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tchaiku 03-16-2017 08:52 AM

[QUOTE=Carlin;167346]What is the title of this article and would you be able to provide source/link? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I found this on an Albanian forum the post were written as early as 2003, for more information you can find in the book of the author mentioned above.

tchaiku 03-16-2017 09:19 AM

[url]https://www.amazon.com/History-Balkans-Mohammed-Conqueror-Stalin/dp/0880332220[/url]
[url]https://www.amazon.com/History-Romanians-Georges-Castellan/dp/0880331542[/url]

Carlin 03-17-2017 07:23 PM

Thanks.




Quote from Konstantinos Koumas (1777-1836), himself probably of Vlach extraction:

[I]If the extraordinary hero of Macedonia succeeded in spreading the Greek language throughout the whole of the East, even as far as India, [B]in a period of only ten years[/B], it scarcely puts a strain on our credulity to imagine that [B]the Romans might have accomplished the same thing![/B] Indeed, it seems but perfectly natural that over eight centuries the Latin language should also have taken root in precisely those places where Latin colonies were planted - from England to the Euphrates and from the Elbe to the deserts of Africa. For almost six centuries before the fall of Rome, the whole of what is now European Turkey was filled with Roman armies, Roman prefects, Roman lords and magnates. [B]The result of such continuous contact between the Romans and their subject peoples was that [U]the whole peoples like the Macedonians, Thessalians, and Greeks not only learned the language of their masters[/U] but in many cases completely forgot their own mother tongue.[/B]

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tchaiku 03-18-2017 11:34 AM

Some conclusion from earlier posts in here:
-The Vlachs-Greeks were speaking the Greek lanaguage of Byzantine Empire (Romania) bilingualy with their native language.

- They migrated later than Albanians.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Arbanon[/url]
From Pindos mountains.

-It is possible that they migrated in Epirus after the Slavs seeing the slavic toponyms.

Carlin 03-19-2017 10:23 PM

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[I].... Fanis Michalopoulos has given the answer, who, referring to the visit of Cosmas of Aetolia to Aspropotamos and Agrafa, stresses that "the language here (was) Vlach in most villages"[/SIZE][/I]

Carlin 03-19-2017 10:34 PM

- Thessaly used to be called 'Great Vlachia' or 'Megali Vlachia', with the capital Larissa.
- The Chronicle of Epirus refers to 'Great Vlachia' as 'Greco-Vlachia'.
- Can provide detailed translation upon request.

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Carlin 03-19-2017 11:12 PM

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Carlin 03-26-2017 08:56 AM

1) The English Folk-Play, E. K. Chambers.

Page 229:

"[B]In Epirus, where the inhabitants are mainly Hellenized Vlachs[/B], there is a spring revival ceremony without a combat."

[url]https://books.google.ca/books?id=rdt9CgAAQBAJ&pg=PT174&lpg=PT174&dq=the+english+folk-play+vlachs+epirus&source=bl&ots=OcYSLZrILX&sig=lbycrhdsoqPQotsqm3hf1TE5hHY&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib0rDmpvTSAhWP3oMKHcIYAEwQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=the%20english%20folk-play%20vlachs%20epirus&f=false[/url]

[url]https://archive.org/stream/englishfolkplay027958mbp#page/n243/mode/2up[/url]

2) Euboea or Evia

"[B]The ethnic Greek population is descended from Arvanites and Vlachs[/B], who have lived in Euboea since the early Middle Ages."

[url]http://www.landscapes.gr/evia.html[/url]

Carlin 04-01-2017 10:05 PM

This Greek article talks about the large waves of migrations of Vlachs to Asia Minor. There were mass migrations of Epirote Vlach settlements which began in the 17th, continued in the 18th century and peaked in the 19th century.

[url]http://mikrasiatis.gr/%CE%BC%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%AE%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82-%CE%B2%CE%BB%CE%AC%CF%87%CF%89%CE%BD-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%AC-%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%AF%CE%B1/[/url]

Carlin 04-01-2017 11:19 PM

Христос (Кристе) Дагович = Хаджи Христо Българинът = Χατζηχρήστος Βούλγαρης

Date of birth: 1783.

Христос (Кристе) Дагович was a revolutionary, commander during the Greek War of Independence (1821 – 1832), who thanks to his achievements and contributions for the independence and freedom of Greece received a rank of General of Greek army, and later on actively participated in building Greece.

According to testimonies, he was leading a unit of 'Bulgarians' during the war. "This squad carried huge proven exploits, one of which is the notorious feat in Dervenaki (Дервенакија) on 26 and 27 July 1822" wrote a Greek historian. He was accepted warmly by the leaders of the uprising Theodoros Kolokotoronis and Alexander Ypsilanti.

[url]https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B8_%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD[/url]
[url]https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A7%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B6%CE%B7%CF%87%CF%81%CE%AE%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82_%CE%92%CE%BF%CF%8D%CE%BB%CE%B3%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%82[/url]

Битка кај Дервенакија
[url]https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%98_%D0%94%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0[/url]


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