Eurovision - Page 2

Prolet · 02-06-2010, 01:40 AM

Its a great song, i know Kiril Dzajkovski personally and he actually lived in Australia, his brother still lives here. He is a fantastic bloke and very talented, this song is very good especially the part with the Truba!!!

Brygian Seed · 02-07-2010, 03:49 PM

If Kiril's track is to represent Macedonia, it needs to be entered and win the Skopje Festival.

Buktop · 02-08-2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueMacedonian

Yeah I've been to Memento. A fight broke out between some Serbs lol. It was funny as hell. But it just gets way too cramped in their.

Yea, its way too small, but a nice place either way. Did you go to the Riverside Manor this year after the Igranka?

TrueMacedonian · 02-18-2010, 02:26 PM

Bump, this song is really catchy

Soldier of Macedon · 02-19-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueMacedonian

Bump, this song is really catchy

Lol, I was thinking the same today as well. Not that bad at all, ama frlete berem eden zbor po nase bre.....

Bratot · 02-19-2010, 03:35 AM

Ima be, Esma se rasfrla

Mikail · 04-12-2010, 09:59 AM

GRIGORIS VALIANATOS-Makedonija i EUROVISION 2010
YouTube - GRIGORIS VALIANATOS-Makedonija i EUROVISION 2010

julie · 04-12-2010, 10:22 AM

What I would like to know what the hell does the f#$@$#$#$ en European Union recognition of the name Macedonia got to do with Eurovision song entrant choices and what is with Hell Ass permission to do so!

Rogi · 04-12-2010, 10:48 AM

Hmm, that's quite a different reaction from the Greeks to what we would have seen not too long ago.

They are now acknowledging and somewhat agreeing that theirs is a losing battle and a lost cause, where not too long ago they would vehemently oppose the mere suggestion of this.

I find it interesting, almost as if there is a very slow but nonetheless gradual weakening of the Greek media position on Macedonia's name.

Truth be told, what I've just written sounds almost impossible, but it is the immediate impression I had after seeing this. From positive racists (positive in the sense that they believed they will destroy us) to negative racists (negative in that they don't believe in their ability to destroy us), nonetheless racists, but it's always important to pay attention to the changing landscape.

fyrOM · 04-12-2010, 02:09 PM

They are being consistent in their efforts to prevent Macedonia using the name Macedonia as they have in sporting events. There is nothing different.

The individual claiming this resistance is a lost cause is the only one saying it. No one supported him but as Rogi pointed out no one opposed his statement strongly as one would have expected. A telling point - maybe.

As a pessimist in this question I too had the impression it was a surprising they did not jump at him but drew a different conclusion to why. The recent racist rants by their military definitely put a kink in the way Greece is perceived and hence the need to rebalance perception they will try to put a positive spin on any near future confrontation to try and regain, at least in their opinion, the moral high ground. One thing I have encountered on a different site was one person putting to another could Greece voluntarily leave the EU or be made to leave and how this would effect their veto power and hence could Macedonia get in the EU under her own name. The response was Greece wouldn’t leave and nor are they likely to be made to leave but for argument sake if this were to occur there is always Cyprus who would oppose Macedonia’s entrance let alone Frances position is still negative. One can present a softer face when you know you still have a knockout bomb in your back pocket. Never trust tricky Greek.

02-18-2010, 02:26 PM	#14
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	Bump, this song is really catchy __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

02-19-2010, 03:35 AM	#16
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	Ima be, Esma se rasfrla __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

04-12-2010, 09:59 AM	#17
Mikail Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,338	GRIGORIS VALIANATOS-Makedonija i EUROVISION 2010 GRIGORIS VALIANATOS-Makedonija i EUROVISION 2010 YouTube - GRIGORIS VALIANATOS-Makedonija i EUROVISION 2010 __________________ From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

02-06-2010, 01:40 AM	#11
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Its a great song, i know Kiril Dzajkovski personally and he actually lived in Australia, his brother still lives here. He is a fantastic bloke and very talented, this song is very good especially the part with the Truba!!!

02-07-2010, 03:49 PM	#12
Brygian Seed Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 55	If Kiril's track is to represent Macedonia, it needs to be entered and win the Skopje Festival.

04-12-2010, 10:22 AM	#18
julie Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: makedonska colonia Posts: 3,869	What I would like to know what the hell does the f#$@$#$#$ en European Union recognition of the name Macedonia got to do with Eurovision song entrant choices and what is with Hell Ass permission to do so!

04-12-2010, 10:48 AM	#19
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	Hmm, that's quite a different reaction from the Greeks to what we would have seen not too long ago. They are now acknowledging and somewhat agreeing that theirs is a losing battle and a lost cause, where not too long ago they would vehemently oppose the mere suggestion of this. I find it interesting, almost as if there is a very slow but nonetheless gradual weakening of the Greek media position on Macedonia's name. Truth be told, what I've just written sounds almost impossible, but it is the immediate impression I had after seeing this. From positive racists (positive in the sense that they believed they will destroy us) to negative racists (negative in that they don't believe in their ability to destroy us), nonetheless racists, but it's always important to pay attention to the changing landscape.

04-12-2010, 02:09 PM	#20
fyrOM Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,180	They are being consistent in their efforts to prevent Macedonia using the name Macedonia as they have in sporting events. There is nothing different. The individual claiming this resistance is a lost cause is the only one saying it. No one supported him but as Rogi pointed out no one opposed his statement strongly as one would have expected. A telling point - maybe. As a pessimist in this question I too had the impression it was a surprising they did not jump at him but drew a different conclusion to why. The recent racist rants by their military definitely put a kink in the way Greece is perceived and hence the need to rebalance perception they will try to put a positive spin on any near future confrontation to try and regain, at least in their opinion, the moral high ground. One thing I have encountered on a different site was one person putting to another could Greece voluntarily leave the EU or be made to leave and how this would effect their veto power and hence could Macedonia get in the EU under her own name. The response was Greece wouldn’t leave and nor are they likely to be made to leave but for argument sake if this were to occur there is always Cyprus who would oppose Macedonia’s entrance let alone Frances position is still negative. One can present a softer face when you know you still have a knockout bomb in your back pocket. Never trust tricky Greek.

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