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Areianos 09-06-2008 02:22 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;806]No, but there numbers was very small, you have also to be aware that many peoples adopted the Greek label when they moved upwards in the social network in the Ottoman empire, thus they were not Greek in the way you seem to mean it today.[/QUOTE]

According to whom's source is leading you to believe Greeks in Macedonia were small in number considering only Greeks revolted in Macedonia in the 17th century?

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:23 AM

Greeks in Macedonia before the arrival of refugees was 850,000.

Petros Houhoulis 09-06-2008 02:24 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;806]No, but there numbers was very small, you have also to be aware that many peoples adopted the Greek label when they moved upwards in the social network in the Ottoman empire, thus they were not Greek in the way you seem to mean it today.[/QUOTE]

Why was their number very small? Who were these Greek people in Macedonia, and what happened to the Macedonians when the Slavs arrived in the Balkans?

Can you answer those questions?

toothpaste 09-06-2008 02:25 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;806]No, but there numbers was very small, you have also to be aware that many peoples adopted the Greek label when they moved upwards in the social network in the Ottoman empire, thus they were not Greek in the way you seem to mean it today.[/QUOTE]

Sources?
Was there a massive "Greek migration" then ?:)

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:27 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;809]According to whom's source is leading you to believe Greeks in Macedonia were small in number considering only Greeks revolted in Macedonia in the 17th century?[/QUOTE]

Now you are being naive, what did the term "Greek" mean in the 17th century?

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:28 AM

It was definitely Ellhnes not Romioi.

This is not my arguement, Greeks were the only ones that revolted in Macedonia in 1821 then again in 1856.

..and almost accomplished it.

Petros Houhoulis 09-06-2008 02:28 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;814]Now you are being naive, what did the term "Greek" mean in the 17th century?[/QUOTE]

The term Greek was used for the Hellenes by the Western people since the Romans adopted that name for us since time immemorable.

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=toothpaste;813][B]Sources?[/B]
Was there a massive "Greek migration" then ?:)[/QUOTE]

Friedman and Danforth for starters.

Yes there was a MASSIVE Greek migration in the 1920s, see this map:
[B][URL="http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/Piperkata/mapofgreecerefugeesettlements-1926.jpg"]CLICK HERE[/URL][/B]

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:32 AM

No denying 500,000 Eastern Greeks and others settled in Macedonia.
in 1925 the census in Macedonia read 1.3 million Greeks.

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:32 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;816]It was definitely Ellhnes not Romioi.

This is not my arguement, Greeks were the only ones that revolted in Macedonia in 1821 then again in 1856.

..and almost accomplished it.[/QUOTE]

But Ellines was considered to be a term used for Pagans thus the Church was very much against that term.


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