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Old 02-15-2010, 06:42 PM   #91
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Macedonia will not vote for Australia to become a member on the UN security council because of Mike Rann's Anti-Macedonian propaganda, Macedonia will now vote for Luxembourg.
Yep, this is very appropriate.
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:09 PM   #92
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About time the Macedonian government stood up for itself. Bravo!
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About time the Macedonian government stood up for itself. Bravo!
True, however why vote for Luxembourg instead of Finland for example?? Whats in it for us?? Will they recognize our name? Finland has recognized us.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:17 PM   #94
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Greek Government Bashes Germany, asks for WW2 money
Thursday, 18 February 2010
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/12524/1/

You know you are in financial trouble when you go back to WW2 and ask Germany for 'war damages'. As irony would have it, Greece is asking for 'war money' from the country which essentially created Greece in 1835.
Greek opposition lawmakers said on Thursday that Germans should pay reparations for their World War Two occupation of Greece before criticising the country over its yawning fiscal deficits.
"How does Germany have the cheek to denounce us over our finances when it has still not paid compensation for Greece's war victims?" Margaritis Tzimas, of the main opposition New Democracy party, told parliament.
"There are still Greeks weeping for their lost brothers," the conservative lawmaker said during a debate on a bill to clean up the country's discredited statistical service. This type of silly rhetoric will only further frustrate the Germans who have poured billions into Greece for the past 20 years.
to help Athens could threaten the euro.

Merkel's stance is backed by opinion polls showing that a vast majority of Germans oppose a bailout, and Germany's biggest selling daily Bild has lambasted Greece as a nation of lazy cheats who should be "thrown out of the euro on their ear".

But Greek lawmakers from three left-wing and conservative opposition parties said Germans had no right to claim the moral high ground.

Six deputies from the small Left Coalition party urged the government to press Berlin over the reparations issue and blamed German banks and politicians for Greece's crisis.

"By their statements, German politicians and German financial institutions play a leading role in a wretched game of profiteering at the expense of the Greek people," they said in a written question to the government.

Responding to criticism that Greece fiddled its figures to get into the euro in 2001, communist MP Nikos Papaconstantinou asserted that Germany was not above using such tricks itself.

"As if we didn't know that Germany inflated the value of its gold reserves to get into the euro," he said.

In 1960, Germany paid Greece about 115 million deutschemarks to compensate victims of Nazi persecution. However, some Greek pressure groups say this did not cover civilian victims of reprisals and a forced occupation loan.

Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou refrained from joining the attack on Germany.

"We all have our criticism as to how public opinion in one or the other country perceives the Greek problem," he said during the debate.

He added that New Democracy, which is allied with Merkel's Christian Democrats in the European People's Party, should have addressed any criticism to Germany while it was in government until last October.
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Greek Government Bashes Germany, asks for WW2 money
Thursday, 18 February 2010
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/12524/1/

You know you are in financial trouble when you go back to WW2 and ask Germany for 'war damages'. As irony would have it, Greece is asking for 'war money' from the country which essentially created Greece in 1835.
Greek opposition lawmakers said on Thursday that Germans should pay reparations for their World War Two occupation of Greece before criticising the country over its yawning fiscal deficits.
"How does Germany have the cheek to denounce us over our finances when it has still not paid compensation for Greece's war victims?" Margaritis Tzimas, of the main opposition New Democracy party, told parliament.
"There are still Greeks weeping for their lost brothers," the conservative lawmaker said during a debate on a bill to clean up the country's discredited statistical service. This type of silly rhetoric will only further frustrate the Germans who have poured billions into Greece for the past 20 years.
to help Athens could threaten the euro.

Merkel's stance is backed by opinion polls showing that a vast majority of Germans oppose a bailout, and Germany's biggest selling daily Bild has lambasted Greece as a nation of lazy cheats who should be "thrown out of the euro on their ear".

But Greek lawmakers from three left-wing and conservative opposition parties said Germans had no right to claim the moral high ground.

Six deputies from the small Left Coalition party urged the government to press Berlin over the reparations issue and blamed German banks and politicians for Greece's crisis.

"By their statements, German politicians and German financial institutions play a leading role in a wretched game of profiteering at the expense of the Greek people," they said in a written question to the government.

Responding to criticism that Greece fiddled its figures to get into the euro in 2001, communist MP Nikos Papaconstantinou asserted that Germany was not above using such tricks itself.

"As if we didn't know that Germany inflated the value of its gold reserves to get into the euro," he said.

In 1960, Germany paid Greece about 115 million deutschemarks to compensate victims of Nazi persecution. However, some Greek pressure groups say this did not cover civilian victims of reprisals and a forced occupation loan.

Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou refrained from joining the attack on Germany.

"We all have our criticism as to how public opinion in one or the other country perceives the Greek problem," he said during the debate.

He added that New Democracy, which is allied with Merkel's Christian Democrats in the European People's Party, should have addressed any criticism to Germany while it was in government until last October.
This is a clasic. I think it deserves its own thread.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:18 PM   #96
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This is good, I hope as much Germans as possible read what Germany and England's love child (Greece) is saying about them now.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:26 PM   #97
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Has any one got the bill to see how much Greece owes the Macedonians in damages?
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Old 02-19-2010, 11:23 PM   #98
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Партиска контрола на СДСМ врз Вест, Утрински и Дневник!

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Документите со кои ВЕЧЕР располага, велат дека не било така како што јавноста била известена: дека германската корпорација ВАЦ дошла, и ги купила весниците и печатницата, што нели - беше поздравено во јавноста.

Документите го велат следното:
Сопственик на МЕДИА ПРИНТ не е германски ВАЦ. Според регистарските документи, фирмата МЕДИА ПРИНТ Скопје (ЕМБС:5807913) е во приватна сопственост, основана од фирмите КРУГ ДООЕЛ Скопје (оснивачки капитал 1.237 евра), од Графички центар (оснивачки капитал 775 евра) и фирмата ОГЛЕДАЛО Скопје (основачки капитал 487 евра).
Како што се гледа, германски ВАЦ го нема никаде меѓу основачите.
Се на се, големиот МЕДИА ПРИНТ има основачки капитал од дури 2.500 евра! Тоа е големата инвестиција на Бодо Хомбах во Македонија!

Фирмата ОГЛЕДАЛО (ЕМБС 5412684), која е соосновач на МЕДИА ПРИНТ, е сопственост на неколку субјекти, од кои ниту еден не е германски ВАЦ. Имено, за сопственици на МЕДИА ПРИНТ се наведени: нам непознато лице Дончо Мирчев, основач со капитал од само 100 евра! По него, соосновачи се и сегашниот главен уредник на Вест Горан Михајловски кој се потрошил, и во МЕДИА ПРИНТ вложил дури 150 евра (9.300 денари основачки капитал!). По него, соосновач на ОГЛЕДАЛО е компанијата ФЕРШПЕД, со значително поголем удел, влог од дури 23.300 денари, или помалку од 390 евра. Најпосле, соосновач е и ОСТ Холдинг од Виена, со влог од 116.650 денари или околу 1.900 евра.
Се на се, инвестицијата во ОГЛЕДАЛО е вкупно 2.550 евра!

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http://www.vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=2038...00FA7393304F4A
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Greece broadens process to language and passports, name process unpredictable - analyst


Washington, February 25 (MIA) - It is difficult to foresee what will happen in the name negotiations due to the broadened range of requirements by Greece, claims Sally McNamara, Senior Policy Analyst in European Affairs at the Washington-based Heritage Foundation.

"If it was just about the name issue, maybe we could see the end. However, the Greeks have broadened the problem to the language, passports and all kinds of things. Pressure must be put on Greece, so that they stop acting as if they want to solve the dispute", says McNamara in an interview with Voice of America in Macedonian Language.

According to her, Greece is currently under EU pressure due to its economic woes, which is another reason why Athens should close the name problem, in the interest of regional security.

"I think it is time someone stepped in and told Greece 'now you are in a situation needing European assistance due to the domestic economic situation and the mounting pressure'. Greece is currently supported by Europe and should lend a hand to others. Negotiations can resume with Macedonia as part of NATO. The row between the two countries is not unsolvable", assesses the analyst.

McNamara says it is time Greece acted with more responsibility towards Macedonia.

"They have blocked Macedonia's EU perspective too. You cannot hold the entire world hostage because of a dispute regarding an issue, which can be bilaterally settled, with Macedonia in the Alliance", she adds.

The Heritage Foundation analyst believes that the impasse could be overcome if someone from Washington or Berlin told Athens 'we help you, help us too', because this is an issue of regional security, NATO as a whole, not only Greece.

"It is also a matter of Macedonians sharing membership expenditures, but not enjoying the benefits. They take part in Afghanistan and the Balkans, something they will continue to do in the future", concludes McNamara.
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German Humor enrages Greece
Tuesday, 23 February 2010

Greece's Foreign Ministry has called the German Ambassador in Athens for discussion after an article in German magazine Focus hurt Greek's feelings.

Interestingly enough, the Greeks don't seem to mind the negative write up in the magazine, rather concentrate on Focus' magazine cover where a what appears to be half naked Venus (the goddess of Love) sculpture wrapped in blue and white flag gives the finger. The German magazine devoted its weekly magazine to Greece, with the title "The Liars in the Euro Family"

Greek parliament members speaking to Athens media claimed the Germans must be careful what they say about their country because the Balkan nation is one of the top buyers of German weaponry. Though word has gotten out of German manufacturer (HDW) that Greece is the last country they would sell weapons because they still haven't collected money for the submarines they shipped few years ago.

Western humor and freedom of speech remains a thorn issue for inter state tensions. Recently several European countries and Germany in particular have been on the offensive against Athens due to their debt problems.

But as our MINA analyst Gorazd Velkovski says, EU has a hidden agenda and are using the Balkan nation's debt problem for much more sinister plans. More on that later.
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