Tip Toeing Around Borders

[Delodephius]

I think I hate anti-Communists more than I hate Communists. Can't decide really.

[Jankovska]

But another problem that I see here is Yugoslavia again, don't forget that we hardly studied Macedonian history in Yugoslavia, we studied everything after the second world war.
Hahaha.EXACTLY! TITO KNEW VERY WELL WHY YOUR HISTORY BOOKS SHOULD START FROM 1945!!!
Why are we as Macedonians so afraid to talk about Egej and Pirin and the borders that put there?
I assure you, the hawks in Greece are waiting exactly for this.

Just because some lunatic of a dictator made you follow their rules doesn't mean he was right, same as just because your gov doesn't agree that there are Macedonians in Greece doesn't make it right.
I can be given any history to learn, any language etc but I will be one thing only, a Macedonian. No dictator can change who you are.
Why is it still so hard to get that through your thick Greek head?

[osiris]

do our greek posters really believe what they are saying, if so they must really be stupid and ignorant. if they don't and are simply here to push the neo hellenic lie, then they are obvious racists and fascists.

this whole debate is about the rights of individuals to self identify and not about history.

[toothpaste]

do our greek posters really believe what they are saying, if so they must really be stupid and ignorant. if they don't and are simply here to push the neo hellenic lie, then they are obvious racists and fascists.

this whole debate is about the rights of individuals to self identify and not about history.

thread title:

Tip toeing around the borders.

post n.1

A simple question friends:

Why are we as Macedonians so afraid to talk about Egej and Pirin and the borders that put there?

Did I miss something? Are we not supposed to talk about 1913?

Do you anytime read the thread title and the previous discussion ,or it's enough for you just writing the same "Greekz bad,Greekz racists ,Greeks pigz, self-determination ,Greekz bad racist pigz!" bullshit?

[GREEKoccupiedMacedonian]

As soon as you get close to the mark, these clowns start going into an anti Hellenic fit.
Its as regular as clockwork.
The EU do not want this type of behaviour from pending applicants.

[Delodephius]

What if is not bullshit?

[GREEKoccupiedMacedonian]

What if it is?

[Delodephius]

Then it's all fine with me.

[Jankovska]

As soon as you get close to the mark, these clowns start going into an anti Hellenic fit.
Its as regular as clockwork.
The EU do not want this type of behaviour from pending applicants.

Whatever the present Greeks represent is everything but 'Hellenic' so no there isn't anti Hellenic fit because they are long gone, this is anti Asia minor fit against fakers and liars.
But you are all here with your propaganda's because the truth is finally coming out, Macedonians are free to talk now and you can do fuck all about it.

Yeah go cry somewhere else, moron

[Risto the Great]

What if it is?

What is necessary to prove otherwise?
Here are some questions that would be a worthy addition to a census in Greece:

Do you acknowledge that your ancestors spoke/speak a different language to Greek?

Do you agree that their ethnic identity could be characterised as something quite different from what you are today?

Do you feel the various Greek Governments have had a systematic policy of influencing the ethnic character of your people over the last 80 years?

[GREEKoccupiedMacedonian]

I acknowledge my ancestors did not speak a different language than Greek.

My ethnic identity is Greek and not something different.

The various Greek governments as with all governments will promote their dominant culture.

Risto the Great Macedonian, man amongst men and legend, (vlaka) you are trying to paint a negative picture of Greece here, as you have no valid arguments.

Understand that your ancestors with communist ideologies have put your people in this sad predicament.

[Risto the Great]

Oops, did I edit my name into something more appropriate?
Yes I did.
So, GoMno, tell me how you know your people spoke Greek.
I note you could not answer the questions sequentially. Is this because of a limited intellect, or is it more to do with blind nationalism?

I am still a communist. My Porsche is Red as proof of this.

[GREEKoccupiedMacedonian]

You may edit here, but your revisionist policies do not cut it on the world stage.

[GREEKoccupiedMacedonian]

At least now you are seing the light, as a self confessed communist we can move on.
A communist with a red porsche, what would the commrades think?

[Risto the Great]

You are not as funny as me.

I am deeply communist, I want everyone to be as rich as me, but most can't keep up. It is a shame. In a broader perspective, I want everybody to be as intellectually superior as I am. But people like you show me why everyone can't be intelligent and maintain dialogue. You are a lightweight. You will be the first to become a German when the EU dictates it. Your people did it already to become Greeks.