Macedonia and NATO

[George S.]

why waste a good look just give them the swastika flags ,they'll be happy.

[Risto the Great]

I hope they are stopping their fellow Greeks from going into Macedonia to buy their piperki also.

[Stojacanec]

There are lots of Hotels and Casinos being established at the Gevgelija border. Good for business but only problem no Macedonians are allowed in.

[lavce pelagonski]

Македонски туристи во Грција останале без регистарски таблички: Украдени табличките од 25 автомобили


Од почетокот на летната туристичка сезона при влез во земјата од Грција, во 25 случаи македонски државјани пријавиле украдени регистерски таблички од нивните автомобили. На 18 возила им биле украдени и двете таблички. Во 16 случаи кражбите се пријавени и кај грчката полиција, информираше денеска министерката за внатрешни работи Гордана Јанкулоска.

Исто така пријавени се и четири случаи на оштетувања на возила односно на задната табличка на возилото со црн спреј била избришана ознаката „МК“ и во некои случиа било напишано „ГР“.

Најчесто, според Јанкулоска која одговараше на прашање на пратеникот Милорад Додевски од ВМРО-ДПМНЕ, кражбите се случиле во Ханиоти и во Неа Пори. Иако добар дел од кражбите се пријавени и во грчката полиција, досега МВР нема добиено никаква информација од грчките колеги за случаите.

- Немаме информација дека некои од овие случаи се разрешени, изјави Јанкулоска.

Петнаесет од македонските граѓани кои пријавиле кражба или оштетување се од Скопје, а останатите од повеќе други градови.

Инвестициите во инфраструктурниот развој во дебарско-мавровскиот регион оваа година изнесуваат околу пет милиони евра односно 330 милиони денари. Заменик-министерот за транспорт и врски Џељаљ Бајрами, одговарајќи на прашање на пратеничката Јулиета Марку од ДУИ, во однос на патниот правец Дебар-Маврово рече дека работите на делот од Извор до Бошков мост се почанти во рок. Во дел од патниот правец работите се завршени целосно, но се поставува сигнализацијата и ознаките на патот. Изградбата на патот чини 90 милиони денари,а патниот правец набрзо ќе биде пуштен во употреба.

Се реконструира и патниот правец Струга - Дебар, кој многу одамна не бил саниран. Според Бајрами, реконструкцијата на овој патен правец ќе чини 240 милиони денари.

http://sitel.com.mk/node/89240

[George S.]

when will they ever learn its a no go zone.Stay at home & have a holiday.Preferably a safe one.

[The LION will ROAR]

Greek Nazi party torments Macedonians on border crossing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DA64zANqzn4

Why in Earth do Macedonians still go into Greece...?

[lavce pelagonski]

До кога македонските туристи ќе го трпат понижувањето од Грција?
Понеделник, 29 Јули 2013 09:59
„Добро дојдовте во грчката Македонија“. „Тие што се Грци, може слободно да поминат, тие што се Скопјани ќе добиваат лепенка“, „Македонија е грчка“. Вака златнозорците во неделата ги пречекуваа македонските туристи на двата гранични премини, Меџитлија и Богородица, јавува Канал5.

ggrciija

Не престануваат навредите и негостопримството од нашиот јужен сосед, а реакциите од грчките власти никаде ги нема. Единствено, во цела Грција со реакција се јавил само еден весник.

-Единствено солунскиот весник Македонија излезе со осуда, и насловна страна: Златна зора, закана за туризмот.„Ваков вид на екстремизам сигурно е дека ќе бидат голем удар за туризмот во Северна Грција, каде што во овој момент се забележува зголемен бран туристи колку од ФИРОМ, толку и од балканските земји. Многу семејства од соседната земја, не ја криеа нивната загриженост, гледајќи ги групите Златнозорци да извикуваат слогани, навреди и закани “, коментира солунскиот весник, пренесува Канал 5.

Тие, пренесуваат и реакција на министерот за Македонија и Тракија, кој вели дека никој нема право да ги замени властите, особено кога станува збор за чувствителни прашања поврзани со надворешната политика.

Како што дознава Канал 5, вакви инциденти ќе има и во иднина.

Само за потсетување, денот кога во Грција беше запалено германското знаме, сите Германци кои планираа летовање во оваа земја, ги откажа своите аранжмани. Таквата постапка треба да биде пример, како се покажува образ и како се штити својата земја.

Останува отворено прашањето до кога македонските граѓани ќе трпат вакви чинови и до кога ќе им бидат гости на најлошите домаќини во светот.

[iceman]

"Greek" Settlers under pressure not to veto Macedonia's NATO admission

GOOGLE TRANSLATE USED

http://falanga.com.au/katimerini-grcija-e-pod-pritisok-na-megjunarodnite-sili-da-popushti-za-priemot-na-makedonija-vo-nato-

Kathimerini: Greece is under pressure from international forces to budge on Macedonia's accession to NATO

The reason for this assignment is an attempt by big powers to maintain their influence on Western Balkans .


Greece recorded movements between international forces for Macedonia's membership in NATO and felt concern that major powers like Britain , Germany and France as e on September summit to push for an invitation to Macedonia without name dispute resolved , the Greek newspaper Kathimerini comment . As reports spread Morning Journal Athens , despite international attempts to mitigate the Greek red line 9 months before the summit , Greece is determined to raise a new wall and have sent a clear message to the international community that there is no intention to accept the integration of Macedonia NATO and the EU under the provisional reference.

According to Kathimerini , the governments of the major powers in the EU and NATO from now examined the ground for a possible Greek agreement on Macedonia's accession to NATO under the provisional reference. In this direction seems to have been a part of the conversation on Thursday in London between Greek Foreign Minister Evangelos Venizelos and his British counterpart William Hague , though only the information flow of the Greek Foreign Ministry insisted that Britain was the time to resolve the dispute and expressed understanding of Greek positions . As he writes , " Kathimerini " Venizelos meeting once used heavily to withdraw Greek red line for NATO accession of Macedonia and warned not to try to change the name so konsezualnoto solution invitation . " The meeting with Venizelos Hejt expressed disagreement with the opportunity to make an attempt for admission under the temporary name of FYROM into NATO in the wake of the NATO Summit next September in Britain ," the newspaper said.

Greek Foreign Minister and Deputy Prime Minister of the Greek government reportedly went to London ready to Britain raises questions for Macedonian membership in NATO , especially since in this direction already there and move by the U.S. . According to " Kathimerini " ten days ago Assistant Secretary of State for Europe , Victoria Nuland asked questions about Macedonia's Alliance chatting with Greek ambassador in Washington , Christos Panagopoulos .

" Although Nuland had told the dispute was not part of her priorities , but raising questions whether there is a possibility of a positive outcome of all matters heard integration of FYROM 's EU and NATO under the provisional reference. Ambassador responded negatively , " the newspaper said.

The reason for this enhanced international engagement " Kathimerini " assessed to be an attempt by big powers to maintain or expand their impact on the Western Balkans .

[George S.]

nothing is changing greek views.Perhaps the stupid Macedonians might want to please theuir masters & adopt a more suitable name.It's sheer speculation.Greece will not let Macedonia in nato or eu without a name change.

[Vangelovski]

I agree with George. Macedonians, on the other hand, like to bang their heads against the wall believing that if they do it enough times the outcome will change. Actually, it won't - your headache will only get worse the more you do it.

[DedoAleko]

Will Macedonia allow the Face of Fascism to speak in Macedonian Parliament?

Yunanistan took over the presidency of the European Union, and through its Minister of Foreign Affairs Evangelos Venizelos immediately begun a private fascist offensive against Macedonia which originally started as soon as Macedonia became an independent country by creating an absurd problem over the name of the country.



Yunanistan is a country with powerful fascist party and economic crisis created due to falsifying financial data for which all European taxpayers are forced to foot the bill. It entered the European Union by not meeting a single criteria forced upon other member countries. Just weeks ago, Yunanistan took over the presidency of the European Union.

Even though Yunanistan and Venizelos have an obligation to represent the European Union, as soon as it took over the EU Presidency it quickly entered into a private war against Macedonia.

This is what Venizelos said in front of the French Senate, abusing his position and function within the EU presidency.



1. Macedonia does not meet the Copenhagen criteria.

This is a lie. Yunanistan has never even earned the right to speak of the Copenhagen criteria because unlike Macedonia, Venizelos is fully aware his country does not meet the criteria, particularly when it comes to minority rights. Yunanistan does not respect agreements signed with other nations, does not respect decision of the UN/ICJ Court, nor has it signed the Human Rights Convention. Knowing the track record of his own country, with what face Venizelos points the finger at Macedonia in the French Senate?



2. Yunanistan is abusing its current EU presidency role to continue to push their notorious lie that Macedonia must be renamed as the only way Yunanistan can protect their region also called "Macedonia". Otherwise, Macedonia would simply take over half of Yunanistan, acording to Venizelos.

Macedonians not just they are not a threat to Yunanistan, rather continue to be the single biggest source of tourism revenue for official Athens, spending upwards of 400-500 million Euros every summer despite being under attack of Golden Dawn members.


3. Yunanistan through Venizelos (while speaking in Brussels' name) announced that Macedonians were 'fake' people, while their language was "PseudoMacedonian". Macedonians and the Macedonian language are officially recognized and recorded in the UN since the existence of the UN. Through out the world, there are Universities who teach Macedonian. Who gave Yunanistan the right to erase nations, languages or people? It is one thing when Yunanistan politically and economically manipulates with the European Union and the world. It is another thing when Venizelos represents Brussels as his unstable statements become statements of Brussels, and not Athens?



4. There are 35% Albanians in Macedonia and they accept change of country name and identity. This is probably the most dangerous notorious lie uttered by Venizelos in front of the French Senate, a lie that can easily be checked by simply going over the latest census numbers. If Venizelos throws percentages around, he may as well tell the French Senate what percentage of Macedonians, Albanians, Turks... live in Yunanistan, but are unrecognized by Athens! But this perhaps is not very important taking into account official Athens has falsified every single financial report to the EU which in turn collapsed their economy. Athens' propaganda attempts to use the Albanian minority to create a conflict in Macedonia. Because of this official Skopje must react to the UN security council to alarm the group that Yunanistan is a destabilizing and security problem. It is hipocritical that Athens are provoking the Albanian minority in Macedonia while it crushes and does not recognize its own Albanian minority which exceeds 1.5 million.



In the end, Macedonia ought to be warned that Yunanistan, as president of the EU through its Foreign Minister Venizelos has an obligation to visit Macedonia, a EU member candidate country aspiring to enter the Union.

Will Macedonia allow the face of fascism to enter and speak in Macedonian Parliament?

izvor: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/24547/1/

[George S.]

why have the time of day for these racist fools.How insulting they never needed to comply with anything & now is insulting as eu president in the eu.HOw could they elect such people to the presidency.???What a joke .I wouldn't want a bar of the eu or nato if its like that.

[Sweet Sixteen]

why have the time of day for these racist fools.How insulting they never needed to comply with anything & now is insulting as eu president in the eu.HOw could they elect such people to the presidency.???What a joke .I wouldn't want a bar of the eu or nato if its like that.

The EU presidency is not an important institution; it is revolving and changes every 6 months. Greece was not elected in it. It is simply Greece's turn after about 11 years.

The article is wrong. Venizelos doesn't have to visit you; neither are you obliged to accept him. For instance, Turkey does not recognize Cyprus, so during the recent Cyprus' presidency they froze all contacts with EU.

[George S.]

yes s I did remember that at some point the eu greek president going for a visit to Macedonia to hammer things home to rom.I remember mitsotakis was on a "relentive "campaign .To travel around the world to tell the world about their wonderfull greek propaganda.They say jump to Macedonia & rom says how high.Regardless Macedonia IS HELL BENT on joining the nato or eu.Otherwise why don't rom PULL out of the name talks.Macedonia is just fence sitting not really making up her mind.The right thing is to pull out but no they want the eu or nato,but they need to change our name to do it.If there is a greek visit by eu presidency it would be nice to say they won't negotiate their name.I remember in the 1990's of how the greeks were telling the world about how everything was greek.4000 years of greek history.What a joke the greeks were on the greek peninsula for less than 3000 years.So once in the eu presidency Greece will go to unusual lenghths to use the eu to spread their BS.yes s I did remember that at some point the eu greek president going for a visit to Macedonia to hammer things home to rom.I remember mitsotakis was on a "relentless "campaign .To travel around the world to tell the world about their wonderfull greek propaganda.They say jump to Macedonia & rom says how high.Regardless Macedonia IS HELL BENT on joining the nato or eu.Otherwise why don't rom PULL out of the name talks.Macedonia is just fence sitting not really making up the mind.The right thing is to pull out but no.
It's going to be interesting to see whether Macedonia will welcome a visit ie on the pretext to talk about Macedonia entering the eu how they need to change their name.

[Risto the Great]

Roberts: Macedonia ought to think hard about joining EU, NATO

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/25361/52/

Sunday, 25 May 2014
Macedonia should think hard and consider carefully whether it wants to join the West who is declining rapidly, or the advancing East, as did Russia, said Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan government in an interview for "Voice of the people" program.

- Macedonia is in a difficult position. To join the EU and NATO means Macedonia must give up their sovereignty and control over its foreign and economic policy and become part of the Washington Empire. Not joining these organizations in order to continue good relations with BRICS automatically puts the country on Washington's list of enemies, says Roberts, a professor of political economy at the Center for Strategy and International Studies at Georgetown University in Washington .

Commenting on the visit of NATO Secretary General Rasmussen of Macedonia and his statement in Skopje, the American professor and analyst stated that "the application of EU and NATO that Macedonia should change its name in order to join, what he calls, "Washington Empire" shows the complete control the West will have over Macedonia.

- Shockingly, Macedonia is not even allowed to be what it is. In my opinion, Greece, the weakest and most exploited country in the EU opposes Macedonia's name. But unless Greece wants to be called Macedonia, but it isn't, I don't understand their opposition, says Roberts.

Asked what he thinks about Macedonia and its history, Roberts, who is also a former editor of the Wall Street Journal points out that" Macedonia is a well known name - the home of Alexander the Great , the greatest general of all time, conqueror of Persia and the known world. Such a big name simply cannot be sacrificed by Macedonia, ever.

- Macedonians must understand that being a member of NATO and the EU means that Macedonia will lose its independence , says Roberts .

Asked about the new agreement between China and Russia over gas trade with Russia, the U.S. analyst said that " the balance of power in the world is changing ."

- The energy agreement between Russia and China will not be funded in the dollar payments system. This is the first big move of avoiding the U.S. dollar as world reserve currency . Also, the agreement is the beginning of turning Russia to the east and the strategic alliance between Russia and China. Washington 's efforts to prevent the growth of these two forces is doomed, explains Roberts .

At the same time he emphasizes that Western economies suffer from mismanagement and never ending looting.

- Wealth move from the table to the rich or to the "one percent" of the people. Citizens in Western nations are dissatisfied and we are witnessing protests in many countries , concludes Roberts.

Someone finally gets it!
Anyone disagree?