Edinstveni Makedonski Zborovi - Unique Macedonian Words (postable)

Risto the Great · 02-28-2009, 09:11 PM

I have closed the original thread so that the words feature prominently.
Words can be discussed here or any other place on the forum.

Hope you don't mind SoM.

Akni (Slam, Hit)
Barai (Seek)
Bendisa (Fancy)
Chupe (Girl)
Dzunitsa (Rainbow)
Glushets/Glufets (Mouse)
Kandisa (Convince, Consent)
Kalesh (Tanned)
Kinisa (Go)
Rika (Shreik)
Sardisa (Surround)
Udisa (Go along with)

Soldier of Macedon · 02-28-2009, 09:17 PM

Not at all, good idea.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-28-2009, 09:47 PM

Go bendisam chupeto kalesho, da e kandisash za mene, spolaiti.

It would be safe to say that, apart from a couple of words to make up the sentence, a Slavic-speaker from Bulgaria and Serbia to Slovenia, Poland and Russia, would not have a clue what the above means.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-28-2009, 09:59 PM

How about the word PULI, do the Bulgars or Serbs use it? (Torlak and Shop dialects obviously excluded). In Croatian, there is "buljiti" which means to 'stare', it seems pretty close? The difficulty with determining the origin of such words comes from the overlapping of the dialects during various periods in history. Macedonia was under Serb rule during the time of Stefan Dushan, but before that, Serbia was, in the context of an East Roman theme, under the influence of Skopje (capital of theme) and Ohrid (archbishopric), so it is difficult to say where some words originally come from.

What about the word BARAI, is this also a unique Macedonian word meaning to 'look for' or 'seek'?

Rogi · 02-28-2009, 10:39 PM

I've very glad this thread was started and is going the right way, especially with locking the thread with the list of words. I tried to start the same thread on maknews once upon a time and it went the way of every other thread... a discussion on Macedonian identity, followed by ancient history, followed by god knows what...

Soldier of Macedon · 03-01-2009, 03:35 AM

If you know of any Rogi, or if you have a list already compiled, feel free to share.

MapleLeaf1 · 03-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Here are some words that I found that we use in Lerinsko or around my village Klabuchist(ch)a:

Skorni-boots
shmerk-hose
kadri-pictures
kurtul-potato
futa-apron
stis-wall
dzrdzala-eyeglasses
sidor-iron for ironing clothes
plachki-clothes
patoritsa-cane
noshja-night

thats a few for now

Risto the Great · 03-01-2009, 03:38 PM

sidor ... I think the Greeks might try to claim it but it may be Turkish.
stis ... is there any other word for it

it probably represents a construction method for pressed mud bricks.
plachki ... do you think it comes from oblechai si ?
patoritsa is the only one I have not heard, but makes sense.

MapleLeaf1 · 03-01-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

sidor ... I think the Greeks might try to claim it but it may be Turkish.
stis ... is there any other word for it

it probably represents a construction method for pressed mud bricks.
plachki ... do you think it comes from oblechai si ?
patoritsa is the only one I have not heard, but makes sense.

RTG, here's my guess on the words,
stis- da stisnish an area or room with walls
plachki- from pletano
patoritsa- da odish po pat
As for sidor, do you use it?, someone once told me it was only used by a few Lerinci villages, and its probably Turkish/greek?

Rogi · 03-01-2009, 05:48 PM

I have a cousin named Sidor. His father is from Ohrid and mother from Prilepsko.

So if it's not Macedonian in origin, then it's likely Turkish.

02-28-2009, 09:11 PM	#1
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,640	Edinstveni Makedonski Zborovi - Unique Macedonian Words (postable) I have closed the original thread so that the words feature prominently. Words can be discussed here or any other place on the forum. Hope you don't mind SoM. Akni (Slam, Hit) Barai (Seek) Bendisa (Fancy) Chupe (Girl) Dzunitsa (Rainbow) Glushets/Glufets (Mouse) Kandisa (Convince, Consent) Kalesh (Tanned) Kinisa (Go) Rika (Shreik) Sardisa (Surround) Udisa (Go along with) __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

02-28-2009, 09:17 PM	#2
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Not at all, good idea. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-28-2009, 09:47 PM	#3
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	*Go bendisam chupeto kalesho, da e kandisash za mene, spolaiti.* It would be safe to say that, apart from a couple of words to make up the sentence, a Slavic-speaker from Bulgaria and Serbia to Slovenia, Poland and Russia, would not have a clue what the above means. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-28-2009, 09:59 PM	#4
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	How about the word PULI, do the Bulgars or Serbs use it? (Torlak and Shop dialects obviously excluded). In Croatian, there is "buljiti" which means to 'stare', it seems pretty close? The difficulty with determining the origin of such words comes from the overlapping of the dialects during various periods in history. Macedonia was under Serb rule during the time of Stefan Dushan, but before that, Serbia was, in the context of an East Roman theme, under the influence of Skopje (capital of theme) and Ohrid (archbishopric), so it is difficult to say where some words originally come from. What about the word BARAI, is this also a unique Macedonian word meaning to 'look for' or 'seek'? __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

03-01-2009, 03:35 AM	#6
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	If you know of any Rogi, or if you have a list already compiled, feel free to share. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-28-2009, 10:39 PM	#5
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	I've very glad this thread was started and is going the right way, especially with locking the thread with the list of words. I tried to start the same thread on maknews once upon a time and it went the way of every other thread... a discussion on Macedonian identity, followed by ancient history, followed by god knows what...

03-01-2009, 01:04 PM	#7
MapleLeaf1 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 114	Here are some words that I found that we use in Lerinsko or around my village Klabuchist(ch)a: Skorni-boots shmerk-hose kadri-pictures kurtul-potato futa-apron stis-wall dzrdzala-eyeglasses sidor-iron for ironing clothes plachki-clothes patoritsa-cane noshja-night thats a few for now

03-01-2009, 03:38 PM	#8
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,640	sidor ... I think the Greeks might try to claim it but it may be Turkish. stis ... is there any other word for it it probably represents a construction method for pressed mud bricks. plachki ... do you think it comes from oblechai si ? patoritsa is the only one I have not heard, but makes sense. __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

03-01-2009, 05:48 PM	#10
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	I have a cousin named Sidor. His father is from Ohrid and mother from Prilepsko. So if it's not Macedonian in origin, then it's likely Turkish.

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