Byzantine empire. In 681 the Bulgar state in Moesia was officially recognized by the Byzantine emperor Constantine IV. Asparukh’s horde, probably not very numerous, was gradually assimilated by the more advanced Slavs, whos language and ways of life the Bulgars adopted. Atlas of world history, volume one. 1978. Hermann Kinder and Werner Hilgemann The Bulgars: remnants of the Huns retreated into the steppes of Southern Russia, where, mixing with the Ugrians, they established a Bulgarian state, which reached its greatest power under Kuvrat (d. 679). After the destruction of this state by the Khazars. One group established a Danube-Bulgarian state, and another a Volga-Bulgarian state, which were eliminated by the Mongols (13th century); the remainder subjected themselves to Khazar rule. |
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![]() This post is a shocker..
The TFR of Macedonia is 1.5, the Muslim TFR would be 1.7 where the Macedonians is 1.3 amongst the lowest in the world. You dont have to be a mathematician to figure out the sum results if the status quoontinues. Dont worry about Bulgaria.. |
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![]() In the Ghetto. The Roma of Stolipinovo (Full Documentary)
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLYc07GQB4I "In the Ghetto. The Roma of Stolipinovo” documents the perspectives and experiences of Roma inhabitants in their neighbourhood over the last decades. It tells a striking tale of unemployment, hunger, insufficient medical care, illiteracy and segregated schools in one of the biggest Roma ghettos in Southeastern Europe. The documentary shows Stolipinovo in the years before and after the accession of Bulgaria to the European Union (2006/2007) and illustrates the extreme living conditions and their relation to perpetuated persecution and discrimination, which are unfortunately still relevant today. Hermann Peseckas and Andreas Kunz were the first film makers to shoot a feature-length documentary in Stolipinovo and they give an inside view on traditions, history and everyday life "In the Ghetto". Direction: Hermann Peseckas Script: Andreas Kunz, Hermann Peseckas Music: Petar Vaklinov Editing: Hermann Peseckas Sound: Andreas Kunz Camera: Hermann Peseckas Production: Studio West Release Date: 2009 Technical Data: DV Cam, 75 min Language: Bulgarian with Engl. Subtitles ![]() ![]() |
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![]() The Macedonian minority in Bulgaria in the late 19th century. From Duncan Perry's The Politics of Terror: The Macedonian Revolutionary Movements, 1893-1903.
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I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented. |
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![]() Thanks. Do you have any additional pages?
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![]() Yes! In the process of photocopying parts of the book I found particulary interesting. I have uploaded some other images to other threads already.
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![]() Excellent! Good work
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![]() Kosta Šahov claims that the highest positions in Bulgaria were occupied by Macedonians:
https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...85%D0%BE%D0%B2
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