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  • DraganOfStip
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1253

    ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
    ― George Orwell

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      I heard how its all backfired on donald as especially him acting as the prezidential showpony.He is trying to be yhe predidential hopefull.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • DraganOfStip
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1253

        Meanwhile back to the original subject of the thread:



        ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
        ― George Orwell

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        • Vangelovski
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 8532

          The Swedish utopia we keep hearing about.

          Too bad no one can protect themselves or their property (including it seems the police), but why would anyone want to do that? These poor rioters are just misunderstood products of "society", its not their fault...hang on, Swedish society is perfect isn't it?

          Last edited by Vangelovski; 10-09-2015, 07:42 AM.
          If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

          The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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          • DraganOfStip
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1253

            gangs of immigrants spent a fifth consecutive night rioting in Stockholm
            So,Swedes showed humility and kindness to people who came there allegedly fleeing war, only to have them turn round and spit in their face.
            They came to the country and they're causing problems.How's this fault of the Swedes again?


            The disturbances, which have lasted longer than the riots in England in the summer of 2011, started last week after police shot dead a foreign-born pensioner who threatened to attack them with a machete.
            There you go.Next time let him butcher the cops and there will be peace.

            Growing unrest turned to violence last Sunday in a north-western suburb called Husby – where more than 80 per cent of the residents are from overseas, mostly Turkey, Somalia and the Middle East.
            But wait,where are all the Swedes that are "waiting for hours to buy stale bread, living in a dilapidated one-bedroom apartment with no power, running water or sewage, being abused by hospital staff, putting up with the whims of corrupt bureaucrats and being told by the state what to believe and how to behave"?
            Why aren't they rioting along with their co-opressed victims of social democracy?

            Sweden is still relatively affluent, with living standards among the highest in Europe
            Good,I managed to find one peace of correct info in the entire text.
            By the way,I'm attaending a wedding of Macedonians who live in Karlskrona,Sweden for some 7-8 years on Sunday here in Stip,I'll make sure I give this forum a first-hand experience of how things are in Sweden.
            But giving the fact that he already owns a car workshop while she stays home taking care of their 2 children and the state actually PAYS her while doing that,I can sense in which direction the conversation will go.
            ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
            ― George Orwell

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            • Vangelovski
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 8532

              Relax Dragan, you're living the dream in Macedonia - its a classic product of socialism. Everyone in the west is clamoring to come but we can't get visas...even Russia or Cuba would do. Ultimately though, I think everyone that I know wants to get to North Korea, but their entry standards are too high.
              If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

              The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                Those immigrants aren't genuine refugees just country shopping.Also a certain element has isil people .
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • DraganOfStip
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1253

                  So it turns out Facebook (a company with worth around $245 billion )paid just £4,327 of corporate tax for 2014, while the average worker in the UK pays around £5,392.8 in income tax and national insurance contributions.
                  Donald Trump Likes this
                  Long live capitalism!

                  ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                  ― George Orwell

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    DOS how about apple ships out 6 billion dollars from Australia to Ireland.It only declared 166 million sales from its Australian ioerations.You got other giants Microsoft etc
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • DraganOfStip
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1253

                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
                      DOS how about apple ships out 6 billion dollars from Australia to Ireland.It only declared 166 million sales from its Australian ioerations.You got other giants Microsoft etc
                      That's an even better example.
                      ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                      ― George Orwell

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        Thanks dragon I know there is.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • DraganOfStip
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 1253

                          ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                          ― George Orwell

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                          • MHRMI
                            Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 132

                            Make America Respected Again

                            Make America Respected Again

                            Bill Nicholov, President
                            Macedonian Human Rights Movement International

                            July 26, 2016


                            It’s bad enough to have to hear a US presidential candidate claim to know everything there is to know about…everything, and how to make it all great again. But it’s unbearable to listen to the claims of such a vast array of knowledge, and the touting of such experience and success that if one dares support the other candidate, they must be a complete idiot. Just thinking about this person running the most powerful country in the world, and US foreign policy in particular, is unnerving to say the least. The sheer arrogance of these claims is what makes America despised again. Yes, the candidate I’m referring to is, of course, Hillary Clinton.

                            Hillary Clinton can learn a thing or two about being humble from Donald Trump. Scary, but true. Whatever one may feel about his rants, Trump has the common sense to say that the US doesn’t have the right to lecture other countries. Trump realizes that it is America’s foreign policy that is despised. Trump doesn’t want to interfere in other countries’ internal affairs, but his detractors are too shallow to look past the delivery of his message to understand his actual words. Trump’s message to “Make America Great Again”, while (American) cheesy, is saying that there is something wrong with the United States right now. And there is. Fix it.

                            A select few other American politicians have run on similar platforms, but they’re not in the race anymore. But this isn’t about Donald Trump. It isn’t really about Hillary Clinton either. It’s about (almost) every American politician, regardless of which party, continuing the decades-old American foreign policy of intervention, destruction, and evacuation. The mess that the US leaves behind is evident for generations to come. America, you have no right to impose your will on any other country and claim that you have the moral authority to do so. Focus on yourselves, take care of your own citizens and, if you feel that you must provide “guidance” to the rest of the world, do so by example, not by force.

                            Look at the mess that is the Macedonia name dispute. Since American elections include much talk about religion, look at what the Bible states, “…Paul had a vision of a man in Macedonia standing and pleading with him, ‘Come over to Macedonia and help us.’” He did not say “Come over to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and help us.” Let’s keep this short and sweet, much like America’s involvement in Macedonia should be. Greece admitted that it created this artificial dispute as a way to wipe Macedonia off the map. These words are echoed by the first UN negotiator for the name dispute, Robin O’Neil. The United States has recognized Macedonia, yet tries to appease Greece by demanding a “compromise” (name change). So herein lies the continued use of the “temporary” UN term “FYROM” or “Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia”. Would any other country, negotiate, or be forced to negotiate its own name? Macedonia has existed since before Biblical times, while Greece is a modern creation. Greece annexed part of Macedonia’s territory in 1913, tried to eradicate its very existence, then changed its policy of never using the “M” word to claiming that Macedonia’s land always belonged to Greece, yet, the Macedonian people still don’t exist. It’s really a “doth protest too much” moment. If anything, Greece should be forced to change its name and its history of cultural appropriation.

                            As former US Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger, once famously said “The name dispute is unnecessary and unfounded, since Macedonia was called the same in the time of former Yugoslavia and this did not cause any problems then…Greece claims that Macedon or Macedonia, as well as Alexander of Macedonia are its own. This is a false claim and it is time someone confirms this. The Ancient Greeks considered Macedonia a half-civilized region, representing a source of raw materials and nothing more. Macedonia's rise in the time of Phillip and his son Alexander was greeted with opposition, resulting in a defeat of several cities. Phillip and Alexander were considered tyrants who destroy Greeks' freedom. The claims of modern Greeks that the ancient kingdom of Macedon was their own ignores a historic fact. Ancient Greeks had never been eager in claiming Macedonia was theirs and they never accepted either Phillip or Alexander as their own legitimate rulers. The Greek claim about Macedonia is based on historically incorrect information and is therefore not fact-based." Mr. Eagleburger went on to say that it is “not wise for a foreigner to interfere with the internal affairs of another state.” To quote a favourite American pastime, “Bingo!”

                            So there is hope. America, usher in a new era of responsible foreign policy by denouncing the name negotiations as an attack on common sense and Macedonia’s self-determination and human rights. Donald Trump, denounce the name dispute and prove that you “Love the Macedonians”. Secure the Macedonian-American vote in the process. Hillary Clinton, you have called for Macedonia to change its name to appease Greece, yet your supporters claim that you’re a champion of human rights. Please admit that your experience does not equal expertise. Look to the words of one of your predecessors, Mr. Eagleburger, for guidance. And let’s all watch Macedonia, one day, walk in with dignity behind the letter “M” for Macedonia instead of “F” for “Former Yugoslav…” in the Olympic games. One can only pray that common sense prevails.

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                            Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) has been active on human and national rights issues for Macedonians and other oppressed peoples since 1986. For more information: 1-416-850-7125, [email protected], www.mhrmi.org, www.twitter.com/mhrmi, www.facebook.com/mhrmi, www.mhrmi.org/OurNameIsMacedonia

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                            • DraganOfStip
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1253

                              Wikileaks show Democrats undermined Bernie to favor Hillary

                              20,000 freshly-leaked emails reveal resentful disdain toward Sanders, as party favored Clinton long before any votes were cast.


                              In its recent leak of 20,000 DNC emails from January 2015 to May 2016, DNC staff discuss how to deal with Bernie Sanders’ popularity as a challenge to Clinton’s candidacy. Instead of treating Sanders as a viable candidate for the Democratic ticket, the DNC worked against him and his campaign to ensure Clinton received the nomination
                              Well well,looks like "the greatest country in the world" has it's flaws when it comes to elections too...
                              ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                              ― George Orwell

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                              • Risto the Great
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15658

                                It's an utter fiasco!
                                Risto the Great
                                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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