Protest in Stip 18.04.2016

[Bill77]

Guys, can I ask the locals if there's been any heavy breathing from the Albanians??? I just feel they are sitting very quiet at the moment..

Your thoughts???

This from Cvetin Chilimanov who works for MIA who I follow on Twitter
Dragan would probably claim MIA are part of VMRO axis of evil.....but I've whitnessed Cvetin's anti EU and NATO tweets and the many battles against Greek media reporters on Twitter, Cvetin is a true patriot... And a well informed one.

"SDSM got a guy who says Macedonians are Bulgarians to lead their rally in Veles. In Skopje they invite ex-UCK to rally #SelfInflictedWounds"

If true, SDSM are worse than I thought.

[DraganOfStip]

https://www.facebook.com/gledytv/vid...6630541767445/

Not sure who this bloke is..... But I assume he is pro VMRO
I like his passion, would make a good leader..... Or he could just be another wolf in sheets clothing.

You really don't recognize him?
That's Toni Mihajlovski, a great Macedonian actor / comedian.He starred in almost every Macedonian film since the 90's onward.
He's known for his DPMNE leanings,not long ago he became the house manager of the Drama Theater (I assume a "reward" for his support of the current regime).

[Risto the Great]

What better stage than the political arena?!

[DraganOfStip]

Dragan would probably claim MIA are part of VMRO axis of evil...

I'd say they're more of a DPMNE propaganda tool like other media like TV stations Sitel, Kanal 5, Alfa and the public service MRTV,internet portals Kurir,Republika,Netpres,Press24,Puls24 etc or "independent journalists" like Milenko, Janko, Latas etc.
They're just one piece of the vast DPMNE brainwashing machinery puzzle that simply push the party lines instead of delivering real news to the public.
But hey, axis of evil...I like that

[Bill77]

You really don't recognize him?
That's Toni Mihajlovski, a great Macedonian actor / comedian.He starred in almost every Macedonian film since the 90's onward.
He's known for his DPMNE leanings,not long ago he became the house manager of the Drama Theater (I assume a "reward" for his support of the current regime).

Now that you mentioned it, I recognise him from the movie (one of my favourites) Balkankan who plays Dzango who tries to arrest Trendafil and at the same time, get into Trendafils wife's pants lol

So he is an actor...... So are all politicians, so he would fit in.

[DraganOfStip]

[DraganOfStip]

This was too powerful not to share.
Tihomir Janchevski,a professor and a poet (FB status):

Почитувани контрапротестанти, ако оние против чии протести протестирате протестираат против аболицијата на претседателот и за оставка на истиот, против кого или што протестирате вие? Или по инерција слушате што ќе ви се каже, се качувате во автобус и не прашувате многу? Како и толку пати порано па ви створија навика? И ако Заев (а мене лично тој провинциски градоначалник не ми е нималку симпатичен и сметам дека никако не смее да биде следен премиер) е "црпнатиот", што е тогаш Иванов? Немате убав збор и за него? Тие што ви држат говори на омраза не му смислија прекар соодветен на умот и однесувањето? Еве, да ви кажам.

И тој, како и вие, му е клиент и должник на Груевски, тој и нему како и вам му нашол работа на "државно" и му најде гласачи и овој мора да си "одработи" за добиеното работно место, само неговото е претседател на државата, и тоа втор мандат, а вие сте тоа што сте. И овој пат му е речено да објави аболиција, и тој тоа послушно го направи, зашто е таков, како домазет на времето, има слика нема тон. Мора да слуша, кутриот, голема услуга му е направена. Токму со неговата недоветна објава тој предизвика огромен револт и граѓански немири, и сега вие протестирате во негова полза?

И сите ваши говорници од вчера се дебело нафатирани од парите и позициите што им ги доделил лидерот на вмро дпмне. И тие одработуваат, еднаш кога се продале сега не можат да застанат. Газдата сите ве плаќа од буџетот. И вие и претседателот сте во иста позиција. Видете, клиентелизмот е ужасна појава и е одамна опишана во учебниците за корупција. Ова е тоа. Вие сте им бројка што ја прикажуваат како поддршка, тоа ви е улогата.

Да живеевте во нормална држава ќе имавте право на живот и на работа и без партиска книшка и одработување и гласање и контрапротестирање секогаш кога ќе ви побараат. Ве користат почитувани, ве притискаат и искористуваат на најпедерски можен начин, и не сакам што е така. Криминалците нека си одговараат, и оние од вмро и оние од сдсм, секој според мерата на стореното, Иванов нека ја повлече аболицијата на 56-те политичари и нека даде оставка, тоа сите го сакаме, нели? Не сум ни соросоид, ни сдсмовец (далеку било), ни платеник, ни предавник, а вие видете самите и размислете дали ова што ви го кажувам е така или не е. Имам само една држава, Република Македонија, и сакам таа да опстане.

[DraganOfStip]

Protests in the diaspora have also happened according to media (Berlin,London,Vienna,New York...).
The last few days there were protests in Melbourne and Canberra.
Did any of you heard about this or possibly even attend?How many people were present?

[vicsinad]

I read that the one in Vienna was more of an anti-international intervention in Macedonian affairs.

[DraganOfStip]

I read that the one in Vienna was more of an anti-international intervention in Macedonian affairs.

Nah,you read about the counter-protest organized the previous day .
I have two friends that live and work in Vienna,they both attended the protest.He told me there were around 75-100 people (I'm not sure about the exact number of Macedonians living in Vienna).

[vicsinad]

Dragan:

You're right, it was MINA who reported the protest I was referring to. In this article, MINA says there are around 5,000 Macedonians in and around Vienna, and that 300 attended the protest.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/29319/2/

[DraganOfStip]

Dragan:

You're right, it was MINA who reported the protest I was referring to. In this article, MINA says there are around 5,000 Macedonians in and around Vienna, and that 300 attended the protest.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/29319/2/

Yeah, my friend posted a pic of the "counter-protesters" and joked about how their number was overblown while in fact you could count them on the fingers of your hands.This is the pic posted on all government media.
These are the 300 protesters.

[vicsinad]

I certainly believe it was overblown -- numbers are usually overblown. At the same time, I also take photos with a grain of salt because they usually don't tell the whole story.

Regardless, I haven't heard of any protests/demonstrations in any of the major North American Diaspora centers. From the handful of people I have talked to, there just seems to be a lot of confusion and suspicion about everything and everyone.

[DraganOfStip]

I even read that in front of the Macedonian Consulate in Melbourne there was a conflict between the protesters and the "counter-protesters" in which the police had to intervene to ensure it doesn't escalate.
Do any of the Melbourne Macedonians here have any info about this,is it true?

[Risto the Great]

The protesting in Macedonia seems to have legs. It is still going now?