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  • momce
    Banned
    • Oct 2012
    • 426

    Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
    well, it helps macedonia more than it hurts - so EU and so lack of understanding of what is right what is wrong. on-going errors

    JOKE
    I like your way of thinking. Good now that greece is in "reneg status" so it should definately gesticulate to other "issues" people have with greece ten-fold. War is war. It can be carried out in many forms, no mercy for the greekoinoid enemy.
    Last edited by momce; 02-02-2013, 11:33 AM.

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
      well, it helps macedonia more than it hurts - so EU and so lack of understanding of what is right what is wrong. on-going errors

      JOKE
      You have a point MK.
      Macedonia should open dialogue with this racist at the highest level to expose the hypocrisy.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • Makedonska_Kafana
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2642

        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
        You have a point MK.
        Macedonia should open dialogue with this racist at the highest level to expose the hypocrisy.
        The, Macedonian government does not really want solutions or they would be more concerned what's going on ie. Macedonia v Athens with zero gained aka waste of time. Did, they go to the UN and demand that they be called Republic of Macedonia? Lets. sue the United Nations next and get nothing in return for practice.
        Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 02-02-2013, 06:51 PM.
        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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        • DedoAleko
          Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 969

          eu raps Macedonia over political impasse...

          eu raps Macedonia over political impasse, cancels visit

          (Reuters) - The European Union's enlargement commissioner cancelled a visit to Macedonia next week over a political dispute that he warned could undermine the ex-Yugoslav republic's bid to start membership talks with the bloc.

          Macedonia's main opposition Social Democrats have been boycotting parliament since they were thrown out of the assembly by security during a brawl in late December.

          Accusing the rightist government of authoritarianism, the Social Democrats are now threatening to boycott local elections on March 24.

          EU enlargement commissioner Stefan Fule had planned to visit next week to assess the small Balkan country's reform progress, but said on Friday this would no longer be "appropriate".

          "I am frustrated by the lack of progress in putting an end to the political stalemate," Fule said in a statement. He warned the situation was "putting at risk" an opportunity for Macedonia to clinch the start of membership talks.

          Macedonia's efforts to join the EU and NATO have been hostage to a dispute with neighbouring Greece over Macedonia's name, which it shares with a northern Greek province. Greece wants it changed.

          Mindful, however, of the threat of instability in a country that flirted with civil war in 2001, there have been growing signs that the EU's 27 members might agree to open accession talks even without first resolving the name dispute.

          Diplomats say the lack of headway towards the European mainstream, and the attendant economic and travel opportunities, is fuelling discontent in Macedonia particularly among ethnic Albanians who comprise a quarter of the two million population.

          They waged an insurgency in 2001 until Western diplomacy pulled the country from the brink of full-blown civil war. Some of the former guerrillas are now in coalition government with Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, but tensions continue to simmer.

          The Social Democrats (SDSM) have conditioned their return to parliament on a postponement of the communal elections until April 28 and a deal that if the opposition wins, the government should call a snap parliamentary election for September.

          Gruevski's VMRO-DPMNE party has rejected both conditions.

          "We appeal to the SDSM to give up blackmail and the setting of conditions," VMRO-DPMNE said in a statement on Friday. "We call on them to stop harming the country and to return to the state institutions."

          izvor: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...91E0P720130215

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          • Gocka
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 2306

            I don't quite see what angle SDSM are trying to play here. Why do they keep asking for early elections? I don't see them making any gains in the parliament in fact its a toss up they could even lose seats. How often are they going to ask for early elections, what is this like the 4th time? They are making us look bad that is for sure and to be honest as much as I dislike Gruevski and CO. I'd rather some greek party take over rather than sdsm, I think they are that bad. That said does anybody have any insight are ideas as to what they are trying to achieve here?

            Also this might be a good time for a better option to turn up in ROM, there is plenty of room to exploit the wrong doings of both VMRO and SDSM. Just wishful thinking but it would be a good opportunity right now.
            Last edited by Gocka; 02-15-2013, 01:16 PM.

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            • Bill77
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 4545

              I don't quite see what angle the EU are trying to play.
              Macedonia is not and never will be, seriously looked at as part of the enlargement plan so for European diplomats to over use this tone (Macedonia risks bid to start membership talks) over and over each time there is an internal dispute (be it major or minor) which has nothing to do with any other country or organisation, is getting quite boring and the threat has less affect.
              http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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              • momce
                Banned
                • Oct 2012
                • 426

                Interesting. Why doesnt the EU impose the same things on greece, which regularly doesnt implement international and EU law?

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                • Gocka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2306

                  Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                  I don't quite see what angle the EU are trying to play.
                  Macedonia is not and never will be, seriously looked at as part of the enlargement plan so for European diplomats to over use this tone (Macedonia risks bid to start membership talks) over and over each time there is an internal dispute (be it major or minor) which has nothing to do with any other country or organisation, is getting quite boring and the threat has less affect.
                  I agree, it's almost comical. They have to play the game though. The EU was supposed to be for everyone so they can't just come out and say "ok listen you will never get in no matter what you do" so they put on these little shows and over exaggerate every little thing that happens. Like momce said why aren't they ever over exaggerating what greece does? They have broken almost every EU law that exists but all the EU does is downplay what happens in greece. It makes you wonder what the real agendas are and why there is such a blatant double standard.

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                  • Bill77
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4545

                    Originally posted by Gocka View Post
                    It makes you wonder what the real agendas are and why there is such a blatant double standard.
                    Agenda is to cover up their own incompetence and that of Greece. By pointing out trivial matters, they find this, to excuse themselves of any accusations of unjust.

                    "Yes lets show the citizens of ROM and the rest of Europe that Greece or us at EU are not really the bad guys, its you Macedonians and your government that are detrimental towards your selves".
                    Last edited by Bill77; 02-15-2013, 10:25 PM.
                    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                    • momce
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 426

                      Its typical doubletalk based on strategic interests. Macedonia should know what its real interests are.

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                      • Gocka
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 2306

                        I have been dwelling on the current political situation in ROM and have been trying to work out exactly what the recent maneuvers by both parties mean.

                        Someone correct me if I am wrong, The local elections will still carry on even if sdsm does not participate? If it does carry on doesn't that mean that vmro will just win pretty much all the local elections except for places where the albo parties will win? Is the only upside for sdsm to make vmro look back internationally or am I missing something important? What is the political reason for boycotting elections what do you stand to gain from it?

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                        • Vangelovski
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8532

                          EU Grants in Macedonia

                          Ah good old Struga..a bastion of corruption...

                          EU Cash Enriches Macedonia’s Shady ‘Youth’ NGOs

                          Youth NGOs from Macedonia, some of which are practically invisible to the public, have been receiving significant sums of EU funds for five years.

                          Most have no permanent address, no office and no website but are still regularly winning cash from Brussels under the Youth in Action programme.

                          While suspicions have repeatedly been raised that the distribution of European grants for youth projects in Macedonia has unfairly favoured relatives and friends, neither European nor Macedonian institutions have fully investigated the claims.

                          In a BIRN investigation, we focused on 11 Macedonian youth NGOs, as this is the number of NGOs that on average receive grants from Brussels at one time.

                          The investigation confirms that the recipients of grants from Brussels for youth programmes, worth thousands of euros, have often been relatives or friends of employees in Macedonia’s National Agency for European Educational Programmes and Mobility, NAEPM.

                          Questions put to institutions about these NGOs by BIRN concerning the results of their work were dismissed on the grounds that this information was secret.

                          The sums involved are not small. Over five years, local NGOs have received almost 2 million euro from the Youth in Action programme.

                          Most of this money came directly from Brussels. The rest was distributed by the National Agency in Skopje.

                          No known address:

                          BIRN focused on the following organizations: Jasna Idnina (Clear future); the Fund for Interregional Development; the Youth Creative Centre; Kvantum (Quantum); Denica (Morning Star); the Centre for Rural Development of South East Europe; the Fund for Youth Development; the Council of Youth NGOs; the Volunteer Centre; Macedonian Youth Press; Youth Forum – OKO.

                          It is hard to locate most of the NGOs that have received funds under the Youth in Action programme because two-thirds of them have no website or registered offices, or are registered at private addresses.

                          It is hard to find any information on the Internet about Jasna Idnina, the Council of Youth NGOs, Macedonian Youth Press and the Fund for Youth Development.

                          A similar problem occurs if one wants to find the central address of these organizations.

                          For example, the Council of Youth NGOs, which had implemented eight EU projects by 2011 worth 158,000 euro, registered each project at a different address.

                          The Centre for Rural Development has no website, no contact telephone number and, according to the Central Registry of Macedonia, no clear address, either. It is given as a “settlement without street system – Struga.”

                          Using data from the Central Registry, we tried to find some of these NGOs and talk to them about their formula for success in obtaining grants from Brussels.

                          We started in Struga, where several are supposed to be based. The smell of barbecued meat coming a small kebab house was the first thing confronting us when we found the address listed in the Central Registry for Youth Forum-Oko and the Fund for Interregional Cooperation.

                          Youth Forum-Oko has been one of the main recipients in Macedonia of funds from the Youth in Action programme. In recent years, it received at least 330,000 euro for 16 projects.

                          Oko and the Fund for Interregional Cooperation are both listed at 86, Marshal Tito St, Struga, but when we knocked at this address, an elderly woman told us that Oko had not been renting a small room in her home for over a year.

                          She believed that Oko now worked elsewhere, but did not know, even though her own children were activists in the organization.

                          “They left a year-and-a-half ago and are now located either near the local bus station or at the place known as the swimming area,” the woman said.

                          Strolling through Struga, other residents told us to look near at a cake shop near the bus station.

                          Above the cake shop, we found a nameplate over a locked door that read “Centre for NGOs – Struga”, including a landline telephone number. According to the Central Registry data, no association under this exact name exists.

                          Disappointed by our failure to locate the NGOs in Struga, we spoke to the owner of the cake shop, who said: “You are looking for these people in vain. They are not in the country and when the cat is away, the mice will play, so no one comes to the office anymore.

                          “Shemsedin is not here, he went to Afghanistan,” he added. “The office of the NGO is up there, but they are not there. They either went to Spain or to Italy.”

                          When we telephoned the NGO “centre”, using the number posted on the door, a male voice answered that no such NGO centre was based there. However, once we explained that we had visited the site and seen this number posted on the door, he told us to call back in five minutes.

                          When we returned the call, we got through to Zlatko Shurdoski, president of Youth Forum-Oko, who told us that their organization was still working on projects approved by Brussels.

                          “What I can tell you is that we are currently working on projects, and, when we send them, they (Brussels) evaluate them and call us,” Shurdoski told BIRN.

                          Regarding the Centre for NGOs – Struga, he said this was an informal umbrella name for the Youth Forum-Oko, the Centre for Rural Development and Youth Press.

                          He knew nothing of the Fund for Interregional Cooperation, which had also listed the previous address as the address of the Fund.

                          Confusion over addresses is equally evident with the Struga-based Youth Press, which provided no less than three different addresses when applying for projects in Brussels.

                          Organizations from Skopje that have received money from Youth in Action are no better in terms of visibility and transparency than those in Struga.

                          Kvantum, a Skopje-based organization that has received funding for at least four projects, worth almost 70,000 euro, is presented on the Internet in only one statement, released by the Agency for Youth and Sport.

                          This stated that the organization had conducted a study visit entitled “Unemployed vs. Employed tour” within the Youth in Action programme back in 2010.

                          Jasna Idnina is another association whose activities aimed at young people are hard to identify.

                          The name of this association has occurred only at the press conferences of the opposition Social Democratic party, SDSM. The party claimed that it had paid for campaign adverts targeting its former leader, entitled “Resistance to Crvenkovski”, through this NGO.

                          Friends and relatives:

                          What is also alarming about the funding of youth projects in Macedonia - apart from the apparent non-existence of some beneficiaries of EU money - are evident links between employees in the National Agency, which part-distributes EU cash, and the organizations that receive grants.

                          Applying for European project funding involves serious administrative commitment and a working knowledge of the criteria set in Brussels.

                          Receiving funding from Brussels is manifestly less difficult, however, if contacts in the National Agency provide key information about priorities, objectives and other useful indicators concerning the receipt of grants.

                          Igor Domazetovski, who was once on the steering board of the National Agency, was an authorized signatory of the Struga-based Youth Press.

                          When BIRN asked him “whether his organization received grants when he was part of the agency”, the phone line went dead and repeated attempts to contact him drew no response.

                          The Council of Youth NGOs, founded by Katerina Stankoska, was awarded 158,000 euro for eight projects by 2011. The NGO closed after she later was employed at the National Agency as head of the Department of legal and line operations.

                          However, the Stankoska family home was not only used to register the Council of Youth NGOs but also the Volunteer Centre from Skopje in 2006 whose founder, Nikola Stankoski, was her brother. Violeta Stankoska, their sister, also worked in the Agency, until 2010.

                          The Volunteer Centre has received almost half a million euro in total of European funds, for 23 projects.

                          In 2012 alone, it received funding for four projects as part of the Youth in Action programme from central funds in Brussels worth 72,000 euro.

                          The Volunteer Centre, which has a network of over 200 young volunteers, is one of the few youth NGOs that we contacted that regularly publishes information about its activities on a website.

                          Still, the existence of relationships between the founders of NGOs who are beneficiaries of EU funds and employees of the National Agency inevitably raises questions about whether these NGOs received information that privileged them in obtaining grants when they applied for cash.

                          Nikola Stankoski, founder of Volunteer Centre, confirmed that one of his sisters is still employed by the Agency, while the other, Violeta worked there earlier.

                          However, he maintained that no conflict of interest had occurred in terms of funding because he had applied directly to the Youth in Action programme, and his sister had had no impact and could not have supplied him any privileged information.

                          “No one from the National Agency can call to lobby for a project in Macedonia. It is absolutely impossible,” he said.

                          “We have not received such privileges so far, and we were recipients of EU youth grants even before the Agency was established,” he added.

                          Shemsedin Iljazi was registered in the Central Registry as an authorized representative of the Centre for Rural Development of SEE, from the village of Jablanica, near Struga in 2010.

                          By 2011, this organization had received EU funding for five projects worth 92,000 euro, while in 2012 it received another 23,922 euro from the National Agency.

                          Shemsedin’s sister, Lulesa, works for the National Agency as head of Vocational Education and Training.

                          She said the award of funds in October 2012 to her brother’s organization had not involved a conflict of interest because she had no influence on who obtained grants because she was responsible for implementing another programme in the Agency.

                          “As of first of December 2012, Shemsedin is no longer representative of the organization,” she answered shortly.

                          Regarding questions of conflicts of interest, the National Agency said in writing that all project evaluators and employees in the Agency involved in the selection and awarding process for the Youth in Action programme had signed statements on conflicts of interest, and anyone contravening the rules would be excluded from further processing.

                          The Agency noted that Lulesa Iljazi was employed as departmental head of the “Lifelong Learning” and “Leonardo da Vinci” programmes. She was not an evaluator or a member of the commission for the selection of projects in the Youth in Action programme in 2012, and had not been involved in the selection of projects and awarding of grants at any time.

                          On being asked whether the kinship ties of these people raised questions about a conflict of interest, and how the National Agency ensured that Katerina Stankoska, for example, had not directly influenced the award of funds from Youth in Action, the Agency answered that over the past five years the organizations in questions were not grantees of decentralized funds managed by the Agency.

                          According to a report concerning this issue published in April 2013 by the Macedonian Centre for European Education, “The existing relations of some employees of the National Agency with NGO-grantees are still maintained”.

                          The report also said that NGOs whose founders are related to employees of the Agency “were put into favoured position compared with other NGOs from Macedonia, significantly reducing the possibility of competition under fair and equal terms”.

                          Secret results:

                          The National Agency has considerable power when it comes to projects directly approved by Brussels.

                          One of its responsibilities is to evaluate the operational capacity of an applicant organization for proper implementation of the proposed project, as well as to monitor and evaluate the end-users of European grants. These tasks are performed by the Agency and by external assessors.

                          Based on the Law on Access to Public Information, we asked about the results of the monitoring of projects implemented by the 11 selected NGOs that had benefited from European funds.

                          In each case, we received an almost identical response, which is that our request had been rejected because the disclosure of information could adversely affect the future work of the NGO as well as the Agency itself.

                          The Agency added: “The European Commission i.e. the Directorate General for Education and Culture which signed contracts would disagree with such documents being exposed in public.”

                          Commission turns blind eye:

                          The European Education, Audiovisual and Culture Executive Agency declined to comment on any claims associated with the Youth in Action programme and directed us to the European Commission, which it said had “been dealing with these issues”.

                          The European Commission told BIRN that National Agency staff were not involved in the selection process of the Education, Audiovisual and Culture Executive Agency.

                          As to alleged links between employees of the National Agency and organizations that have won grants under the programme, they said the rules on prevention of conflicts of interest were clear.
                          “Provided that the rules are properly followed, nothing excludes relatives of staff of the Agency from applying for grants.

                          “In such cases, EU rules require the Director of the National Agency to ensure that such candidates do not receive any additional information or support from the staff, and that relevant members of staff are not involved in decision-making in any selection or evaluation phase of the relevant project,” the Commission said in response to BIRN.

                          Asked for a response to the specific allegations contained in the report of the Macedonian Centre for European Education, that abuse of funding for youth projects in Macedonia has continued, the Commission said it had “no concrete evidence of misuse of EU funds”.

                          Sources in civil society organisations familiar with EU project operations believe one reason for this apparent indifference may be that the Youth in Action programme is ending this year.

                          “It mutually benefits all stakeholders not to raise a clamour about the issue,” one civil sector activist in Macedonia told us under conditions of anonymity.

                          All is well:

                          The division of European funds for youth projects in Macedonia has already attracted criticism that prompted the resignation of the then director of the National Agency, Bosko Nelkoski.

                          Nelkoski was the subject of a public outcry after Nova Makedonija newspaper reported in 2010 that, as Director of the Agency, he had awarded European money to an NGO in Struga that he himself had previously ran.

                          The newspaper wrote that senior officials of the Agency managing EU funds, along with their relatives and associates, were involved in the questionable allocation of funding.

                          Following the reports, the European Commission started an investigation into whether Nelkoski illegally allocated European money to organizations based on kinship ties and “friendly relations”. It meanwhile suspended the allocation of decentralized funds via the National Agency for two years.

                          Nelkoski resigned, still denying the allegations, however, and claiming he was a victim of a witch-hunt based on fabrications. He said an audit report of the Ministry of Education would establish that nothing contentious had occurred in his work.

                          In January 2011, Macedonia’s state-run Anti-Corruption Commission said it had asked the public prosecutor’s office to prosecute Nelkoski for misconduct.

                          It said that there was reasonable suspicion that, over 2008–2009, he had abused his official position and conducted reckless operations.

                          “When selecting the final beneficiaries of the programmes of the National Agency, the State Commission established that violations of the Law on Prevention of Conflict of Interest [had occurred],” it said.

                          “In his actions, financed by the European Commission and on the basis of agreements on co-funding, [he] had a discretionary right to select legal and physical entities and people close to the president and members of the Steering Board of the National Agency to benefit from programme funds,” the Commission added.

                          More than two years on from these contentious findings, BIRN contacted the Anti-Corruption Commission to ask about the progress of legal proceedings against Nelkoski.

                          They told us that the procedure was underway and the case was now with the public prosecutor’s office.

                          But when we asked the public prosecutor’s office whether any proceedings had started on the initiative of the Anti-Corruption Office, the Public Prosecutor’s Office, the Basic Public Prosecutor’s Office and the Department for Combating Organized Crime and Corruption in the Basic Public Prosecutor’s Office all maintained that no such initiative had been filed with any of them in 2011.

                          Cash keeps flowing:

                          In 2013, meanwhile, the Youth in Action programme made half a million more euro available to Macedonia.

                          The Minister for Education and Science, Spiro Ristovski, recently announced that 22 decisions had been adopted last year and 317,000 euro had been used.

                          Regarding allegations about the allocation of this money, he said the only important question for him the evaluation of the European Commission.

                          “We shall consider and check any objections, but as long as our communication and evaluations from EC are positive, I think that we should not be concerned in that part,” Ristovski said.
                          If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            confirms the corruption is going on all the time.You aren't going anywhere by questioning it ,it just keeps occurring & a blind eye is cast at any accusations.Corrupt people are lining their pockets.Just wait till they change their name the trough will be bigger in the eu.You can't change the spots on a leopard.More of the same corruption has not been really rooted out.or has it?
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Gocka
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2306

                              Well that explains a lot.

                              My wife is from Struga and she would always wonder: "How do so many people in Struga drive nice cars, build houses, and live well with out having a job, or owning any kind of business". I always told her that more than likely they are involved in something illegal one way or another.

                              At least we are number one in something right?

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                              • Risto the Great
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15658

                                I'm far more concerned about some of these little maggots ramming their anti-Macedonian agenda down the throats of real Macedonians.
                                Risto the Great
                                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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