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  • vicsinad
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2337

    Bulgaria: Time for Preemptive Division of Macedonia

    Looks like those Bulgarians are wasting no time trying to split up Macedonia...

    A 2001 Flashback? After five Macedonian men were found killed near Skopje last week, the ethnic tensions in the Republic of Macedonia seem to be getting worse by the hour.


    Back to 2001?

    After five Macedonian men were found killed near Skopje last week, the ethnic tensions in the Republic of Macedonia seem to be getting worse by the hour.

    That's why all viable solutions must be considered in order to avoid some new horror scenario for the entire Balkans. A "preemptive division" of Macedonia, bold and tough an option as it might seem, could turn out to be the one providing the most sustainable solution.

    It won't be fair to say that the recent murders near the Macedonian capital Skopje have opened the Pandora's box of ethnic tensions between the Slavic Macedonians and the ethnic Albanians because that box has been opened since before the brief civil war in 2001.

    And the civil conflict back then was terminated only after the US and the rest of the West made it clear to the ethnic Albanian groups that the rebellion in Macedonia was way "too much" after Kosovo had just been snatched from Serbia in the 1999 NATO-Serbia War.

    2 Million Dollar Questions about Today's Macedonia

    Technically, the Macedonian civil war of 2001 was ended with the so called Ohrid Accord, which was supposed to grant a number of concessions to the ethnic Albanians. Anybody with even remotely realistic understanding of Balkan affairs, however, has been aware ever since that, regardless of the inspired pronouncements of the Ohrid Accord, there are two, not one, million-dollar questions about the stability of Macedonia (and therefore the Balkans):

    1) How to guarantee that the ethnic Albanians already nearing a third of the two-million population and bordering other ethnic Albanians to the west and north will be loyal citizens of the Republic of Macedonia, which itself is designed as a nation state for a different nation (i.e. the Macedonian nation invented by communist Yugoslavia in 1943-44, and considered part of the Bulgarian nation before that)?

    2) Why would the ethnic Albanians whose percentage is rapidly growing want to remain loyal citizens of the Republic of Macedonia, especially given the example of the Kosovo Albanians who gained internationally recognized independence with Western support in only 9 years after staging an armed rebellion (1999-2008)?

    Thus, even though an all-out civil war in Macedonia was averted in 2001, ethnic tensions have been simmering and growing slowly but steadily, with Slavic Macedonian and ethnic Albanians, who used to dislike and despise each other, now starting to really hate each other.

    Although the same can probably be said of any other country in the Balkans, for strategic and historical reasons the Republic of Macedonia is crucial for the stability of the entire region; its destabilization could be the "best" way to trigger an international war which will suck in Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, and Turkey within half an hour.

    That is why, the best the international community (in this case still an euphemism for the West) can do is really try to find a solution that can guarantee PERMANENT stability in Macedonia, rather than employ its favorite approach in which it pressures the locals into living together regardless of their animosities until the implosion becomes inevitable. Or until it becomes clear that the respective country will have be to be held together indefinitely through occupation by some Western "stability force" with a cool-sounding acronym.

    (Greater) Albanian Ideas for Macedonia

    The fact of the matter is that many of the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia (as well as many of those in Kosovo, Albania, and elswhere) – who for cultural reasons have a much higher population growth than the Macedonian Slavs – seem to be living with the conviction that in 20, 15, or even 10 years they will be in a position to demand the federalization of Macedonia or even their secession in more than half of the country's (west of the Vardar River, and possibly beyond it).

    This idea is reinforced not only by their high birthrate but also by the fact that the ethnic Albanian population of Macedonia is geographically concentrated in the Western and Northern part of the country, and by the very close and vivid precedent of Kosovo's breaking away from Serbia with Western approval. Kosovo's independence indeed seems so inspiring to the Albanians in Macedonia that they hardly care that the Milosevic regime in Serbia back in 1999 was an enemy of the West, and that today's Macedonia is not.

    This idea is valid even when one disregards the overly simplistic notion for a "Greater Albania" – a 19th-century-nationalism-inspired ethnic Albanian superstate engulfing Albania, Kosovo, and (Western) Macedonia – that is occasionally waved around as a scarecrow in Balkan and global media.

    Map of Greater Albania as claimed by Albanian nationalists. Map from WIkipedia

    In 2011-2012, the situation in Macedonia is close to what it was in 2000-2001, except now the ethnic Albanians (that is, THOSE of them who have the political agenda stated above!) are in a stronger position because of their greater numbers and the Kosovo precedent. The past year, i.e. since the spring of 2011, has seen a growing number of violent ethnic clashes, the latest being the anti-Albanian protests in Skopje this week over the murders of the five Macedonians which are suspected to have been committed for ethnic reasons.

    Meanwhile, an ethnic Albanian grouping said to be based in Kosovo's Mitrovica declared itself to be an "Army for the Liberation of the Occupied Albanian Lands" (that is, in Macedonia) which has threatened to attack the Macedonian army and police in two weeks unless Macedonia "vacates" its Albanian-populated regions.

    This new grouping might be modeled after the Army for National Liberation that started the 2001 uprising in Macedonia, which itself was modeled after the Kosovo Liberation Army from 1998-99, a paramilitary organization that enjoyed massive Western support even though it was widely rumored that some of its members were involved in international organized crime.

    Hold'em Together till Implosion! Go, West!

    In this situation, the West has reacted "as usual", with the representatives of the USA, EU, NATO, and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe urging peace and quiet in Macedonia – a truly pointless act in a seemingly divided country where ethnic hatred could spiral to horrific levels with every single act that either or both communities might find resentful.

    Unfortunately, pressuring the Macedonians and Albanians not to assault one another openly will only work for some time, and that time might have already passed.

    Granting greater concessions and more rights to the ethnic Albanians, which are still technically the minority (even though they make up more than 90% of the population in many municipalities in Western Macedonia), such as making Albanian the second official language in the entire country, will be doubly counterproductive.

    First, it will whet the appetite of the more hawkish Albanian groupings and leaders for greater demands. Second, it will make the Slavic Macedonians madly resentful. From that point on, an open conflict would be only a matter of time, and Western pressure might be unable to reign it in.

    For better or worse, the Balkans, or least some parts of them, are no Switzerland and no United States of America where different ethnic and religious communities pledge melting-pot allegiance to the same constitution and flag. The West, the USA in particular, should have already learned this lesson in Bosnia and Herzegovina which by popular opinion has turned into a non-functioning confederation held together only from the outside.

    Macedonia MUST NOT become another Bosnia or another Kosovo – which is why probably the best solution for it would be if the Macedonian Slavs and the ethnic Albanians sat down peacefully and agreed on a fair settlement for parting with one another.

    The Dangerous Nationality Principle. Apply with Care!

    Everybody has been extremely scared of drawing borders and dividing countries along ethnic lines anywhere in the world. And rightfully so! Every single act of such nature has the potential to destabilize the international political order by the simple virtue of creating precedents. However, this does not mean that the principle cannot be applied in selected cases where it might be the one sustainable solution that can prevent a violent conflict.

    In fact, the West has already employed the "nationality principle" with the recognition of Kosovo but in an "openly covert" way. It has let the 2 two million ethnic Albanians secede from Serbia but within the borders of the historic province of Kosovo which also includes several other ethnic groups in digestively small numbers, allowing the proponents of the Kosovo Republic to claim the legitimacy of a multiethnic liberal democracy with equal rights for all when in fact a state where the majority ethnicity makes up more than 90% of the population can hardly be described as multiethnic.

    At the same time, the USA and most of the EU have no intention of letting the 100 000 Kosovo Serbs, who live in extreme misery, secede from Kosovo, nor do the they have the intention of letting the ethnic Albanians in Eastern Serbia (the municipalities of Presevo, Bujanovac, and Medveda) try to rebel and secede because that would mean an all-out, open application of the "nationality principle", which is when the real trouble would begin with minorities in any single Balkan state demanding the same.

    In Macedonia's case, however, where the majority-minority balance is quickly being shifted, a new "openly covert" application of the nationality principle could be the best option because the peaceful division of the country will be a much, much, much smaller tragedy than a civil war, or an international war! Or becoming an international protectorate such as Bosnia or parts of Kosovo, for that matter.

    As the Kosovo situation demonstrated, the nationality principle of border drawing could be applied selectively. No chain reaction of seceding minorities followed, if you don't count South Ossetia and Abkhazia in Georgia but this scenario there was not unavoidable. So if Macedonia gets devided through a negotiated settlement, the Western powers can manage to keep it "ad hoc."

    Benefits of Parting and How-to of Preemptive Division

    However, unpalatable this may sound, the Slavic Macedonians will benefit from such a "preemptive division" scenario because their position is weakening as time goes by because of the higher birth rate of the ethnic Albanians. If Macedonia gets divided in 10 or 20 years (possibly after a civil or international war, in the worst case scenario), the Albanians are likely to get a larger chunk, perhaps even half or more of the country's territory.

    On the other hand, the ethnic Albanians will benefit from a division of Macedonia now because even though their claims will have to be a lot more modest, they will receive unproblematic legitimacy and recognition, whereas in the event of a conflict they will be internationally discredited, not to mention the cost of human life on both sides.

    Both groups, and everybody else in the Balkans, will benefit from averting a potentially disastrous conflict. All in all, it is much better to part without a war, rather than part with a war, not only because many may die but because the living ones will hate one another for good.

    Thus, a negotiated settlement can be achieved in which the overwhelmingly Albanian municipalities of Western Macedonia can form a new state entity. Although it sounds as a ghost from the past, the shifting of population – of ethnic Macedonians from these parts with Albanians from minority municipalities – should be considered, again, for the sake of creating a sustainable solution. Once again, the rationale is simple: much better to move people than to keep them where they are in a constant risk because of the proclamation of some new meaningless accord under which they are supposed to have rights but don't.

    The real goal should be to establish two homogenous entities of people who don't hate each others' guts, sharing a stable border that will then be open for cooperation and trade. Many will be quick argue that this approach is anachronistic but it might be the one that makes the most sense. If the "Switzerland of the Balkans" notion was working, I would be all up for it! But, unfortunately, it is not! After many decades, it failed in the former Yugoslavia, it failed in Bosnia, it failed in Kosovo, and it seems to be failing in Macedonia.

    A milder version of the "preemptive division" of Macedonia could be the creating of a confederation along the terms I described above, short of an outright division – but this too doesn't solve the main problem – the fact that the ethnic Albanians don't seem to have any allegiance to the Macedonian nation-state.

    But if the two communities in Macedonia sat down and agreed to part peacefully in a settlement guaranteed by the West, with a clause prohibiting the unification of the Albanian-populated regions with either Kosovo or Albania, a recipe for stability could be achieved.

    If there is one thing great power experience with the Balkans should teach the Western nations is that the more you put off some issue in the Balkans, the worse it gets. The issues of Bosnia, Kosovo, and Macedonia could have been resolved in the 19th century by the European Concert of Powers but instead the Powers leased Bosnia to Austria-Hungary, returned Macedonia and Kosovo to the Ottoman Empire, and things kind-of unraveled, all the way to the wars of the 1990s. Will another war of this unfortunate heritage be allowed?

    The Bulgarian Position

    The "preemptive division" idea set forth hereby will certainly be criticized for laying out this solution from the point of view of Bulgarian interests. The problem with that criticism would be that a sustainable solution that preempts a crisis in the Balkans is in everybody's interest. Much to the disappointment of the vocal "macedonianists" (i.e. the proponents of the doctrine of a separate and distinct Macedonian nationa) in Skopje, today's Bulgaria has no interest whatsoever in absorbing or otherwise dominating Macedonia or parts of it. What once was an undisputed part of the Bulgarian nation is no longer that today. In fact, there is a growing resentment Bulgaria towards the Macedonians who get Bulgarian passports by claiming Bulgarian origin, and then disrespecting Bulgaria.

    Furthermore, Bulgaria has no interest in sharing a border with the ethnic Albanian states in the Balkans because that would place in geopolitical pincers between the Albanians on the west and Turkey on the east.

    Even though Bulgaria has friendly relations with Turkey, and it enjoys good relations with both Albania and Kosovo, it is well-known that in addition to Bosnia, the mostly Muslim countries of Kosovo and Albania are the spots in the Balkans where Turkey enjoys great influence.

    To avoid these pincers pressuring on it on various ad hoc issues, Bulgaria does need a stable and strong Macedonian state to act as a buffer, a state that would be open to economic cooperation, but certainly not one that is about to implode, or even explode.

    Hard Decisions Now vs. Catastrophe Later

    A preemptive division of Macedonia will be an extremely unpopular and hard decision to make, especially for the Slavic Macedonians. But they must give it some serious thought because they stand a lot to lose, and can lose a lot more in 10-20 years than they can lose now.

    The preemptive division of Macedonia, rationally, seems to be the best of all bad choices. Unfortunately, the dream for a Switzerland of Balkans, which emerged as a dream with Balkan intellectuals in the 19th century, has never been realized, and it doesn't seem to be even kind-of close, not even in light of the EU integration prospects. Until the mindset of the people and the institutions and liberal democracy start working properly in the Balkans – we are stuck with what we have.

    Of course, no illusions are harbored that a rational approach could be employed in the Macedonian case with issues that so overloaded with emotion, and that also depend on the leaders in faraway capitals such as Washington, Brussels, London, Berlin, and Paris, who have the well-being of some Balkan nations as the last thing on their minds. The situation in Macedonia will probably be patched up once again, the West will apply more pressure for peace and quiet, the government of Nikola Gruevski will manage to keep it together. Unfortunately, postponing is no solution, and none of that bodes any well.
  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    #2
    A very good article I think it say's a lot about Macedonia,s position.It is being divided all the time.The Alabanians want their part of illirda & to link up with kosovo.That is their ultimate prize.It's not about fucking rights its how they vcan use a pretext to start a war & take Macedonia for ourselves.That's what the albanians want they want more & more so called rights when in fact is the secession of macedonian teritory.The bulgarians throughout history have allways wanted to take macedonia & judging by this article they sure as hell are not going to sit idly by for the albanians to take over especially the vardar region.The instability of the region means that there is a huge opportunity for the
    albanians to start another war & there is a saying there is plenty of fuel for the fire as kosovo NLA is armed & at the ready.
    Last edited by George S.; 04-21-2012, 11:20 PM. Reason: ed
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #4
      a macedonian who stands by his beleifs firmly is a real macedonian.You can see that he was slowly being talked out of being a macedonian but he stood firm.
      Last edited by George S.; 04-22-2012, 04:57 PM. Reason: ed
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • DraganOfStip
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1253

        #5
        Those tatar bastards have no business writing about Macedonia,they better keep focus on their own problems,their organized crime they're famous for etc.Who cares what they write anyway?Stay on your rice fields,mongols!
        ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
        ― George Orwell

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #6
          My advice to any Macedonian would be to provide evidence that suggests Macedonia can do anything different to the Bulgarian's advice.

          The evidence would have to include a summary of actions Macedonians have taken to defend their country before (and after) 2001 as well as an overview of the cohesiveness of the RoMacedonians.

          I am willing to offer a (small) Post-It note if you want some spare paper to write all of the actions on it.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • chentovist
            Banned
            • Feb 2012
            • 130

            #7
            At their last census Bulgarians counted just over 5 million in a nation of 7 million people. They are in no position to speculate on other Balkan nations and urge the changing of borders.

            They have their own restive muslim minorities to worry about;

            Anti-Roma rioting spreads across the EU’s poorest country
            Last edited by chentovist; 04-22-2012, 07:53 PM. Reason: ed

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15658

              #8
              We can draw a distinction between Bulgaria & Macedonia in the fact that Bulgaria is not crippled by the Framework Agreement and is not being run by its minority.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                #9
                A war with no fighting is not a war.Not being prepared for war you can't win.We shouldn't count on nato or others to come & save us.Since 2001 i would hazard to guess army numbers have been allowed to dwindle away.Macedonia i would say is no no shape to defend itself from anyone even the albanians(apparently)the albanians are much more better equipped than 2001.
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • Stojacanec
                  Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 809

                  #10
                  Am I mistaken but was that a Bulgarian in Skopje giving his two bobs worth about what he perceived as Balkan history to the old man.

                  Firstly the interviewer pointed out that they both could understand each other. To that I would have given him a door prize being a small bolder to take home from the nearby quarry.

                  Secondly when the interviewer was trying to explain how Alexander was Greek then I would have taken that microphone and threw it in the same quarry.

                  To all those mongrel Bulgarians that want to spread their propaganda within our borders, stay home and look after your own dilapidated country.

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #11
                    why do they need another country Macedonia as they are going to lose their bulgaria to ther gypsies by 2050.
                    Last edited by George S.; 04-23-2012, 12:05 AM. Reason: ed
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Belomorec
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 17

                      #12
                      I am not sure who this article is talking about?

                      What in the fucking world is a Slavic Macedonian?

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        #13
                        Probably something the Tartar Bulgarians say to get over their identity issues.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Tomche Makedonche
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1123

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Belomorec View Post
                          I am not sure who this article is talking about?

                          What in the fucking world is a Slavic Macedonian?
                          Sounds like a good game, I've got one...
                          What in the fucking world is... Armija?
                          “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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                          • Brian
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1130

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Stojacanec View Post
                            To all those mongrel Bulgarians that want to spread their propaganda within our borders, stay home and look after your own dilapidated country.
                            There could be more to this than you guys think. The timing of this announcement nicely gives enough time for the idea to get into peoples minds before more is pushed along this line of thinking.

                            Solution is only an exchange of territories

                            Нема причина тоа да не се случи бидејќи тоа е во интерес на...*


                            Washington, April 26, 2012 (Reuters) - Republican Congressman from California, told Tanjug that stands Serbs in north Kosovo to gain the right to self-determination and evaluate the best solution is an exchange of territories. - People have the right to decide their own destiny, and therefore initially supported Kosovo. They did not want to be part of Serbia. Now Kosovo authorities should recognize that the Serbs are on the border with Serbia, do not want to be part of Kosovo, said Dana Rorabaker. According to him, the best solution is an exchange of territories where the majority are Serbs or Albanians. - There is no reason to not happen because it is in the interest of all.

                            Immediately after the talks should come to open borders for trade without tariffs. This would reduce current hostilities will encourage economic cooperation and it would be a real normalization of relations, evaluate it in an interview for Tanjug. the conclusion that such a plan will support the U.S. nor the EU, Congressman says he is certain the Serbs would were for such an agreement, but at this point oppose the authorities in Kosovo.
                            This has obvious connotations for Macedonia.

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