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Carlin 04-09-2022 04:04 PM

The "Byzantine" army at Lebounion included a [I]tagma[/I] of 5,000 'mountain people' whom Anna Comnene calls [I][B]Areimanioi[/B][/I]. Some have proposed that those were Vlachs, who call themselves [I]Armani[/I].

[I]Areimanis[/I] appears in classical texts, such as Strabo, with the meaning of "full of warlike frenzy" (possessed by the god Ares), as correctly translated in the english edition of the [I]Alexiad[/I]. Anna was very fond of such classical references, by which she wanted to show her sophistication. This, however, does not exclude the possibility of those warriors being Vlachs, as they are said to have come from the mountains.

It is known that on the eve Lebounion, the emperor recruited heavily from among the Bulgarians and [B]Vlachs in southern Thrace[/B] (an area under the command of N. Melissenos).

-- Page 140, A. Magdearu, "Byzantine Military Organization on the Danube, 10th-12th Centuries"

Carlin 04-16-2022 12:09 PM

- For the late 1400s, it is said that Zakynthos and Kephallonia were largely uninhabited at the time of the Venetian take-over in the late 1400s.

- 15th century Peloponnese: According to the first Ottoman fiscal documents the peninsula may have had more Albanian than "Greek" inhabitants.

Pages 192-193: "Coinage and Money in Medieval Greece 1200-1430 (2 vols.)", by Julian Baker

Carlin 05-14-2022 03:00 PM

- "The documents of the Latin Archdiocese of Kephallonia record the presence of the Vlachs in the Ionian Islands in 1274."

- "Under the reign of Sultan Mahomed II (1451-1480), the Vlachs represented about 40% of the population of the Peloponnese."

Page 21, footnotes

Carlin 05-14-2022 09:14 PM

Constantine Buhayer (University of Westminster, London) states that [B]"many of the Greeks of Crimea were Ellinovlachi"[/B].

[QUOTE=Onur;123153][B]The so-called Crimean Greeks were native Turkish speakers with Tatar dialect, all of them without any exception.[/B] Already, when they came to Greece, they didn't know a word of Greek.

Their origin is quite clear. We even have books of the western European travelers from 1390 AD which notes the existence of christian Tatars in Crimea, converted by both Byzantine orthodox and western catholic missionaries.

Crimea has been inhabited by Goths [`till 17th century], Turks [`till 20th century] and slavic speaking Ruthenians [to become Ukrainians laters]. [B]I don't think there was any Greeks or Vlachs in there throughout history.[/B][/QUOTE]

Vyron Karidis, The Mariupol Greeks: Tsarist Treatment of an ethnic minority ca. 1778-1859 - Pages 66 & 67:

- "By the late 1770s the Russians, probably in an attempt to weaken the theoretically independent Crimean Khanate, encouraged a great part of its non-Muslim population ([B]Christian Armenians, Georgians, Vlachs and [I]Crimean Greeks[/I][/B]) to emigrate to the steppes of Azov."

- "The exodus started in July 1778. To Alexander Suvorov's report, who played a leading part in the Christian emigration, '[B][I]Greeks[/I], Georgians and Vlachs[/B],' left from 68 various parts of the Crimean peninsula..."


Carlin 06-03-2022 10:33 PM

Testimony of Robert Curzon (1810-1873), of 1849, for his visits, in 1834, to Epirus, Macedonia and Thessaly where he met "Albanians who spoke the Vlach language".

Carlin 06-07-2022 01:09 AM

In 1553, in Salona (now Amfissa), Agrafa and Thessaly lived Vlachs who "were both good Christians and good people."

Carlin 06-08-2022 08:51 AM

- According to John Sibthorp (1758 – 1796; in Walpole's Memoirs, p. 141.), "a wandering tribe of Nomads" on the other side of Greece drive their flocks from the mountains of Thessaly into the plains of Attica and BŠotia to pass the winter.

- Testimony from 1423: Euboea or Evia was also inhabited by Vlachs (Vlachi). (Μνημεία Ελληνικής Ιστορίας - Documents Inedits Relatif a l'Histoire de la Grece au Moyen Age Publias sous les Auspices de la Chambre des Deputes de Grece par C.N. Sathas, Premiere Serie, Documents Tires des Archives de Venice (1400-1500) Tome III, Paris MDCCCLXXXII [1882]).

[Valachos/Vlachi lived in Zitouni (Lamia) and Negroponte (Evia).]

- 1470: the Duke of Messina in NE Sicily was a Vlach (Ulacho).

- 1481: Koroni, in Morea, was inhabited by Vlachi.

Carlin 06-10-2022 09:37 AM

Leake mentions Vlach villages in Mystras (Peloponnese).

Carlin 10-07-2022 06:48 PM

BREAKING: Recently a paper came out the on genetics of the Classical period of the Greek army. Here are some of the samples (closets) that has been mentioned as mercenaries

1. Sarmatians
2. Balto-Slavs
3. BA Caucasus-like


Carlin 10-08-2022 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=Carlin;186946]BREAKING: Recently a paper came out the on genetics of the Classical period of the Greek army. Here are some of the samples (closets) that has been mentioned as mercenaries

1. Sarmatians
2. Balto-Slavs
3. BA Caucasus-like


Chart showing the Y-DNA haplogroups among the Hellenic mercenaries from the recent paper:


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