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Old 11-01-2012, 11:03 PM   #141
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great response from Ivanov. Well done.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #142
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A moment of clarity.
Lets hope he doesn't scramble to "clarify" his comments after he hears that Hillary Clinton won't be visiting (oh the pressure!) and offers up joint Ilinden celebrations or something of the like.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:02 AM   #143
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I don't support any celebrations with bulgaria until such time as it wises up on pirin macedonia..I want full human rights as recognized for the macedonians.Whatever they are entitled to then well worry about celebrations later.I think the bulgarians are simply trying to take the heat of the situation in pirin & pretend everything is ok there it's still not.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:28 AM   #144
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Storm of reactions in Bulgaria after Ivanov's proposals

Will judge according to the works of good neighborly relations, and not according to the letters, said Bulgarian President Plevneliev

Proposal of Macedonia jointly celebrated Europe Day is far from what Bulgaria envisioned as a joint celebration dates general, said yesterday the head of the Bulgarian state, Rosen Plevneliev, the idea of ​​President Ivanov.

- And why not slavime Gotse Delchev - asks Plevneliev.

Being already announced, Ivanov letter to Plevneliev, who asked for a joint celebration of historical events, suggested three ideas: Europe Day, the day when Bulgaria n `admitted or day of the established diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Such proposals in the letter caused a storm of reactions in Sofia.

According to Plevneliev, letters and ideas for working groups coming from Macedonia is one thing, and what's important to him results, reforms and action, and it results in the interest of good neighborly relations.

He, as the Bulgarian media, explained that his yet zavcherashni words and criticism Macedonia actually answer the message he received from Skopje.

Ivanov, however, Sochi yesterday said he agreed with the statement of Plevneliev necessary works and said that Macedonian officials are ready with all the neighbors to discuss official meetings for all open questions and to find an answer.

- I agree with the statement of the Bulgarian President. Parts are needed. We are ready with all our neighbors to discuss official meetings for all open issues. I hope it will make a future meeting, and not through the media. H `expected future together and we all have to contribute to be part of it - said Ivanov.

According to Foreign Minister Nikola Poposki, Ivanov's proposal is a European response because the celebration of Europe Day provides an opportunity to show how countries are committed to the continent's most successful peace project EU.

After Ivanov's proposal for a joint celebration of some dates, reacted Bulgarian historian Dimitrov, who says he has long been ready to offer a list of dates for the celebration.

- If he sees a man list three dates proposed by Ivanov, will think that Macedonia is a country only since 1991, and we all know that is not so - said Dimitrov, who proposes to jointly celebrate St. Kiril and Methodius and Ilinden.

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Old 11-29-2012, 12:12 AM   #145
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On the brink of civil war, we are revolting against VMRO
http://www.bulgariautre.bg/2012/11/2...revoga_ot_vmro


Christians are to be burned, said a trial of the case "radical Islam"

Bulgaria is on the brink of civil war after the collapse of social policy in the country, said deputy chairman of VMRO Angel Djambazki a protest march in front of the court in Pazardzhik, which today look the case for radical Islam.

According to him, the Roma population in the neighborhoods on the edge of poverty will be left in this position and will do everything possible to gain any benefits from the state.

"The Roma population is the position of the conquest of space between Islamists and Turkish intelligence," he said.

In his words, radical Islam is not a religion, it is politics, because either way people who hold this type of religion, had won their religious rights, and this time they will now fight for a place in politics.

Nationalists protest peacefully now runs, and he was joined and more citizens.

Meanwhile, the Court announced the Protocol of interrogation of witness Secret 005.

His testimony related to one of the defendants in the trial - Moza Ahmed Ahmed. The witness stated that he lives in a neighborhood with a mixed population. He wrote that years ago the district had no conflicts, all lived in harmony, but the pressure started about 10 years ago - after the construction of the mosque, "Abu Bekir" in the Roma district of Pazardzhik.

The witness tension due to the sermons of Ahmed Ahmed, in which he says that those who are not Muslims should be burned.

The witness recalled that years ago Ahmed was convicted of being a Muslim flag waving in the Roma neighborhood in Pazardzhik.

During the wedding does say that Christians should be killed and the women and children remain a Muslim and chops: "I bow to those who cut heads faith."

The witness - Ahmed Ahmed has 20 associates, who are also known as hit squad. They carried out attacks on Christians, the witness stated as an example a case in which before Easter they attacked a group of young people - Christians and after beating one of the boys was taken to hospital.

The witness supporters of Ahmed Ahmed wants state and religious court. They believe that not only Bulgaria and the whole world will become Muslim, ready to put the bombs and shoot, go dressed as the Taliban in Afghanistan. Their Islam has nothing to do with the traditional. They say not to vote in elections because God determines who what to be. The witness claims that they live wealthy without working



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In his words, radical Islam is not a religion, it is politics, because either way people who hold this type of religion, had won their religious rights, and this time they will now fight for a place in politics
Sounds familiar...?
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Very interesting coordinated statements by Sofia officials

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Parvanov: Sofia not to prevent Macedonia towards EU

Let us not go too far and do not hinder Macedonia to the EU because it is short-sighted, said today the former Bulgarian President Georgi Parvanov told Bulgarian National Radio.

- More than 20 years as a scientist working as a topic - Macedonia. I own publications, I have a sharp and bitter polemics with fellow historians of Skopje, with politicians, even the president of that country. And I am about to argue, to defend its historical past, its culture of similar outrages that we see in some of the media before. Let us not go too far, do not stop Macedonia to the EU because it is not prescient. We stop Macedonians as people close to us with the same origin with which we shared future. Should be the other way around, said to be the largest support Parvanov.

Asked about what it said, antibugarskata propaganda in Skopje, he says "I know a long time ago."

- In 1986, when almost nobody're allowed, argued a Balkan forum with his books and articles. There are other barriers, other guarantees should not allow similar abuses and pretensions minority Пиринската area, claims, if you want, here and there, to alter the boundaries. But there is no way to prevent publications, not to prevent positions media except kontrastavovi still stronger argument, what we possess. The truth is on our side, you just need to invest in science, in the media to this truth can not be known only in Bulgaria but in Europe, because in Skopje are very active on this issue, said Parvanov.

Asked about the intention of the government in Sofia to seek help from the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences in relation to the issue of good neighborly relations with Macedonia he says he always advocated that science be used when making the final decisions of the institutions.

- Academy should be used but it should be stimulated further. It has a modest almost no pay and nothing more, says former President of Bulgaria, Georgi Parvanov.

izvor: http://www.sitel.com.mk/node/55129


Borisov: Macedonians our najbratski people, but some politicians forget that!

Macedonians' najbratski closest people of Bulgaria, Boyko Borisov, Prime Minister of neighboring Bulgaria, in an interview with TV + TV.

He says that although he is dissatisfied with the policy of Macedonia to Bulgaria, it is a mistake that his country has recognized Macedonia under its constitutional name.

"They our najbratski people, our closest people and it was a wonderful gesture to them. I regret that there are politicians who forget and do not appreciate it. They are different people from us for the simple reason that a different state, they are Macedonian citizens, we are Bulgarian citizens, "Borisov said in an interview.

Asked about the dispute Borisov match:

"I do not want to talk about that subject, because it can be speculated. We recognize Macedonia as a country, she helped more than all, have supported everything and hope that the Macedonians will recognize it and need to know that good neighborliness is one of the main things in the EU. "

Borisov in an interview with talk of communism, when the Bulgarians in Pirin Macedonia force were forced to declare themselves as Macedonians. Among them, said Borisov, and father of the current Bulgarian President Rosen Plevneliev.

"Now some politicians in Macedonia can say that the Bulgarian President is Macedonian. Not dawned, "said Borisov.

According to him, the two neighboring countries should focus on economic cooperation and infrastructural connectivity, not history.

izvor: http://www.mkd.mk/90946/makedonija/m...bratski-narod/


There is one info on fb that claims a bulgarian journalist asked the bulgarian pm to apologize to Macedonia,but I can't find the original source.

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:17 PM   #148
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http://republika.mk/?p=8090

Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly, an amendment has taken the Macedonian minority of the text of resolution extend the post-monitoring dialogue with Bulgaria.

PACE resolution is concerned about the growth of nationalist ideology and hostile climate against minorities such behaviors attacks against Muslims and supporters against Roma throughout Bulgaria. Simultaneously the full implementation of the provisions of the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, and the signing and ratification of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages.

However, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, however, the resolution wiped Macedonian minority and Pomaks. The draft text of the resolution requires special care for these two unrecognized minorities. Deletion of the Macedonian minority of resolution happen through amendment submitted by a group of parliamentarians, and before PACE proposal defended Bulgarian MP Lachezar Toshev.

- In 2000, when Bulgaria has ratified the Framework Convention for minorities, we decided to make a list of recognized minorities. We believe that all groups can enjoy the protection of the Framework Convention, "pointed Tosev. Macedonian minority is not recognized by the Bulgarian state and it is not on the list.
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This is ridiculous half of Bulgaria is Macedonia and Macedonians have an exile community there also as many of them are Aegeans.
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This is ridiculous half of Bulgaria is Macedonia and Macedonians have an exile community there also as many of them are Aegeans.
The much hated VULGAROS today are Greece's most trusted bedfellow .. joke

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