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Old 01-14-2021, 08:45 PM   #601
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Софија со остар демарш до македонското МНР поради запалено бугарско знаме во Вевчани

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Захариева објави дека бугарскиот амбасадор во Скопје упатил остар вербален протест поради инцидентот

Амбасадорот на Бугарија во Скопје Ангел Ангелов упатил вербален демарш до македонското МНР поради информации дека е запалено бугарско знаме во Вевчани, каде што вчера полицијата го растури карневалот, одија организација се откажа општината поради ситуацијата со ковид – 19.

За демаршот, на Фејсбук, информира шефицата на бугарската дипломатија Екатерина Захариева.

„По повод медиумските објави за изгорено бугарско знаме во село Вевчани во Република Северна Македонија му порачав на бугарскиот амбасадор во Скопје Ангелов да го се изрази пред владата на РСМ нашето силно негодување за овој вандалски чин. Амбасадорот Ангелов веќе упати остар вербален демарш во Министерството за надворешни работи на РСМ“,

напиша Захариева.

Бугарските медиуми не пренесуваат повеќе детали за случајот кој предизвика вербален демарш од Софија до Скопје, освен дека за време на годинешниов карневал во Вевчани, кој немаше официјална организација, е запалено бугарско знаме.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:08 PM   #602
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To summarise, in 2014, a law was introduced where the burning of flags (irrespective of the country) would warrant a punishment of 1 to 5 years. That law came about during the Gruevski regime. And now the Zaev regime is busy pursuing the individuals responsible for burning the flag of Macedonia's steppe-nostalgic neighbours to the east so they can be throw in prison. Meanwhile, Macedonia is routinely insulted by its neighbours. Think about how utterly stupid that is - you can go to prison for 5 years for burning the flag of another country (whilst in your own country) that despises your very existence.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:16 PM   #603
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I think I saw on social media members of the Bulgarian National Movement burning a ventilator and Serb flag in retaliation - not a word from Skopje or Sofia
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I think I saw on social media members of the Bulgarian National Movement burning a ventilator and Serb flag in retaliation - not a word from Skopje or Sofia
It can be found here

https://fb.watch/38BvyniV2J/

You have to question Macedonia's media, they report when something is directed at Macedonia's neighbors but when it's an attack on their own country they turn a blind eye.
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Adjective “Macedonian” to be erased from the official minutes of the joint commission with Bulgaria, “of the Republic of North Macedonia” to be used instead

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Instead of the adjective “Macedonian”, the constitutional name “Republic of North Macedonia”, will be used in the minutes of the Joint Macedonian-Bulgarian Commission.

This is the compromise that, according to Sitel TV, was reached regarding the use of the adjective “Macedonian” in the minutes of the Joint Commission.

Sources from the Macedonian team of the commission told Sitel that the agreement is that the adjective Macedonian will be used only in the quotations from the minutes, while in the official conclusions of the meetings the constitutional name of the country will be used, ie the names deriving from it.

Thus, instead Macedonian, “of the Republic of North Macedonia” will be used.

There was allegedly an agreement on the name of the commission itself, ie the minutes will no longer have a Macedonian side and a Bulgarian side, but the minutes will state the Commission of the Republic of North Macedonia or the Commission of the Republic of Bulgaria, depending on what it refers to.

The Macedonian side was satisfied that the adjective Macedonian still remains in use.


Македонската комисија демантира дека од записниците е избришано „македонски“

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Категорично ги отфрламе невистините дека придавката „македонски“ се заменува со уставното име Република Македонија и дека придавката „македонски“ ќе се користи само во цитатите на членовите на Комисијата, нагласуваат за МИА од македонскиот тим на Заедничката мултидисциплинарна експертска комисија за историски и образовни прашања.

-Членовите на македонскиот тим во Комисијата би сакале да ја информираат јавноста во однос на неточните и нецелосни информации кои се појавија во јавноста во врска со вчерашната виртуелна средба на која беше усогласен записникот од деветтата средба. Имено, категорично ги отфрламе невистините дека придавката македонски се заменува со уставното име Република Македонија и дека придавката македонски ќе се користи само во цитатите на членовите на Комисијата, наведуваат од македонскиот тим на Комисијата.

Потенцираат дека на вчерашната средба беше постигнато техничко решение со кое одредени проблеми биле надминати, при што секоја страна останала на своите ставови и позиции во контекст на проблематичните прашања во содржината на записниците.

-Би сакале да испратиме повик до новинар(к)ите да известуваат одговорно и професионално за теми кои се важни за интересите на македонската држава, апелираат од Комисијата.

Дел од медиумите денеска објавија дека придавката “македонски” ќе се користи само во цитатите од записниците, а во официјалните заклучоци од средбите ќе се употребува уставното име на земјава.

Македонскиот тим од Комисијата вчера за МИА нагласи дека на вчерашната средба, на која се дискутираше за усогласување на содржината во записниците од деветтата и десеттата средба бил постигнат напредок.

– Двете страни ја усогласија содржината на Записникот од деветтата средба, а во однос на десеттата средба беа надминати неколку прашања поврзани со содржината на записникот, посочија од Комисијата.

Во периодот до наредната редовна средба, која начелно е договорена да се одржи на 25 и 26 февруари, ќе се продолжи со работа во однос на останатите прашања од записникот од десеттата и за записникот од последната, единаесеттата средба на Комисијата.

На вчерашниот онлајн состанок, на кој учествуваа по тројца претставници од двете страни, беше предвидено да се разговара само за текстовите на записниците што сč уште не се потпишани, но не и за какви било историски прашања.

Во 2021 година се очекува Комисијата да има пет состаноци. Претходниот, 11-ти состанок на Заедничката комисија се одржа на 4 декември минатата година
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Old 01-23-2021, 04:14 PM   #606
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The Macedonian side is the peasant with the ill fitting suit just happy to be in the group photo. Such an agreeable collection of village idiots. It's embarrassing to be Macedonian ... or whatever they call themselves now.
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From the first link.
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Sources from the Macedonian team of the commission told Sitel that the agreement is that the adjective Macedonian will be used only in the quotations from the minutes, while in the official conclusions of the meetings the constitutional name of the country will be used, ie the names deriving from it.
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We categorically reject the untruths that the adjective "Macedonian" is replaced by the constitutional name Republic of Macedonia and that the adjective "Macedonian" will be used only in the quotations of the members of the Commission, emphasize for MIA the Macedonian team of the Joint Multidisciplinary Expert Commission on Historical and Educational Issues......We would like to send a call to the journalists to report responsibly and professionally on topics that are important for the interests of the Macedonian state, the Commission appeals.
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Pendarovski promises Bulgaria that Macedonia will not try to install “some kind of a Macedonian minority”

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President Stevo Pendarovski vowed not to interfere in Bulgarian internal affairs over the issue of minority rights, referring to Macedonians in Bulgaria as “some kind of minority”. In an interview, he did insist that there are Macedonians living in Greece, though.

Bulgaria is adamant that Macedonia is not allowed to raise the minority issue in the region of Pirin Macedonia, which Bulgaria conquered in the Balkan wars a little over 100 years ago. According to the 2017 Zaev – Borisov treaty, both countries pledged not to raise minority issues, but they reserve the right to protect their citizens living in the other country – a recipe that favors Bulgaria which was systematically issuing passports to Macedonian citizens. Pendarovski promised that Macedonia is not officially helping minority organizations in Pirin Macedonia.

Their point is that we must give up on attempts to install some kind of a Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. Principle number 1 in international relations, especially since 1945, is non-interference in internal affairs of other countries. With that, we can’t and don’t want to interfere in the internal order of Bulgaria. But if somebody individually declares to be a Macedonian, and turns to the Council of Europe or other organizations to seek his rights, that doesn’t automatically mean that someone in Skopje instructed and paid for it. There are people who declare to be Macedonians in Greece too. With the Prespa treaty we did not renounce them, Pendarovski said.

Under the Prepsa treaty, Macedonia is obliged not to press for the protection of the rights of any persons that are not its citizens”. The Zaev – Borisov treaty has a specific article obligating only Macedonia to declare that its Constitution does not “constitute the basis for interference in the internal affairs of the Republic of Bulgaria, with the purpose of protecting the status and rights of persons, who are not nationals of the Republic of Macedonia”. Meanwhile, both countries “have the right to protect the rights and interests of its respective nationals, on the territory of the other Contracting Party in accordance with international law” – a clause that in reality only favors Bulgaria, which has issued over 100,000 citizenships to Macedonian citizens, eager to travel and work more freely in Western Europe using the Bulgarian EU passport.

Organizations of Macedonians in Bulgaria have turned to the European Court of Human Rights after Bulgaria refused to register them, and recently, left leaning members of the European Parliament have raised this issue against the Borisov Government. Bulgaria considers these suits and the actions of the European Parliament as inspired by the Zaev Government.
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There are people who declare to be Macedonians in Greece too. With the Prespa treaty we did not renounce them, Pendarovski said.
More lies. That is exactly what they did.
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Organizations of Macedonians in Bulgaria have turned to the European Court of Human Rights after Bulgaria refused to register them, and recently, left leaning members of the European Parliament have raised this issue against the Borisov Government. Bulgaria considers these suits and the actions of the European Parliament as inspired by the Zaev Government.
Sure, Zaev is coordinating an insurrection of Macedonians in Pirin whilst erasing Macedonian history in the republic. 3D chess.
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3D chess.

This is the Macedonian genius which is often on display by our brethren. Rather than learning the rules, they keep working up new rule-books in their own fantasy worlds. The sad part is that Macedonians seem to accept it all.
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