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Carlin 03-21-2016 04:02 PM

Source: Les Tzacones, By Stamatis C. Caratzas

Page 101: “Nous pouvons donc bien supposer que le terme Tzacones etait connu en Allemagne au 13eme siecle comme designant de nombreux heretiques dont une partie habitait dans des pays allemands et etait slavophone.”

Page 101: “So we can well suppose that the term Tzacones was known in Germany in the 13th century as designating many "heretics" that lived in a part of German countries and was [B]Slavophone[/B].”

--> In German lands, in the 13th century, the 'Tzaconians' were known and understood as Slavic-speakers.

Risto the Great 03-21-2016 05:50 PM

The Tzaconians seem to share a name with the Tsakonians of the Peloponnese. And the slavic connections to the region are not able to be disputed. Interesting.

Carlin 03-23-2016 11:50 AM

Source: "The Quest for Hellenism: Religion, Nationalism, and Collective Identities in Greece (1453-1913)", by Dimitris Livanios.

Page 40:

A thousand years later, around 1891, a Greek nationalist visited Asia Minor, the land of St Gregory, only to receive to his considerable distress exactly the same answer:

For if today you ask a Christian, even one speaking a [U]corrupted Greek[/U]: "What are you?", "A Christian (Christianos)," he will unhesitantly reply. "All right, but other people are Christians, the Armenians, the Franks, the Russians..." "[U]I don't know[/U]," he will answer, "Yes, these people believe in Christ but [U]I am a Christian[/U]." "Perhaps you are a Greek?" "[U]No, I am not anything, I've told you that I'm a Christian, and once again I say to you that I am a Christian![/U]..."

Carlin 03-24-2016 03:48 PM

It appears that some [B]Seljuk Turks[/B] found their way into Morea (Peloponnesus), and established themselves there. (Were there any other Turks that settled and established themselves in Morea, that went unnoticed by the historians?)

Page 63 -
Page 64, [B]observe[/B] footnote 50 -

Source: George Nakratzas, [I]The Close Racial Kinship Between the Greeks, Bulgarians, and Turks[/I].

Carlin 03-28-2016 11:55 AM


Announcement of the Romanian (Vlach) committees, [U]year 1862[/U] -

[I]"[B]Brethren [U]Romans[/U] of Epirus, Macedonia, Thessaly and Albania...[/B]"[/I]

Philosopher 03-30-2016 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Vladimir;164366]For those who haven't watched it yet: [B][U][URL=""]Ethnic Origins of the Modern Greek Nation - 1821 ΣΚΑΪ[/URL][/U][/B]


Does anyone know how this documentary was received in Greece? And do most Greek intellectuals accept it, or is it contested? What about common Greeks?

Amphipolis 03-30-2016 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=Philosopher;164565]Does anyone know how this documentary was received in Greece? And do most Greek intellectuals accept it, or is it contested? What about common Greeks?[/QUOTE]

There's a thread about it here:

Carlin 04-08-2016 01:48 PM

Maria Efthimiou - The Arvanites of Greece - YouTube:


Carlin 04-12-2016 11:35 AM

Additional Sources and Info: [B]Albanians and Albanian Vlachs of Attica-Boeotia and Phthiotis[/B].







Page 271 from the G. Nakratzas book:

Carlin 04-14-2016 01:17 PM

Transportation of Vlachs in Asia Minor.

This Greek article talks about the 'transportation' / waves of migrations of Vlachs to Asia Minor. There were mass migrations of Epirus Vlach settlements which began in the 17th, continued in the 18th century and peaked in the 19th century.

Μετακινήσεις Βλάχων στη Μικρά Ασία

[B]Page 100[/B] (G. Nakratzas book): the modern Greeks of Epirus are a melange of Albanians, Slavs, and Vlachs.

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