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OziMak, It seems like the figure is down to 75% from around 95% 6 months ago.
Erwan Fuere is doing his best to spread out propaganda.
Erwan Fuere is doing his best to spread out propaganda.
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МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме. -
According to the Greeks:
We are increasingly nationalistic country
The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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Another one:
Повеќе од половина од македонските граѓани би гласале против доколку утре се одржи референдум за промена на името со цел Македонија да се зачлени во ЕУ и НАТО, покажуваат податоците од истражувањето на јавното мислење што во период од 11 до 18 јули го спровел Институтот Павел Шатев.
На прашањето доколку утре се одржи референдум за промена на името со цел Македонија да се зачлени во ЕУ и НАТО:
- 57,4 проценти од граѓаните одговориле дека би гласале против,
- 30,7 за промена на името*,
- а 11,9 немаат одговор.
Дека ќе гласаат за промена се изјасниле 73,70 проценти од испиталиците етнички Албанци*, а само 17 проценти од испитаниците етнички Македонци.
The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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That's cutting it quite close. But 1,000 people is hardly a truly representative sample size.Comment
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The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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disturbing stats .
koy se tie makedontsi prodadeni dusha shto se za menuvale za imeto.
isto , mene me machi, kako mozhebi, da ima totolku mnogu za promena, ova e mnogu seriozna rabota.
Ne mozham da razberam kako go vodat glasayneto vo Republikata 2:1 na strana na shiptarite.
Dali mozhi nekoy da mi obyasni na ova?"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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New Eurobarometer stats:
Кај Македонците паѓа поддршката за членство во ЕУ
The opinion poll says 60% of the citizens in Macedonia think that EU membership is good for the country, 11% deem it is bad and 27% think it is neither good nor bad. Compared to a previous Eurostat poll this past fall, the number of those supporting EU integration has lowered by six percents and of those against it has increased by two percents. Despite dropping to 3%, the number of those believing that EU membership would be beneficial for the country is 73%.
The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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A promising trend. I like it .Originally posted by Bratot View PostNew Eurobarometer stats:
Кај Македонците паѓа поддршката за членство во ЕУ
The opinion poll says 60% of the citizens in Macedonia think that EU membership is good for the country, 11% deem it is bad and 27% think it is neither good nor bad. Compared to a previous Eurostat poll this past fall, the number of those supporting EU integration has lowered by six percents and of those against it has increased by two percents. Despite dropping to 3%, the number of those believing that EU membership would be beneficial for the country is 73%.
Its still to high, but slowly but surely, they will wake up.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873Comment
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The Washington Times: "A place at the table for Macedonia"
A place at the table for Macedonia
Why the disrespect for a loyal American ally?
By Jason Miko
Sept. 8 is the Republic of Macedonia's 19th birthday. Since 1991, Macedonia has worked its way through the painful transition from a socialist state born out of Yugoslavia to the point where it is today - a contributing member of the family of nations, an exporter of stability and a reliable ally of the United States and NATO.
Unfortunately, Macedonia has not been granted its seat at the table and instead has been, in many ways, relegated to the "deal with later" box of the administration's issues. But because Macedonia has earned its place at the table, it deserves a bit more consideration than what it is receiving, especially considering the attention lavished on its southern neighbor, Greece.
Macedonia is an important friend and ally of the United States and NATO, though not yet a full-fledged NATO member because NATO member Greece insists that Macedonia change its name, an absurd request. Yet Macedonia has many of the responsibilities of NATO membership and none of the rights. It's like being asked to serve the table but not take a seat. For example, as a percentage of active service personnel, Macedonia is the fourth-largest contributor to the NATO-led mission in Afghanistan, with 244 troops partnered with the Vermont National Guard. By comparison, Greece comes in at 44th place, with 15 troops. Macedonia also has troops serving in Bosnia and had troops in Iraq. And let's not forget Macedonia's contribution during the 1999 Kosovo conflict: Not only was Macedonia a staging ground for NATO, but it accepted 360,000 Albanian refugees from Kosovo and gave them shelter during the conflict.
On the economy, the government of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski has, among other things, introduced a flat tax of 10 percent on individuals and businesses and has pursued the reforms necessary to create conditions for wealth, which, in turn, contributes to stability. The World Bank report "Doing Business 2010" ranked Macedonia third among top reformers in the world, and Macedonia jumped 22 places in the Heritage Foundation/Wall Street Journal 2010 Economic Freedom Index to rank 56th in the world.
Macedonia continues to be treated as an afterthought, however. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has met with 124 of her counterparts (or in some instances, heads of state or government) in Washington since becoming secretary, including those from all but four of the countries of Europe; Macedonia is one of the four. Somewhat bizarrely, Mrs. Clinton even publicly discussed Macedonia with the Slovenian foreign minister during his July visit but cannot extend the same courtesy to her Macedonian counterpart.
A July 1 article in the Economist notes that America's relations with European allies are good but plagued by snubs and missteps: "President Barack Obama's visit to Prague in April featured a dinner aimed at reassuring and thanking ex-communist allies. But mystifyingly, two of the most loyal ones, Macedonia and Albania, weren't invited. Administration officials apparently forgot that Albania was a NATO member and that Macedonia (FYROM to the Greeks) was a big help in Afghanistan."
To add insult to injury, President Obama welcomed with great fanfare Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou to the White House in March, and Mrs. Clinton has met numerous times with her Greek counterpart. At a minimum, this sends a very negative signal to Macedonia that it is not a valued partner and ally.
Through all this (or reinforced by this) Greece continues to hold Macedonia and her 2 million people hostage by insisting that Macedonia change its name, even within its constitution, and that all countries recognize Macedonia by a name that Greece will practically dictate. This despite the fact that 127 countries, including the United States under President George W. Bush, have recognized Macedonia by its constitutional name, the Republic of Macedonia.
If the Obama administration wants to contribute toward solving the so-called name issue and recognize Macedonia for what it has accomplished, it needs to give a bit more attention to Macedonia. It can start by engaging Macedonia at a higher level, removing the belief that it is one-sided in favor of the Greeks and their unprecedented request. An invitation to the prime minister to visit the president would be a helpful start.
Every people have a right to a name and identity of their choosing. The Macedonian people made that choice on Sept. 8, 1991, when they voted for the independent Republic of Macedonia. The Obama administration at least should show more understanding and listen to Macedonia's views.
Last edited by makalek; 09-03-2010, 06:52 PM.Comment
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I am sure Macedonia would become important if it houses a Russian Military base, asked Russian and Iranian experience in going nuclear to provide our Energy Needs, didn’t recognise Kosovo, welcome Greater Energy Investments in terms of gas and oil pipe lines with Turkey and Russia, overnight those American and European whores will fuel another Albanian Armened incursion.
I shake my head with never ending farken frustration Macedonians don’t get how much respect they will win if they end that illogical, immoral talk fest with our Southern neighbour and dare to be brave. Not until the two Macedonian Political parties pull together not continue this disgusting and immature game of Political taunts aimed at each other
No to NATO
No to the EU
We dont need eitherComment
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It is a big shame that no matter how much Macedonia help and give support they get no respect in return.
It seems to me that Obama has fallen into Greece's trap of lies.
Macedonia deserves better then that, don't they?Comment
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Nice job Jason, thank you
AlexComment
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Greeks have black roots
obama is black
they have rooting in common"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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Julie, we can take this to its natural conclusion...Originally posted by julie View Post
Greeks have black roots
obama is black
they have rooting in common
they're fucked in the head.Comment
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