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Old 06-14-2018, 07:42 AM   #101
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They should do another poll tomorrow...
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:51 AM   #102
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They should do another poll tomorrow...
You're assuming that the first poll was all above board...it wouldn't surprise me to see a few new polls in the days ahead...you know the ones, to gauge the peoples opinion on what has transpired...don't be surprised to see an overwhelming positive result...the corruption is palpable.
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You're assuming that the first poll was all above board...it wouldn't surprise me to see a few new polls in the days ahead...you know the ones, to gauge the peoples opinion on what has transpired...don't be surprised to see an overwhelming positive result...the corruption is palpable.
You're not wrong there Phoenix.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:15 AM   #104
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Phoenix, that's already happening - they're already stacking the TV shows with callers arguing in favour of a name change.
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Phoenix, that's already happening - they're already stacking the TV shows with callers arguing in favour of a name change.
Rogi, not sure if you were listening to ZZZ this arvo...they had an interesting talk back session of the events of the preceding 24 hours, to suggest people are really farken pissed off is an understatement of biblical proportions...I hope that Zaev the Traitor can find enough stooges to put that genie back in the bottle...
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20,000 Macedonians protest in front of Parliament, want traitor Zaev and his associates hanged

By Mark Abramoff - June 13, 2018

Over 20,000 Macedonians spontaneously gathered this evening in front of Parliament, sending strong messages to the treasonous Government junta led by Zaev. Protesters demanded the quisling junta not go against the will of the people, because that would escalate the situation in the country, and urged an immediate annulment of the agreement between Zaev and Tsipras, the same way they did it – over the phone. Protesters pledged to gather in front of Parliament until the abolition of the agreement and the withdrawal of the referendum decision!

The demonstrators gave strong support to President Gjorge Ivanov and told him that they would always be there along with him, in good and bad. They asked for a public hanging of Zoran Zaev, the illegitimate prime minister and traitor. Hangings were requested for Zaev’s associates as well. The protesters emphasized that the protest had people from all political parties and all ethnicities, asking no one to associate them with any political option.
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From a debate about a week ago on MRT1 (6.7.2020). Check at 1:36.35.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb3PYh17kpU

Zaev makes the following statement while staring at the camera and addressing the Macedonian public:
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.......the Greeks have translated [the works of] Blaze Koneski for the first time, the Prime Minister Mitsotakis, from a right-wing government, says "there is one North Macedonia, in which live Macedonians, they speak the Macedonian language".
Personally, I think Zaev just lied to the whole of Macedonia (not for the first time). But then again, Mitsotakis is known to backflip (see article below, for example) like most other Balkan politicians. So, who knows what those two morons tell each other behind closed doors after a few ouzos. The bigger point here is that Zaev is portraying this to the Macedonian public as some sort of open sentiment on the part of his new boyfriend(s) in the south, as if they suddenly respect Macedonians.
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At his first meeting with his Macedonian counterpart Zoran Zaev in New York, the new Prime Minister of Greece, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, said he would never have signed the historic 2018 deal with Macedonia – but would honour it nevertheless. During their meeting on the sidelines of the UN Climate Change Summit, Mitsotakis told Zaev that although he would not have signed the deal, he now felt bound to honour it. Greek government sources cited by the Athens-Macedonian News Agency on Tuesday said Mitsotakis said that since the UN brokered “name” deal had now been ratified by the Greek Parliament in January, it was part of international law and so the Greek government had to respect it. Mitsotakis’ center-right New Democracy party came to power in July this year after winning a landslide victory over former prime minister Alexis Tsipras and his leftist Syriza party. Before becoming PM, Mitsotakis was a staunch opponent of the deal approved by his predecessor, insisting that it would harm Greek national interests, as it recognised the existence of a Macedonian language and identity. He said that under his leadership, Greece would uphold its right to veto North Macedonia’s EU accession bid. For his part, Zaev said that North Macedonia planned to fully implement all the commitments arising from the name deal, hoping this would further improve bilateral business ties. Mitsotakis responded that, even before the deal was signed, the so-called name dispute had never hampered good economic relations. Athens and Skopje signed their landmark agreement in June 2018 on the shores of the Prespa lakes shared by Greece, North Macedonia and Albania. The deal ended a decades-long dispute over the name of Macedonia. Under the deal, the latter changed its name from Republic of Macedonia to Republic of North Macedonia. It also obligated itself to take further action to distinguish itself from the Greek northern province, also called Macedonia. In exchange, Greece promised to stop blocking its neighbour’s accession to NATO and the start of its EU membership talks. It also accepted that the identity of the majority population in the neighbouring country, and their language, is Macedonian. On Monday, Greek Defence Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos said his country would also go ahead with a treaty to protect North Macedonian airspace, despite what he called the negative effects of the “name” treaty. The plan for Greek jets to patrol the skies of North Macedonia once Skopje becomes a full NATO member, by the end of this year, or early next year, was not a direct part of the “name” deal but arose as a consequence of improved bilateral relations.
Apparently he was staunchly opposed during the campaign but accepted it once in power. I wonder if Mickoski will take the same path.
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Old 06-22-2021, 05:52 AM   #108
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From Republika today... I didn't know Zaev even discussed this with Ahmeti.

Ахмети: Се разговарало и за промена на грбот и знамето на Македонија, а нова химна е само „прашање на време“

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Претседателот на ДУИ Али Ахмети вчера во емисијата „Клан дебата“ откри дека со лидерот на СДСМ и коалиционен партнер Зоран Заев на маса веќе ги ставиле знамето и грбот на Македонија, а нова химна е само прашање на време.

Се разговарало и за химната и за грбот и за знамето. Овие се прашања за кои е потребен консензус, но ова повеќе ќе зависи од договор помеѓу Македонците. Што се однесува на химната, се разговарало и нема којзнае какво противење и тоа е повеќе прашање на време и мислам дека може да се разговара без резерви, рече Ахмети.
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Old 06-22-2021, 07:00 AM   #109
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Претседателот на ДУИ Али Ахмети вчера во емисијата „Клан дебата“ откри дека со лидерот на СДСМ и коалиционен партнер Зоран Заев на маса веќе ги ставиле знамето и грбот на Македонија, а нова химна е само прашање на време. Се разговарало и за химната и за грбот и за знамето. Овие се прашања за кои е потребен консензус, но ова повеќе ќе зависи од договор помеѓу Македонците. Што се однесува на химната, се разговарало и нема којзнае какво противење и тоа е повеќе прашање на време и мислам дека може да се разговара без резерви, рече Ахмети.
Carlin, I moved your post to this thread, which is more fitting given the subject. If there is any truth to this, Zaev would probably be upset at his Albanian master for revealing it publicly whilst he is currently trying to betray Macedonia to the steppe-nostalgic politicians in the east. He seems to prefer executing one betrayal at a time. Or perhaps he smells blood and wants to go for the sweepstakes, so he and his partners in crime are coordinating their efforts to test the waters among the population. In any case, I wouldn't put any of the above past them. Albanophone northadonians have called for changes to the coat of arms and anthem in the past. The flag seems like a new one though. Imagine watching Macedonians who think they're still patriots kicking up a fuss if a change is threatened against the northadonian flag? There is no limit to the irony.
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Zaev apologizes to Greeks for "Macedonian national football team" tweet.

North Macedonia PM says tweet was ‘mistake’

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The prime minister of North Macedonia has indicated that it was a “mistake” on his part to recently refer to his country’s national football team, which is participating in the European Championship 2020, as “Macedonia,” omitting the qualifier “North.”

“Sometimes, it’s normal to make mistakes, precisely in the Prespa Agreement. But I’m 46 years old. It’s normal in 47 years to mention it in one sentence and to repeat it sometimes,” Zoran Zaev told a press conference Skopje, speaking in English.

“I believe in the Prespa Agreement … I’m the first to follow the Prespa Agreement,” he added.

He said the national team comprised “Macedonian players, Albanian players, Bosniaks etc … They are Macedonians … and the representation of the Republic of North Macedonia.”

Attending Monday’s game between North Macedonia and the Netherlands, Zaev tweeted: “Today, from the stadium in Amsterdam, I offer my strong support to the Macedonian national football team.”

The tweet caused a storm in Athens, with the government reportedly postponing a cooperation memorandum with North Macedonia in protest.

Zaev said the tweet was not a reason to hold up the Prespa Agreement and associated memorandums in the Greek parliament.

“We waited two years for these agreements. And we can wait three more months more,” he said, adding that the citizens in both countries wanted the memorandums to proceed.





Заев за името на ФФМ: Преспанскиот договор мора да се почитува

Сите невладини институции, приватни или правно-приватни субјекти во кои спаѓаат и приватни фирми и граѓански здруженија, ако примаат пари од Буџетот за нивни меѓународни активности, треба да го почитуваат Преспанскиот договор.


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Вака премиерот Зоран Заев одговори вечерва на прашањето дали ќе се менува името на Фудбалската федерација на Македонија (ФФМ).

Заев рече дека чувствува горчина, но Преспанскиот договор е завршена работа и тоа е нешто што ни обезбедува иднина. Треба да тераме во тој правец, не ни требаат, како што нагласи, нови непријателства.

-Сите институции кои не се државни, а примаат пари од државата за нивно претставување надвор, имаат обврска според Преспанскиот договор да се променат. Очекувам федерациите дури и кои не примаат пари или други здруженија, да го следат уставното име на државата. Не дека не е горчина и кај мене. Тоа е завршена работа и тоа е нешто што ни обезбедува иднина. И треба да тераме во тој правец. Не ни требаат нови непријателства. Дефинитивно сите невладини институции, односно приватнни или правно-приватни субјекти во кои спаѓаат и приватни фирми и граѓански здруженија, ако примаат пари од Буџетот за нивни меѓународни активности, тоа треба да го направат, објасни Заев.

Во јануари, потсети премиерот, ФФМ има примено пари од Агенцијата за млади и спорт.

-Очекувањата се да постапат согласно Уставот и законите зашто Преспанскиот договор е ратификуван и тој е закон. Да, во фудбаласката репрезентација на Северна Македонија играат Македонци, Албанци, Турци, Бошњаци,… Треба да го следиме Преспанскиот договор зашто тоа е наша обврска, а Грците си имаат нивни обврски кои ги исполнуваат, рече Заев.

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