Proof so called "Greek's" are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's).

[Makedonec69]

First president of Gayreece (Hell Ass) was a
Shiptare called "Gjeorgjio Kountouriotis".

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgios_Kountouriotis

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1111

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2009/...albanian-1824/

Proof the national dress of the Gayreek Gypsies
from Gayreece (Hell Ass) is Shiptare (Albanian).

wiki.phantis.com/index.php/Fustanella

Their national Skull Hat if Gayreece (Hell Ass) is
Shiptare (Albanian).

m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fw atch%3Fv%3DpgKaTO63JW8%26feature%3Dfvst&feature=fv st&v=pgKaTO63JW8&gl=US

The national Folklore of Gayreece (Hell Ass) is
Shiptare.

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&rl=yes&feature=related&v=tIzQDI0PW1o

Proof the Parthenon was used as a Mosque.

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=768

The Gayreek Gypsies are not a pure race cause
they exchanged their people with Christian Turk's
who wanted to be Gayreek Gypsies with Muslim
Gayreek Gypsies who wanted to be Turk's during
the Ottoman Empire times.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...ece-and-Turkey

http://global-4-lvs-colossus.opera-m...20Exchange.pdf

The flag of Gayreece (Hell Ass) is the same
flag as the English/Indian Colony Flag.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company#Flags

Greek flag.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Greece.svg

'Greece' was thus >>>----> INVENTED as a
backdrop to contemporary European art and
imagination, a historical precursor of many
Disneylands to come.' THE INVENTION of fantastical modern 'Greece"
demanded that its people also remained
IMAGINARY.
('Modern Greece built on myth' by GEORGE
ZAKARDAKIS.The Washington Post, Nov.12, 2011)

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/...built-on-myth/

Greece had a German king called King Otto but when he went to Greece, all he saw was Shiptari and said, and I quote: "Where are all the Greek's?, There are just Shiptari here".

King Otto of Greece.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_of_Greece

More so called "Greek's" of Shiptare origin.

m.youtube.com/watch?rl=yes&v=38sZgTjELQo&gl=US&guid=&client=mv-google&hl=en

More proof so called "Greek's" are "TurkoShiptari".

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=0X9a_Z-bT3I&desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwa tch%3Fv%3D0X9a_Z-bT3I&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fdesktop_uri%3Dhttp%253 A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com%252Fwatch%253Fv%253D0X9 a_Z-bT3I%26v%3D0X9a_Z-bT3I%26gl%3DUS

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=D_9uS7lCXW4&hl=en&client=mv-google&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fgl%3DUS%26hl%3Den%26 client%3Dmv-google%26v%3DD_9uS7lCXW4

m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHhLXRgIgw&fulldescription=1&hl=en&gl=US& guid=&client=mv-google

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&gl=US&desktop_uri=http%3A%2F %2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DY21o2RDKaDI%26fea ture%3Drelated&v=Y21o2RDKaDI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch% 3Fdesktop_uri%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com %252Fwatch%253Fv%253DY21o2RDKaDI%2526feature%253Dr elated%26feature%3Drelated%26v%3DY21o2RDKaDI%26gl% 3DUS

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=W2qtgf5xMwg&fulldescription=1&deskt op_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fgl%3DUS%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dmv-google%26v%3DW2qtgf5xMwg%26fulldescription%3D1

[Makedonec69]

The truth hurts for the TurkoShiptare (TurkoAlbanian) fake Gayreek Gypsies so spam this everywhere and spread the truth.

[Makedonec69]

Makedonija za zivot!

[George S.]

Seeing that the shiptare's are doing all this work supporting & propping Greece,when is their reward coming like rights of minorities in Greece or are they happy bunch of cocunuts with their lot in life.

[Makedonec69]

I guess the Gayreek Gypsies screwed them there, all of them live in Epirus and took the northern part of it over and is like the town Tetovo in Republic Of Macedonia, town full of Shiptari.

[TrueMacedonian]

Not all of them were/are "TurkoShiptari" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgari

[Gocka]

Originally Posted by Makedonec69

I guess the Gayreek Gypsies screwed them there, all of them live in Epirus and took the northern part of it over and is like the town Tetovo in Republic Of Macedonia, town full of Shiptari.

Seriously man whats your problem? How can you be so ignorant!!!

They are not turks and gypsies, they are also Macedonians, Bulgarians, Vlachs, Albanians, as well as Turks, Gypsies, Romanians, Armenians and a slew of middle eastern and African migrants.

Its like a a giant Mandza of people.

[Redsun]

Like a multicultural country such as Australia, but without the cultural tolerance. Cant express your culture, must pretend to be greek.

[Makedonec69]

I ain't ignorant, you can't ignore the truth in the facts that I posted to you's that Greek's are TurkoShiptari (TurkoAlbanian's) beh.


According to historians, authors, statesmen,
academics etc, modern Greeks
spoke Albanian before the masses of population
began to learn their new
language called Greek. Although, there were many
different languages at the turn of 1800-century and actually well into 1900- century. We know why the
Greek state began a major build out of state schools
in the
second half of 1800-century. During this period the
newly formed state realized that it had to educate
and teach the large masses of how to speak Greek. This fact is also reflected by what it meant to be
"Greek"
at the time of
independence. You would think that speaking a
language called Greek would be a qualification,
but this was NOT the case. Instead, all it took to be qualified as "Greek" was to
be a Christian believer. This was written in the
constitution itself. The state did not consider
language as part of the identity as they knew that
the big masses
of people did not speak "Greek". Had the big masses of people spoken "Greek",
then there would
not be a massive build out of state schools to teach
people
"Greek". Here below we can see what historians and
professors are saying.========= "The Usable Past" - 2003 By
K.S Brown & Professor
Yannis Hamilakis Page
140: "..As a result of a number of historical factors,
much of the rural population in
central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern
Greek state in the 1830s" ========== "ALBANIA
- The Rise of a Kingdom"
By J.Swire - 1971 Page 11: "...In an article in the
Greek monthly magazine, Parnassos - February
1916, it is stated that "the majority of our soldiers speak
to one another in the Albanian language....a very
deplorable
habit.....It is expedient that this habit be destroyed
by all necessary and
vigorous means". Prince Lichonowsky wrote: "the so-called Greek national dess itself is of Albanian
orgin".=========
VENIZELOS (Famous
Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920,
1932) By Herbert Adams
Gibbons, Ph.D [At The Peace Conferance] Page 346: "...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of
national consciousness as
the test
of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to
raise the objection that a
substantial portion of the Greek population uses Albanian as its mother tongue, and is,
consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"
========== The Empty Cradle of
Democracy Alexandra Halkias Page 59: "...Through
the end of the revolution in 1830,
Greeks, including most of the nineteenth-century nationalists, seemed to have had
a vague but firm sense of continuity from ancient to
modern Greece, though
this was not articulated in
racial terms but on the basis of a common
language, history and consciousness. In effect at this time, whoever
called themselves a Greek was a Greek. It is
because of this that many Greek-
speaking
Albanians, Slavs,
Rumanians and Vlachs were easily assimilated and indeed became important players in Greek
patriotism at the time.”
========== POLITICS IN MODERN GREECE
By Professor Keith R. Legg Page 86:
LANGUAGE "..At the time of independence, the
range in local dialects was significant; substantial portions of the population spoke
Albanian" ==========
New York Times - June 2009 Nikos Dimou “.....We
used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans,
but then
Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us,‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants
of Plato and
Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has
such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never
recover".

William ST. Clair
“That Greece Might Still Be Free” Oxford
University
Press – 1972 Page 232:
“..It was probably at this time
(independence) that the Albanian dress made its, decisive step towards being regarded as the
national dress of Greece. The Government
party, being largely Albanians
themselves, favoured the dress and
a version of it was common among the Greek
“klephts” and “armatoli”. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim
to be a soldier
and share in the bonanza”========= You all
read that? The
GOVERNMENT
party, being largely Albanians themseleves....====== "Modern
Greece A Short History" C.M. Woodhouse Page 163
"....It is a striking fact that the leading defenders of
Greek liberty at this time were largely Non-
Greek. Koundouriotis was decended from the
Albanian invadors of Greece in the 14th century...One
of the few leaders who maintained resistance far to
the north of the Gulf of Corinth
was
the Souliote,Marko Botsaris,whos followers were
largely Albanian" ========== You all read that? Defenders of Greek liberty
were LARGELY
NON- Greek.

[Sweet Sixteen]

I'll just give you a motive. I will take the challenge and answer that (yes, ALL of that) if you DO bother to re-edit it properly so that it is readable. Delete the un-necessary ENTERs, leave paragraphs and provide references so that we know if an author refers to the text above or below him, insert active links properly and mostly CHECK first what you copy-paste.

You SHOULD bother to have some respect for the readers .Did you really check these YouTube videos? They are very poorly made and have NO VISUAL content. Can you read what I write? Can we contact through texts? Or do you think I should put it in a YouTube video where text appears slowly (within 10 minutes) while we can listen to the music?

Lastly, is there a point in having the EXACT SAME debate in 10 different threads? Shouldn’t you wonder if you have something new to add, and then add it in a relevant thread?