Soros, NGOs and Western/foreign meddling in Macedonia

[iceman]

iceman: Ofcourse they want Gruevski out because the dog zaev is a western and soros puppet , who has not agreed to a name change , also because soros and the west want to stop russian pipeline going through macedonia which will provide enormous amounts of revenue for the Macedonian country and increase the quality of life for all Macedonians citizens.
The protesters a sheep going to the slaughter without realizing it . Creating a ukraine situation to install a western puppet like zaev who is ready to sell out macedonia



Video: Macedonian Opposition Debacle: Prepared 4 months for 10,000 Protesters
Sunday, 17 May 2015



It started off with 10,000 protesters, however the numbers are quickly dwindling with each passing minute. MINA's Marija Nikolovska is in downtown Skopje, interviewing people. A great deal of them were bussed from Kumanovo, Strumica and Ohrid.

It was shocking to see many elderly present at the protest, are they protesting the fact their pensions have risen over 50% in the last 8 years? Or are they protesting the fact the Government is sending them on free vacations in the summer and during the winter? Or perhaps they are protesting the free healthcare and free bus passes they each get?

MINA's Marija Nikolovska says, they are not protesting anything, in fact they are there because their sons and daughters brought them. There are videos circulating on youtube, with "protesters" saying they have no idea what's going on, and why they are in Skopje to protest.
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According to SDSM insiders there was a massive quarrel between Zaev and SDSM's "field managers". Zaev asked for 100,000 people to be bussed to Skopje, however there are 10 times less than that, roughly 10,000 which is quite embarassing considering the ruling Government called on citizens to show support for police and 80,000 showed up on the streets within hours!

The protest was peaceful. SDSM stayed away from their violent scenario. Is it because everyone became aware of it thanks to the police action in Kumanovo

[ramo]

Originally Posted by iceman

Video: Macedonian Opposition Debacle: Prepared 4 months for 10,000 Protesters
Sunday, 17 May 2015



MINA's Marija Nikolovska says, they are not protesting anything, in fact they are there because their sons and daughters brought them. There are videos circulating on youtube, with "protesters" saying they have no idea what's going on, and why they are in Skopje to protest.



The protest was peaceful. SDSM stayed away from their violent scenario. Is it because everyone became aware of it thanks to the police action in Kumanovo

The latest bullshit theory for dummies.

" Parents dragged on protests by their children "

Where are those videos from people that do not know why they are in Skopje? In your imagination?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXXR...&feature=share

This looks way more than 10 000 people. And what happened with CIA and the Masonic plan to hire violent thugs?

[julie]

Suppose the crowd supported being spoken to in Bulgarian too, because, you know , freedom and sloboda and all that.
Disgusting

[julie]

http://english.republika.mk/stanishe...lly-in-skopje/

how wonderful for freedom and sloboda in Macedonia !

Stanishev not once in his speech mention the word MACEDONIA and watched the live stream , because, I like to see with my own eyes the 300,000 people Albania reported to the 20,000 disinterested crowd in attendance

Round of applause for the SDSMS sympathisers and apologists
showing their true NON Macedonian colours

[ramo]

Originally Posted by julie

http://english.republika.mk/stanishe...lly-in-skopje/

how wonderful for freedom and sloboda in Macedonia !

Stanishev not once in his speech mention the word MACEDONIA and watched the live stream , because, I like to see with my own eyes the 300,000 people Albania reported to the 20,000 disinterested crowd in attendance

Round of applause for the SDSMS sympathisers and apologists
showing their true NON Macedonian colours

I get it you have animosity against me i don't mind that. I also know how is the official bulgarian politics. But the speech was mainly in english with simultaneus translation in macedonian from the videos available i watched. And he uses the name Republic of Macedonia and says Македонија again in his final sentences in bulgarian. If there was some serbian representative he would have spoken in Serbian it is no problem at all for me, not everyone can speak Macedonian. So he mentioned Macedonia twice and it does not make the offician bulgarian position better. This means you did not watch the live stream as you say (at least that's what i understood) at least not Stanishev speech.

But one thing is interesting, how sdsm from anti-vrhovist party now is being labeled as pro-bulgairan.

[George S.]

The crowd demanded that gruevski resign for various reasons,For murder and corruption etc.

[julie]

http://www.novinite.com/articles/168...+Crisis+Monday


whilst Macedonians in the Republic continue to hate on each other, and hate on their diaspora, the west seeks to step in, again

You see, this is what happens with NATIONALISM - blind one eyed allegiance to a political PARTY and not PATRIOTISM - allegiance to COUNTRY

[iceman]

iceman: There is an article which was let out days before that soros propaganda machine would be claiming that there was 100,000 protesters. Now we know that this is a soros-eu-nato-us-zaev-conspiracy against Macedonia and its sovereignty.

We know that it is foreign bastards who provided these taped conversations to the treacherous dog zaev to destabilize Macedonia and destroy it.(in other words there are foreign spies spying on Macedonia)

Any one with SDSM are traitors and are not looking to support Macedonia and its people.

Ever notice that these EU-NATO-USA-SOROS bastards never call the Albanian terrorists in Macedonia terrorists but "armed groups" ... Sound familiar .. yes thats what happened in 2001 .. Listen to me you SDSM bastards , there is a reason why the EU-NATO-USA-SOROS want Gruevski out and its because they cannot control him like a puppet to change the name-to get rid of the Russian pipleline (which will give huge revenues to Macedonia and its people) and also to create a greater Albania and carve up Macedonia one and for all. Traitor Zaev is ready to be this treacherous puppet.. Mark my words if Gruevski government fall so will Macedonia




Serbians and Croatians apparently have had it with Soros owned media in both countries. Citizens of these two countries used the social networks to attack the propaganda placed by Blic, RTB, Tanjug, B92, Index... who became infamous for reporting on dozens of killed civilians and "battles" in Skopje and Tetovo during the Kumanovo incident. Today, Soros owned media lied that 100,000 protesters gathered to support the opposition in Skopje, which was mocked by everyone in the Balkans.

MINA warned before the protest that Soros owned media had precooked articles weeks ago where they were instructed to present today's protest as numbering 100,000.

Some of the comments across the Balkans are interesting to say the least, with sarcasm taking the lead. It appears every single individuals knows one thing for sure. Macedonia is being destabilized from outside, SDSM and Kosovo terrorists are simply pions used for the destabilization from the inside.
We have translated quite a few comments from social media, the originals are available at the end of the article.

"Gruevski is one terrible dude, Macedonia has the strongest economy in Europe, and that's just terrible!".... "Macedonia's economy is enough to raise the alarm in Washington, Americans don't like countries who do well" ....
"Lets get this right. The Macedonian opposition has tapes of wiretapps that the Macedonian Government has supposedly spied on people. Yet the wiretapped "people" are all Macedonian Government officials?? So isn't it obvious that the CIA/NSA has spied on Macedonian officials and given the tapes to the opposition who then edited them?" asks a Slovenian citizen.
"Macedonian opposition wants to take over the Government, but they don't want elections, is it because they can't win?"

"If Macedonia allows to be played by the Americans, well look at the Ukrainians, they no longer have a country. Just look at them under American control... tragic!" commented another Slovenian citizen.

"The US should really not make it this obvious who is behind the protest" ....
"100,000? I don't see even 15,000 people here" .... "I don't think these people know why they are there, the Government just won their elections overwhelmingly" ...
"Macedonian Zombies?"
"100,000 people? Is it a joke? AFP reported is around 20,000. Looking at the TV, I sincerely doubt it's even 20,000"
"It looks the "opposition" is bothered that IMF predicted highest GDP growth for Macedonia +4.7%, compared to Serbia's -0.5".... "Look out Macedonia, the vultures did the same thing to Serbia, took down the Government by force, look at us now"...
"We have terrible experience with the West, these protests are financed by them"..."20,000? who are you kidding?" It's obvious Foreign Government(s) is behind the failed protest".

These are just some of the comments left in both Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia. Samples of their comments are available below.
Our old friend, billionaire George Soros owns 28 newsportals and TV stations just in the Balkans. Has de facto control of the English speaking propaganda machine, working in tandem with the CIA.

US news giant Fox news has an interesting article of dozens of US journalists at over 30 leading newspapers being on Soros' payroll and publishing propaganda in synchronicity - among which are (ABC News, NY Times, Seattle Times, CBS, NBC, NPR, San Francisco Times, Washington Post ...). When you throw in the CIA involvement into the Western media (US, Australian and British)... you're likely to never get the truth, on any event. //Gorazd Velkovski

[Big Bad Sven]

Interesting, seems like the regular Slovene, Croat and Serb knows whats up.

In macedonia we have an unusual mix that think Gruevski created this false flag attack, the americans have no interest in the region/pipeline, zaev is the savior and better then gruevski, and that albanians are on the side of macedonia because for one sole day in macedonia's 20+ history they march together with macedonians.

What a odd bunch of characters those macedonians are

[ramo]

Originally Posted by iceman

Now we know that this is a soros-eu-nato-us-zaev-conspiracy against Macedonia and its sovereignty.

We know that it is foreign bastards who provided these taped conversations to the treacherous dog zaev to destabilize Macedonia and destroy it.(in other words there are foreign spies spying on Macedonia)

Any one with SDSM are traitors and are not looking to support Macedonia and its people.

Ever notice that these EU-NATO-USA-SOROS bastards never call the Albanian terrorists in Macedonia terrorists but "armed groups" ... Sound familiar .. yes thats what happened in 2001 .. Listen to me you SDSM bastards , there is a reason why the EU-NATO-USA-SOROS want Gruevski out and its because they cannot control him like a puppet to change the name-to get rid of the Russian pipleline (which will give huge revenues to Macedonia and its people) and also to create a greater Albania and carve up Macedonia one and for all. Traitor Zaev is ready to be this treacherous puppet.. Mark my words if Gruevski government fall so will Macedonia

1. Why you never respond and debate to your spam posts?
2. Do you know that that main strategy of every single government since macedonian independence is admission in EU and NATO? Gruevski election program is no exception. Do you need this fact to be drawn to you?
3. Do you know that many Macedonians on this forum actually live in countries part of these bastards EU-NATO-USA-Soros?
4. The only thing these bastard Soros-NATO-USA-EU member states told this sick man gruevski is that he should do something about these recordings like in any democratic state? He is not the only prime minister involved in corruption but he got caught.
5. Do you know that gruevski is negotiation for name change of Macedonia?
6. Finally if he does not want Macedonia of these bastard EU-NATO alliances he should state that publicly in front of the Macedonian public.