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Old 03-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #51
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Has the Macedonian government raised this as a serious diplomatic issue? I hate it how our politicians just sit on their hands in these situations. We need statements immediately, as well as letters of protest to Greece, their masters in Berlin and Brussels.
they're too afraid to....... and the name negotiations continue

and the western media will continue to write:
"greece considers fyrom's name offensive and irredentist attempt to gain land"

"fyrom offended greece by renaming airports after their national hero alexander the great"

"greece veto fyrom's admission into nato in 2008 because of its name"

"greece stands willing to compromise and supports fyrom's integration into nato and the eu"

and we all sit and cry on macedonian forums that the west is out to get us......while dmpne and sdsm cower to brussels even to the point to placate athens
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:14 PM   #52
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The army is part of the government and should reflect government policy and hence parades on national holidays are rehearsed and planned and this is not an isolated incident hence directly implicating the government and as Greece is part of the eu it implicates them. What measures have they put in place to prevent such occurrences. Calling for the death and destruction by an eu member on a potential member is not on regardless of the name issue. It is indefensible regardless of statues or naming of airports ect and this point should be made strongly to the eu. Someone making you fell stupid by calling themselves the same name as you in the playground is no excuse for chasing them around the yard with a knife let alone repeatedly. The teacher cannot maintain the moral high ground and at the same time and say well by calling yourself the same name you made them angry what can we do. Then its even equally if not more so inexcusable for the parent of the kid to say at least he didnít get you with the knife and maybe we better not complain to the school in case it gets the bully angry again.
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:00 PM   #53
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Over the weekend His Holiness Erwan Fouťrť got drunk and allowed a protest note for those who "doesn't want to comment too much ".
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:54 PM   #54
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Still we wait for a Goverment Response, quickly the opp will vanish.
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:38 PM   #55
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To all who have posted on this issue, thank you and I agree with most if not all your sentiments!
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You are so correct - this is an opportunity to expose the true racists to the whole world. The best way is to make an international incident out of it - the ROM Govt. should be jumping on this with both hands and reminding the EU, NATO & UN about fostering good neighbouring relations, which they all advocate we should be doing, so what about the Racist Pigs? aren't they required to contribute to good relations? or is this just another imposition on the Macedonians and not applicable to anyone else?
We should all be sending the President an email about our outrage and demand they take the appropriate action. I believe there is a section on the MTO dedicated to the President's/Prime Ministers mailbox, let's all hop on and leave a message or better still start a facebook page and invite them to join!
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:18 PM   #56
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western europe is where modern racism both the theory and practice were invented to justify the slave trade, lest not think that the ruling classes who made their fortune in that most shameful period in world history have changed they havent.
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:26 PM   #57
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Volk, There is an anti fascist protest in Stari Kraj on 9th of April infront of the Greek Consulate in Skopje. Im guessing they are thinking about the Embassy or the old Greek Consulate.

ПРОТЕСТ ПРЕД ГРЧКИОТ КОНЗУЛАТ ВО СКОПЈЕ - ПЕТОК 9 АПРИЛ

ВЏАШЕНИ ОД ФАШИСТИЧКИОТ МАРШ НА ГРЧКАТА ВОЈСКА ВО АТИНА . КОАЛИЦИЈАТА МАНАПО ПЛАНИРА МИРЕН ПРОТЕСТ ПРЕД ГРЧКИОТ КОНЗУЛАТ ВО СКОПЈЕ - ПЕТОК 9 АПРИЛ 2010 ОД 20 часот - СО НАСЛОВ ,, СТОП НА ГРЧКИОТ ФАШИЗАМ ,,.
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:38 AM   #58
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...9160666&ref=mf

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...2924350&ref=mf

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...2100122&ref=mf

What have the diaspora organisations got to say?
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:02 AM   #59
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Here is what Neos Kosmos has to say on the issue:

http://translate.google.com/translat...om%2Fnews%2Fel

Hate Parade

28 Mar 2010
"Greek born, not 't ever, your blood will chysoume, hog Albania." This and similar creepy heard in downtown Athens, not by members of the "Golden Dawn" demonstrators, but by frogman Special Forces who paraded to the University and St. Constantine in the official military parade on 25 March.
As soon as they left the docks at the official Constitution and turned the University of the lads OYK turned the parade in an event reminiscent of right-wing hate progress, with slogans promising a bloody slaughter every neighborhood in Greece and the people decide who qualifies and who called Greek no.
The usual suspects "Macedonians, Albanians and Turks had their honor in slogans like the following:" There will be carnage, then revenge, when we worship the flag and cross.
Or that creepy: "They say" Skopje ", the Albanians say, my clothes will sew with skin 'of them.
One of them was going comfortably between the viewers and those who paraded, first shouting the slogans repeated by the commandos.
And they watched the parade and dozens of immigrant families, which will then be asked to answer the reasonable questions of their children "Why so much hate?". As if not the House recently passed the Law on the performance of citizenship to immigrants. As if it has not decided a long time in this country that immigrants may participate in these student parades, especially as standard-bearers.
One wonders: How can the Greek army, marching formally drawn to the city center, to challenge our humanity, outlining the country and to blatantly violate the anti-racist law designed to automatically prosecute hate speech? We live in 2010, and even with government socialists, or ALISTON memory seasons, where the military claimed and had another role in the affairs of the country?
AVAILABILITY OF A HEAD
The Coast Guard owned, ultimately, total 36 frogman who, during the parade celebrating the national holiday of March 25 in the Constitution inadmissible rhythmically chanted slogans
I had to spend many hours to find the senior officers of the Coast Guard, which early in the morning and see you again saw the video of shame, that "Ellinarades" frogman was theirs and belonged to the unit underwater missions, located in Agios Kosmas.
By late afternoon, the responsible officers of the MYA, but the team leader, who chanted slogans insulting the soon departed from the platform of the official, assured both the chief of the OS, Thanasis Bousio vice admiral, and the Minister Protection of the Citizen Michael ChrisochoÔdis that had nothing to do with the Coast Guard, but the Navy and especially with the Underwater Demolition Team.
While near-war to break out internal government, as Minister in the Ministry of Defense and YPROPO not accept that the frogman who chanted racist slogans were their own, thorough and ongoing examination of the video, and information from within, showed that the 36 "Leventis" frogman unit belonging to underwater missions of the Coast Guard, which, as expected, "took off his clothes' as the head of the Port Authority and the Secretary of Citizen Protection, responsible for the ML . S., Michael ChrisochoÔdis.
By order of the chief, Vice Admiral Thanasis Bousiou came into immediate availability of the commanding officer of a racist group of uniformed, second officer OS, K. Haralambopoulos, which noted, is "frog" and ordered an urgent and sworn administrative investigation to responsibilities to seek the 36 frogman, while not excluding the reference to the Military Justice.
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:23 AM   #60
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YouTube - GreQit, Shqiptareve do tjua Derdhim Gjakun!

1.Грк се раѓаш не бидуваш , твојата крв ке ја пролееме , свињо албанска.

2. Ке биде кланица , ке се одмаздиме , се додека не верувате во црквата и крстот. ( за турците)

3. Ги викаат Скопјани , ги викаат албанци , моите алишта ке ги шијам со нивната кожа.
At 1:08 a priest is shown shouting:

"min tous afis te mas vagane to Egeo"

which translates to;

"Don't leave them alone, they have eaten our Agean"
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