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![]() Minor clashes being reported in Niksic, Montenegro between police and ethnic Serb demonstrators.
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![]() Interesting development.
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![]() Footage from Zeta (Montenegro) - Dec 29, 2019 - Serb protesters attack police:
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![]() Montenegrins brutally beat young Serb in Podgorica - Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0_TXLTerE Marko Milacic Reveals Identity of Beaten Young Man: High School Graduate still in hospital: http://engnews24h.com/marko-milacic-...spital-region/ The young man who was brutally beaten on the street in Podgorica last night is Josif Vukicevic, a high school graduate in Danilovgrad. This information was posted on his Facebook profile by Montenegrin leader Marko Milacic. Milacic says the beaten Vukicevic lives under Ostrog and reports that the injured student is still in hospital. Last edited by Carlin; 01-31-2020 at 01:40 AM. |
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![]() https://balkaninsight.com/2020/07/23...ntenegro-vote/
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![]() Bosniaks in Montenegro live in 'fear, anxiety' following election
Bosniak minority has been targeted in series of attacks after election ends in a new majority dominated by nationalists. by Mersiha Gadzo Full article - URL: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...142818047.html 5 Sept 2020 Bosniak citizens of Montenegro say fear and anxiety pervades their communities after a series of attacks and vandalism targeted the minority population following the country's parliamentary election, which ushered in a new majority government dominated by right-wing nationalists. The intense election campaign pitted President Milo Djukanovic's pro-Western Democratic Party of Socialists (DPS) against the right-wing "For the Future of Montenegro" (ZBCG) bloc, comprised mainly of Serb nationalist parties that seek closer ties with Belgrade and Moscow. ZBCG, combined with two other opposition alliances, achieved a razor-thin majority grabbing 41 out of 81 seats in parliament, bringing the DPS rule to an end after leading the NATO-member country for 30 years. The campaign largely focused on a dispute over a law on religious rights introduced in late 2019, staunchly opposed by the Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC). The SPC argued the law allows the state to confiscate its property in order to set up a separate church, sparking protests over the last 10 months supported by the opposition. The government has denied the allegation. Attacks and provocations against Bosniaks began as soon as exit poll results were released last Sunday and opposition supporters began celebrating on the streets. Bosniaks are the third largest ethnic group in the small Adriatic nation of 622,000 after Montenegrins and Serbs. Two Bosniaks, a young man and his father, were attacked at a cafe in the city centre of Pljevlja on Sunday evening. Abid Sabanovic, 22, from the town of Pljevlja told Al Jazeera some far-right supporters drove through Bosniak neighbourhoods with the sole aim of provoking residents there. "These parts of the city aren't situated on the main roads so there was no reason to go there," Sabanovic said, adding the supporters were singing ultranationalist Chetnik songs about Draza Mihajlovic - a World War II-era Chetnik Serb figure . "Such lyrics have nothing to do with the election, rather they represent an expression of nationalism," Sabanovic said, adding there is "fear, anxiety" among Bosniaks. Mihajlovic was the leader of the Serb nationalist Chetnik movement, many members of which collaborated with Nazi forces. According to historians, Chetnik forces killed tens of thousands of Bosniaks, Croats and other non-Serbs in the former Yugoslavia. History repeated itself in the early 1990s when Serb forces identifying with the Chetnik movement committed genocide and war crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina, killing Bosniaks and Croats to make way for a Greater Serbia. Bosniaks in neighbouring Pljevelja, situated 40km east of the Bosnian border, were not exempt from violence either. In 1992, with the outbreak of war in neighbouring Bosnia, authorities persecuted and killed Bosniaks in and around Pljevlja. By July of that year, more than a dozen Bosniak villages near Pljevlja were "ethnically-cleansed", and in September a series of 27 explosions targeted Bosniak stores and homes. Mosques were destroyed. "It's not surprising [they were singing ultranationalist songs] considering that both the SPC and the leading opposition party nurture ultranationalism and the Chetnikism," Sabanovic said. |
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![]() To be honest, I haven't really bothered to acquaint myself with the political situation in Montenegro...it just doesn't interest me. However, since we're discussing them, does anyone really know how the Crnogorci feel about their national identity? I mean, do they actually have a strong sense of separate Montenegrin identity or do they consider themselves to be merely little Serbs?
With regard to their recent elections, YouTube recommended the following short video for me. It's pretty impressive and the narrative seems to be a win for the Orthodox faithful over the long ruling atheist / leftist Government. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH-lrRraJGA |
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![]() There are plenty of Montenegrins who espouse an identity separate from the Serbs and Montenegro has enough of a distinct history to classify its people as a separate nation. That there are many who also have a Serb identity has a lot to do with the stranglehold over the churches in Montenegro which is maintained by the Serbian Orthodox Church. Another problem is that those wishing to promote the individualism of the Montenegrin Orthodox Church are inevitably (and unfortunately) linked to Djukanovic and his cronies. So, whilst these elections may be perceived as a win for Orthodoxy in some respects because it is a clear sign that people don't want religious property transferred to the state, it can also be perceived as a loss by Montenegrins because it means many people would rather the Serbian Orthodox Church retain ownership instead. Perhaps the association of the Montengrin Orthodox Church with corrupt elements has hindered its chances to win the hearts and minds of the people. In any case, right or wrong, today's Orthodox churches are connected with national identities and as such the churches in Montenegro should be under the sway of an untainted Montenegrin Orthodox Church. It may have been different were it not for all of the politics in the Orthodox world.
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![]() The Orthodox population of Montenegro is broadly split into two segments:
- Those who have a strong and separate sense of Montenegrin identity (completely separate/different historically from ethnic Serbs). - Those who identify themselves as ethnic Serbs and refer to all of Montenegro as "Serbian Sparta". At worst, they consider those who identify themselves as ethnic Montenegrins as a pseudo-scientific and pseudo-historical notion/construct and don't recognize the existence of such a group at any level. At best, they consider Montenegrins to be misguided and "brainwashed" Serbs. Some Serbs consider the "process of invention" of the Montenegrin separate identity as identical to what took place in Macedonia and "De-Serbianization of Macedonians". There is also the church issue and conflict. The ethnic Serbs, but also many/some ethnic Montenegrins actually belong to the powerful Serbian Orthodox Church headed by the ultranationalist Amfilohije Radović (he has been known to have a pretty intransigent and nationalist stance against the Macedonian church; ethnic Montenegrins consider him to be a "sworn enemy of Montenegro".) The ethnic Montenegrins are members of the uncanonical Montenegrin Orthodox Church. Although the church situation in Montenegro is different than in Macedonia - much like the Macedonian case - the Serbian church will forever use its position and status within the Orthodox world to block and recognize the existence of a separate Montenegrin church. With regard to their recent elections that Karposh mentioned, the "win" for the Orthodox faithful over the long "ruling atheist / leftist Government" is actually a win for Amfilohije and the Serbian Orthodox Church over the government of Milo Djukanovic. The ethnic (Orthodox) Montenegrins would not consider this a win "for the Orthodox faithful" but rather a devastating loss. The Serbian political parties have been clamoring to change the state flag and anthem but it looks like that won't happen any time soon (they basically want to "reinstate the Serbian tricolor variant" as the state flag of Montenegro). According to the most recent census, Montenegrins constitute 45% of the population of Montenegro while the Serbs are at (almost) 29% mark. However (confusingly), according to the most recent language statistics from 2011, 42.88% of the population declared Serbian as their language while 36.97% of the population declared Montenegrin as their language. To further complicate and confuse matters, according to the language statistics there are people who speak "Bosanski/Bosnian" and "Boshnjacki/Bosniak" which are counted and classified as separate entries/languages. URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contro..._in_Montenegro |
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