Ljupcho Georgievski - The Traitor

[Soldier of Macedon]

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n174843

Alexander the Great was the biggest Bulgarophil in Macedonian history

“I had met antique Macedonians very rare until the dissolution of Yugoslavia. I started meeting them at the beginning of the 90s especially after the Diaspora. Some of them became my friends but their personal conviction did not disturb me and I did not try to argue with them. Unfortunately there has been a big government’s campaign in the last two years to make me thing like them.” This is what is written in publication of former Macedonian Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski, sent to FOCUS News Agency.
The article is entitled “Alexander the Great was the biggest Bulgarophil in Macedonian history”. In the article Georgievski pointed he is not Pan-Slavic
“Such idea has never been close to me. I cannot agree I have to be proud with Huns and Kalash relatives and to be ashamed of Slovenians, Czechs and Polish,” is said in the publication.
Georgievski said in the article he is absolutely against searching Macedonian ethno genesis in Antique Macedonia “because from the point of view of present policy it threatens the country”.

The Bulgarians claim a Hun-Bulgar-Turkic ancestry, not the Macedonians you sold out piece of shit.

And I see you had no problem with the symbol of the ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great as our national flag back in the early 90's, why didn't you protest about the claim to Alexander of Macedon back then?

This is why the below thread is important, it exposes the lies of such traitors and maggots:

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1059

[Soldier of Macedon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars

Who's the 'Hun' bre Lupcho bre prost budalo?

If you are a Bulgar, do you believe in Tangra? Do you speak a Turkic language? Traitor.

[Volk]

Ne se nerviraj SOM... Sega e ocigledno sto se slucuvase vo 2001, tatarskiot spiun ja krojese Makedonija za podelba. Ne uspea pa ja oplacka i si otide na brief vo bugarija za idnite cekori...

So predavnici kako ovoj kreten i crvenkovski, boskovski sve poveke mi lici ist na Makedonija ne i trebaat neprijateli

[TrueMacedonian]

Is this true about VMRO?

Someone in another forum told me that VMRO is connected with the 'greeks'. Here's what this person told me. Is it true?


TrueMacedonian,

The VMRO had been given money by Greek lobby. Next time you are in mak, you can go to the government election office and see fundraising where the VMRO took large amounts of money from unknown groups with Greek conections. Local VMRO offices also have given permits for Greek companies to build hotels and cosinos in Macedonia. The VMRO was also in power when the Greeks started buying up land that Macedonian churches sit on, without even saying a word about it.

If you read the Macedonian News you will find a lot of this kind of stuff. And its not just the VMRO, SDSM and all the other political parties are doing the same crap.

[VMRO]

Someone in another forum told me that VMRO is connected with the 'greeks'. Here's what this person told me. Is it true?


TrueMacedonian,

The VMRO had been given money by Greek lobby. Next time you are in mak, you can go to the government election office and see fundraising where the VMRO took large amounts of money from unknown groups with Greek conections. Local VMRO offices also have given permits for Greek companies to build hotels and cosinos in Macedonia. The VMRO was also in power when the Greeks started buying up land that Macedonian churches sit on, without even saying a word about it.

If you read the Macedonian News you will find a lot of this kind of stuff. And its not just the VMRO, SDSM and all the other political parties are doing the same crap.

I think in the 90's under Ljubco Giorgievski that was the case, just as Serbia was funding SDSM.

[Risto the Great]

I will safely assume most Macedonians appear to be easily bought.

[Rogi]

This is definitely not true. Rather, not in the way it is being portrayed.

By the way, I'd like to know if those propagandists who start these kinds of stories, consider the Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia who secretly fund VMRO-DPMNE to be that 'Greek connection' of VMRO-DPMNE?

Mind you, back in its beginnings, VMRO-DPMNE was raising funds secretly because it was also creating its own branches in Aegean Macedonia for the Greek political scene, etc.

All parties though, do keep secret where they raise their funds - but mostly its based on a racketeering business. If the thread was about this, then we'd have a lot to talk about....

Every businessman in Macedonia pays money to the political parties for their elections, etc in exchange for 'protection' (i.e. their business will not be closed down when that party is in power, etc).

[Bratot]

Someone in another forum told me that VMRO is connected with the 'greeks'. Here's what this person told me. Is it true?


TrueMacedonian,

The VMRO had been given money by Greek lobby. Next time you are in mak, you can go to the government election office and see fundraising where the VMRO took large amounts of money from unknown groups with Greek conections. Local VMRO offices also have given permits for Greek companies to build hotels and cosinos in Macedonia. The VMRO was also in power when the Greeks started buying up land that Macedonian churches sit on, without even saying a word about it.

If you read the Macedonian News you will find a lot of this kind of stuff. And its not just the VMRO, SDSM and all the other political parties are doing the same crap.

I would simply not agree with the bold, because what kind of a power have some local party office?

What does it mean, that the SDSM local offices are quiet about it because... of what?

Probably also took money? :)) that would be logical conclusion.
I don't think they wouldn't use this argument against their opponents, anyway.. you need to prove it.

Those casinos are built mostly close to the border because most of the clients are actually Greek business class who want to avoid the greek public eyes.

And if I'm right, responsible for giving green light to those casinos are the local mayors.
The local mayors of Gevgelija and Dojran are from the SDSM. - for decades.

I will safely assume most Macedonians appear to be easily bought.

Just to correct you - POLITICIANS

This is definitely not true. Rather, not in the way it is being portrayed.

By the way, I'd like to know if those propagandists who start these kinds of stories, consider the Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia who secretly fund VMRO-DPMNE to be that 'Greek connection' of VMRO-DPMNE?

Mind you, back in its beginnings, VMRO-DPMNE was raising funds secretly because it was also creating its own branches in Aegean Macedonia for the Greek political scene, etc.

All parties though, do keep secret where they raise their funds - but mostly its based on a racketeering business. If the thread was about this, then we'd have a lot to talk about....

Every businessman in Macedonia pays money to the political parties for their elections, etc in exchange for 'protection' (i.e. their business will not be closed down when that party is in power, etc).

Rogi, I would say part of it is true

I agree with you that the big businesses and companies rather chose to finance the political campaign in order to enjoy some comfort later in the state they operate - simply the new government that they sponsored will close their eyes when some irregularity appear...



To be realistic, today the "wars" and " conquering" is not done by the weapon as it use to be, but through economic influence.

Not accidentally the Vladimir Putin has limited the entrance of foreign investors in the Russian economy. clever boy must admit.

They will bought out every bigger company in the state and will control the economy, the politicians and so on.

Ljubco Georgievski made the biggest mistake (for us, for him it was good deal) by selling out OKTA rafinery to the Greek businessmen.

The second larger bank has 51% of Greek capital and they can seriously influe our finances.

They bought even the very profitable beer company Skopska Pivara whos most popular brand - Skopsko beer gained pretty big popularity on Balkans and in Europe.
When the greek owner came he changed the slogan of the brand from - Skopsko- najdobroto od Makedonija , into Skopsko - nasheto najdobro. )
I guess you understan the point.


What we have to realize, that there always gonna be corrupted politicians and that's why I use to say - we are fucked up no mater who will be elected.

Anyway, my intuition tells me that this information that TM posted from some guy is meant to make a lil mess and to insert the ppl a doubt in VMRO before the second round of the elections.
SDSM has nothing to lose because everyone knows already about their Greek connections, not only business oriented but also family related since they married their daughters with the Greek businessmens for real.

[Risto the Great]

Just to correct you - POLITICIANS

I stand corrected.

[Rogi]

Bratot, Tito Petkovski is now with NSDP not SDSM

But you're right.

[Bratot]

It's not only Tito Petkovski, Orovcanec also and there are couple of others who belong to SDS traitor machinery.

[Dimko-piperkata]

Anticki Makedonci ili Sloveni?

listen carefully @Lubcho Georgievski
if I ever should meet you in...
...macedonia I WILL KILL YOU
...germany I WILL KILL YOU
...tataria I WILL KILL YOU
...somewhere else I WILL KILL YOU

YOU ARE ONE OF THE WORST TRAITOER OF THE MACEDONIAN FOLK U R MARED 4 DEATH

@ Pasko Kuzman
u have also dissapointed me, whats wrong with u, once u were one of my favorite patrioti

Anticki Makedonci ili Sloveni? Pasko Kuzman & Lubco Georgievski ` Borjan Jovanovski

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[Mygdon]

There is one argumentation of Ljubco that made me aggressive in a way. He mentioned Alex Grandgrandgrandgr....father Alexander I participated on the Olympic Games and because it was only allowed to Greeks to do so, that would be a clear proof of the Macedonians to be ethincally Greeks.

1.) Alexander I was called "Philhellen", and we all know what that means.
2.) The first regular Olympic Games took places in the 8th century b.c. and when did Alexander I participated? Yes, 250 years later. So it took the Greeks 250 years to recognize that the Macedonians were Greeks, Two hundred and fifty years?
3.) How did Alexander I prove his greek ancestry? He made the Greeks believe it by drawing his lineage up to Hercules. Well, Hercules is nothing buy a mythological figure..

What a proof, really.

[Mr. MASO]

I cant fuckin believe this the demented loser was still alive to make it to the studio. When I see his face...... Words can not discribe what I am feeling, when he talks, I feel like placing a bomb underneath his car like Gligorov. I sorry for talking like this but its really pissing me off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rogi]

I love this video for the pure fact that Pasko Kuzman makes a mockery of Ljubcho and his stupidity. He puts him in his place for all to see. He's laughing at him and everything he says.


Still a big fan of Pasko Kuzman - he's not a politician so you've got to expect that he doesn't care so much about forcing his views on others, this is why he's so quiet and laughing at his opponent the whole time. Then he destroys him when he speaks.


My mother wrote a letter to Gligorov many years ago, a few days after he gave his "We are slavs" speech. The letter demanded of him, among other things, to go back to the Carpathians where he may descend from, and leave Macedonia to us Macedonians. Gligorov was so upset by this letter from the Macedonians in Australia that he held it in his hands whilst in Parliament, shaking it about whilst asking who the Macedonians from Australia were, who wanted him to leave Macedonia and go back 'zad karpatite' where he belonds, etc.

She's now scribbling out Gligorov's name and writing Georgievski above it, and re-addressing the letter to him.