Ok Stefan, lets try and break this down in a civil way.
You were the first to mention Russia and the USA.
Me being against a person or party that promotes Macedonian slave mentality is not anti Macedonian. It is exactly what it means to be pro Macedonian.
I don't have a hate for Russia, nor a love for the USA. I just call it how I see it. I am not trying to attack you, I am attacking your ideas, I am trying to help you come to the realization that a lot of the things you are saying are contradictory to your stated goal (helping Macedonia)
Maybe you want to be pro Macedonian, maybe you think you are being pro Macedonian. But you can not be Pro anything else, and yet still be Pro Macedonian. Pick up a history book, read what our brave heroes went through, what they thought, what they advocated for, where they went wrong, etc. You will find that much of what you are advocating for has already been proposed, tried, and failed miserably for us as a people.
Simply blindly putting all your faith in someone who claims to be doing it for the good of Macedonia is not good enough. That is not what a good Macedonian does. A good Macedonian, questions, thinks and reasons through the bullshit.
Why do you think you care more than me? Because you are willing to blindly follow a moron? I support and advocate everything that is pro Macedonian. I love my people and want the best for them. I want Macedonia to free and prosperous, not some slave state like we have been for centuries now.
Your ideas and assertions are being challenged, and that is provocation? I've asked you now for the 4th time to explain to me how it is in Macedonia's interests to be the only country in the region and most of Europe to be on the Russian side? What you don't understand is that by letting Russia into your backyard is the same as letting a drug dealer sell drugs on your front steps. You are inviting trouble. They are at odds with all of Europe, we are in Europe, so their rivals become our rivals, why? Why would we want to become rivals with an entire continent to gain the support of 1 country? If you can explain to me how that is a smart move, I will admit that you are right. Sounds fair?
You say I won't support a pro Macedonian party. I say they are not a pro Macedonian party. In my point of view, you are the one who doesn't care about your country, and are not acting in a Pro Macedonian way.
You were the first to mention Russia and the USA.
Me being against a person or party that promotes Macedonian slave mentality is not anti Macedonian. It is exactly what it means to be pro Macedonian.
I don't have a hate for Russia, nor a love for the USA. I just call it how I see it. I am not trying to attack you, I am attacking your ideas, I am trying to help you come to the realization that a lot of the things you are saying are contradictory to your stated goal (helping Macedonia)
Maybe you want to be pro Macedonian, maybe you think you are being pro Macedonian. But you can not be Pro anything else, and yet still be Pro Macedonian. Pick up a history book, read what our brave heroes went through, what they thought, what they advocated for, where they went wrong, etc. You will find that much of what you are advocating for has already been proposed, tried, and failed miserably for us as a people.
Simply blindly putting all your faith in someone who claims to be doing it for the good of Macedonia is not good enough. That is not what a good Macedonian does. A good Macedonian, questions, thinks and reasons through the bullshit.
Why do you think you care more than me? Because you are willing to blindly follow a moron? I support and advocate everything that is pro Macedonian. I love my people and want the best for them. I want Macedonia to free and prosperous, not some slave state like we have been for centuries now.
Your ideas and assertions are being challenged, and that is provocation? I've asked you now for the 4th time to explain to me how it is in Macedonia's interests to be the only country in the region and most of Europe to be on the Russian side? What you don't understand is that by letting Russia into your backyard is the same as letting a drug dealer sell drugs on your front steps. You are inviting trouble. They are at odds with all of Europe, we are in Europe, so their rivals become our rivals, why? Why would we want to become rivals with an entire continent to gain the support of 1 country? If you can explain to me how that is a smart move, I will admit that you are right. Sounds fair?
You say I won't support a pro Macedonian party. I say they are not a pro Macedonian party. In my point of view, you are the one who doesn't care about your country, and are not acting in a Pro Macedonian way.
Originally posted by Stefan of Pelagonia
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