Macedonia scratching head with 140,000 Shadow Voters

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  • Prolet
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 5241

    Macedonia scratching head with 140,000 Shadow Voters

    So this is how SDSM and the Shiptar parties got extra seats, with dead people voting. Mameto Nivno

    Saturday, 19 June 2010

    After numerous irregularities in the master election list that exist since 2001, the Macedonian Government has sent field workers and try to identify what went 'wrong'.

    These 140,000 non existent 'voters' in effect are the deciding factor for 14 out of 120 members in Parliament. For instance, if it wasn't for these shadow voters, parties such as the LDP, DPA, NSDP, New Alternative will never see the day of light. The parties noted above combine for 14 parliament seats.

    Government field workers noted frequent irregularities with the deceased individuals. For example, in Gostivar more than 300 deceased people have the right to vote. Thousands of others were found to have two social security numbers, which is illegal. Government field workers also believes there are thousands of people living in Macedonia who do not hold Macedonian citizenship, but cast their vote come election time even though the law prohibits them from doing so.

    Eyebrows were raised during last national elections when 1.8 million votes were casted, even though Macedonia has 2.1 million population. According to the Macedonian election commission, the true number of voters hovers around 1.6 million, not more.

    Government officials are encouraging for a quick and elaborate clean up of the electoral voting list. Experts expect the new electoral list to be completed by the end of October.

    МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
  • fyrOM
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 2180

    #2
    Prolet that is huge. 140000 out of 2.1mil is 6.67 percent so if they claim to be 25 percent of the population to activate their privlages under their agreement this has huge ramifications. Do you know if the government has looked into facial recognition software. Being a country which issues id cards could they get everyone to show up for a photo and a new card. Check for any doubles. I have heard facial hair is no problem to the software and then lets see realy how many of them there are.

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    • Makedonetz
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1080

      #3
      Thats insane! and some low balling to use decese people as votes. I agree a new method to establish ID when voting is crucial.
      Makedoncite se borat
      za svoite pravdini!

      "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
      - Goce Delchev

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      • Rogi
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        Just on your suggestion, facial recognition technology has actually come quite a long way.
        If not for civil liberty and privacy concerns, which could be addressed if done properly, then facial recognition is a viable option worth considering.

        As for the topic, this is nothing new. We have known this for some time now and the same figures have been quoted before in other articles and on this forum.
        There is a strong political will among VMRO-DPMNE to sort this out, because in doing so, they are the greatest beneficiary.

        But they haven't come up with any real and concrete solutions yet. Or, they may be waiting for the next census figures so they have most recent population numbers, broken down by each electorate, which they can then use to compare with the master electoral roll and then work on reconciling the figures electorate by electorate.
        Last edited by Rogi; 06-20-2010, 08:03 AM.

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