dOes anyone know if Hollande will recognise macedonia by her constitutional name??
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"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Does anybody know exactly what positions Hollande has for France ? Or is he just another immigrant friendly socialist making empty promises ? Europe needs austerity measures, without them they will end up bloated like the USA. There really is no way around it. Does it suck ? Yes, it does. Is it for the better long term ? Yes, it is. You cant just spend your way out of a problem without bringing in income. What I like about Sarkozy is his stance against foreigners and that they have to conform to society or else they dont belong here. Le Pen is also a refreshing candadite but unfortunatly I dont see that happening. The Far Right in general is making ground across Europe. For the first time I can remember Chrysi Avgi is over 5 percent in the election ratings slated for May 6th and growing. To be honest Im growing more sympathetic to them every day that passes.Last edited by Voltron; 04-23-2012, 04:56 PM.
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Originally posted by George S. View PostdOes anyone know if Hollande will recognise macedonia by her constitutional name??
Hollande is even more Eurofanatic than Sarkozy and he is also in bed with Armenian diaspora in France, which automatically makes him pro-Greek too.
Originally posted by Voltron View Postis he just another immigrant friendly socialist making empty promises?
For the first time I can remember Chrysi Avgi is over 5 percent in the election ratings slated for May 6th and growing. To be honest Im growing more sympathetic to them every day that passes.
Their biggest success can be slaughtering pigs in front of Ottoman era mosques or demolishing Turkish graves but thats it.
Golden Down`s increase in support for most likely your country`s miserable condition and nothing to do with the party itself. I mean, even if you have enough funds to create a political party and air some commercials on tv channels, i bet you would have a chance to get 5% in Greece because people mostly likely fed up with the existing parties and looking for new stuff even if it`s only few delusional fascists.
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Originally posted by Voltron View PostFor the first time I can remember Chrysi Avgi is over 5 percent in the election ratings slated for May 6th and growing. To be honest Im growing more sympathetic to them every day that passes.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by George S. View PostdOes anyone know if Hollande will recognise macedonia by her constitutional name??
The French will be sorry for Sarkozy and even more so for Hollande like the USA people were who voted for Bush because Clinton was crap only to find bigger crap in Bush so then they switched to Obama as the savoir only to get even bigger crap - the old imaginary left/right paradigme while in the background Sarkozy and Hollande have dinner and drinks - remember the photos of the Bush's and Obama's together?, yeah we really hate each other, Not!
They treat the public like fools because that's how they behave, although it is a self fulfilling prophesy because of the chemicals they pump into our food, water, toiletries, household/industrial products are dumbing down society while exploding diseases - once, a very long lime ago, a eg sports star would visit a young child with cancer and it was newsworthy because it was a rare event while now children with cancer are common and told they are 'in the club' and get special exclusive toys in hospitals. It is not impossible to turn it around but the likes of Le Pen, Ron Paul and Rand Paul and the General with a Polish sounding name I can't think of now, and Nigel Farange and the likes need to win - WE the people have the power to vote in our salvation if we can keep a sane thought together long enough to the next election.
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Originally posted by Brian View PostHollande is also a Jew........In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostYou've always been sympathetic to those racist maggots because you think just like they do. Holding your tongue on forums like this doesn't make you any different to them.
Onur, GD may not be as "finessed" as France's Le Pen's party but they both share the same ideas along with every other far right party in Europe.Last edited by Voltron; 04-24-2012, 04:13 AM.
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Originally posted by Voltron View PostSOM, I am sympathtic to those that love the country and are willing to go the extra mile for it.
Chrysi Avgi will go after the corrupt politicians, prosecute, and jail them for treason. I believe it when they say that.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Hey I dont agree with everything they do and I dont agree with how they treat other ethnic people that have lived in Greece for ages. However, they are the only ones that are willing to prosecute these treasonous bastards we have right now and they are the only ones that will stop the flow of foreign elements into my country. We have been governed for over the past 40 years by these democratic parties that have caused more damage from their corrupt and crooked ways. Its not like I have a lot of options here.
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Originally posted by VoltronIts not like I have a lot of options here.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Yeah but you would if they were willing to lynch your politicians for supporting hostile elements in government. Of if they were willing to void the name negotiations or the Ohrid agreement for that matter. Nobody has ever been lynched, just harassed and intimidated and with the exception of Macedonians I really dont have a problem with it. I may feel sorry for some Pakistani but thats about as far as it goes for me. They really have to find somewhere else to go to.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostNot that it should matter, but what evidence is there for Hollande having a Jewish origin? I don't know much about the case but it seems like he comes from a Catholic family.
He's a 'lefty' anyway.
France is approaching the 'point of no return' - it's not as alarming as it sounds as it is a bit of a way to go but measures need to be considered while there is time and not when it becomes a burning issue.
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[QUOTE][Chrysi Avgi will go after the corrupt politicians, prosecute, and jail them for treason. I believe it when they say that. Thats why our political spectrum are shaking right now if they gain power. /QUOTE]
I think this may have an element of naeivity about it. Remember the " beware Greeks bearing gifts" statement? kinda reminds me of this!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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[QUOTE=Brian;126197]Originally posted by makedonche View PostVoltron
So true makedonce, is there 1 Greek who isn't corrupt?
Actions speak louder than words. You may think they have ulterior motives, but I cant help but feel that they really do care about the country.
PASTA AT THE DOORSTEP
In working class neighbourhoods of Athens, Golden Dawn has been quietly building itself up as a friendly, reliable face among hard-hit Greeks that the state has failed to help.
For over a year, party members have given needy families bags of rice and pasta, olive oil and clothes in cartons labelled: "I vote for Golden Dawn to clean up the place" and "For Athens to become Greek again".
Former Socialist voter Katerina Karousi, a 76-year old cancer patient, broke down in sobs when party members showed up at her doorstep with large bags of food on Friday morning.
"I hear they are doing nice things for people. Why not vote for them?" said her husband, 79-year old Andreas Karoussis.
On their way out, a Golden Dawn member bade the couple farewell with: "Call us if you need anything - I mean anything."
At another stop, 41-year-old Constantina Tassiou looked bewildered and overwhelmed as Golden Dawn members piled clothes and supermarket bags at her doorstep.
"It's the first time someone has brought us clothes and food. Only the church has helped us so far," said Tassiou, an epilepsy sufferer whose family lives on her welfare benefits. "I'll vote for Golden Dawn, maybe it's time for something new."
Elsewhere, Golden Dawn escorts the elderly who are wary of immigrants to bank ATMs, said spokesman Elias Panagiotaros.
The group has little sympathy for the political class. Politicians behind Greece's crisis must be hauled before a special court, jailed and their property seized, the group says, while any Greek refusing to join the conscript army will be stripped of their citizenship and exiled.
^ The highlighted part in bold is what means the most to me. They are the only party openly stating this. I will vote for any party that can make that happen. These bastards must serve time and their possession taken away from them and their families. That and immigration of course.Last edited by Voltron; 04-26-2012, 07:24 AM.
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