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  • Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4671

    Who would have thought that the US Deep State would have the balls (and power) to roll out the proven Colour Revolution model to unseat the incumbent...?

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    • Karposh
      Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 863

      Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
      Who would have thought that the US Deep State would have the balls (and power) to roll out the proven Colour Revolution model to unseat the incumbent...?
      Yep, looks rigged to me. Trump was leading in about 4-5 key states before I went to bed last night and this morning I wake up to this.

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      • Phoenix
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4671

        Originally posted by Karposh View Post
        Yep, looks rigged to me. Trump was leading in about 4-5 key states before I went to bed last night and this morning I wake up to this.
        Those bloody yanks what a fucking circus...the Biden Harris/Sanders shit-show will ultimately be in a state of limbo until the mid term elections at least...it will be amusing to watch how patient their marxist base will remain in the meantime...

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        • VMRO
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1462

          There are some shady things being exposed online, some people are pretty stupid incriminating themselves in voting fraud. W

          You cannot blame the Republicans being concerned with postal and the way they can be manipulated.

          Liban Mohammed exposes himself on his own snapchat, by showing ballot harvesting for Ilham Omar campaign in the September 2020 elections in Minnesota.

          Last edited by VMRO; 11-05-2020, 04:59 PM.
          Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

          Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
            Who would have thought that the US Deep State would have the balls (and power) to roll out the proven Colour Revolution model to unseat the incumbent...?
            For the last 4 years, they have tried to drag him through the mud with all sorts of falsehoods and conspiracies. One would think that after such scrutiny they would've found something that would stick. But they haven't. Instead, once all of that failed, they diverted their energy to shielding his opponent from the credible allegations of corruption during his earlier tenure, not to mention his incompetence and senility. Even many former and current republic politicians and party affiliates were/are actively working against the president, despite the fact that he is largely responsible for the party's renewed appeal to Americans of all walks of life. The so-called "racist" shaped policy that won record-high support with Hispanic and African-American voters - something that would not have been achieved if one of the corporatist republican suits was at the helm. They've continually discounted the 'Trump-factor', but they will remember this in years to come.

            In 2016, the losers complained about some purported Russian interference, as if some bloggers or websites could hoodwink half of the population to vote for Trump. They failed miserably in their attempt to prove some sort of collusion between Trump and Russia. What actually happened in that election was they underestimated him and undervalued the people, so the result caught them by surprise. In 2020, the internal political machinery of the U.S. said to the Russians, "here, hold my beer, let me show you how it's done". All of them - the establishment, deep state, pollsters, tech, media - united for a singular purpose. They were supposed to destroy him in this election. They didn't. Now there is this debacle where people aren't allowed to monitor vote counts, mail-in votes are accepted days after the election date and without matching signatures, large margins disappear over night, states are called well before a conclusive outcome, etc. The guy with the enthusiasm of a worm who didn't know which state he was in or what race he was running half of the time and could barely muster a hundred people during a speech, possibly defeating the incumbent who would pull in tens of thousands of people during his rallies? OK. Only in America, I suppose.
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • Phoenix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4671

              Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
              For the last 4 years, they have tried to drag him through the mud with all sorts of falsehoods and conspiracies. One would think that after such scrutiny they would've found something that would stick. But they haven't. Instead, once all of that failed, they diverted their energy to shielding his opponent from the credible allegations of corruption during his earlier tenure, not to mention his incompetence and senility. Even many former and current republic politicians and party affiliates were/are actively working against the president, despite the fact that he is largely responsible for the party's renewed appeal to Americans of all walks of life. The so-called "racist" shaped policy that won record-high support with Hispanic and African-American voters - something that would not have been achieved if one of the corporatist republican suits was at the helm. They've continually discounted the 'Trump-factor', but they will remember this in years to come.

              In 2016, the losers complained about some purported Russian interference, as if some bloggers or websites could hoodwink half of the population to vote for Trump. They failed miserably in their attempt to prove some sort of collusion between Trump and Russia. What actually happened in that election was they underestimated him and undervalued the people, so the result caught them by surprise. In 2020, the internal political machinery of the U.S. said to the Russians, "here, hold my beer, let me show you it's done". All of them - the establishment, deep state, pollsters, tech, media - united for a singular purpose. They were supposed to destroy him in this election. They didn't. Now there is this debacle where people aren't allowed to monitor vote counts, mail-in votes are accepted days after the election date and without matching signatures, large margins disappear over night, states are called well before a conclusive outcome, etc. The guy with the enthusiasm of a worm who didn't know which state he was in or what race he was running half of the time and could barely muster a hundred people during a speech, possibly defeating the incumbent who would pull in tens of thousands of people during his rallies? OK. Only in America, I suppose.
              It's amazing watching the mainstream media and how they are spinning these post election controversies, now that their guy is about to stumble over the finish line.
              Many media organisations cut short Trump's most recent speech once he alleged voter fraud and that he will be challenging the results in several states.

              The media justification for cutting the Trump speech short was to "fact check" his claims.
              All of a sudden - "fact checking" matters and the media has now assumed the mantle of supreme arbiter much like what Jack Dorsey is doing over at Twitter.

              Where was "fact checking" during the last 4 years of the Russian 'collusion' lie...where was the "fact-checking" when the same media organisations relentlessly went after Trump, his wife and all of his children every day for the last 4 years...everything from Donald jr having dubious connections to Russia based on someone having seen him having lunch with some guy in NYC...or the constant headlines declaring Melania Trump's loveless marriage...or the green-eyed scrutiny of her 'militaristic' wardrobe that somehow proved that she was a fascist, not to mention the investigative journalism that exposed her white supremacist landscaping style in the rose garden ...or the disgusting treatment dished out to Barron Trump, questioning this young kids "happiness" and mental health.

              Regarding the polls from 2016 and 2020, the mainstream media in both the USA (and Australia) is at rock bottom in the credibility stakes -the political pundits and talking heads employed by the networks have proven to be useless with their predictions, they can't be that bad at their job unless it has been a deliberate and nefarious strategy to undermine the Trump administration and his base all along...

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                The highlight for me is the support by the blacks and Hispanics for Trump. Meanwhile BLM with their billion dollar funding had more to do with Biden than black people.

                I was kind of disgusted with USA when Trump won. Now I'm disillusioned and furious with a nation that purports to represent the pinnacle of democracy.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Phoenix
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4671

                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  The highlight for me is the support by the blacks and Hispanics for Trump...
                  ...and they told us ad nauseam that Trump was a racist, it was the prevailing narrative during his term in office and it worked to convince enough woke white folks to despise the man for that alone...the litmus test of this was talking to any person in your immediate social or work circle, ask any anti-Trumper why they hate him and they usually lead with - "because he's an idiot" or "because he's a racist"...once either or both of those reasons were ticked off there was never much more on offer as to why they hated the man...

                  Hispanics, not that they represent a generic bloc but by in large many of them fear socialism and by default the Biden/Harris/Sanders/AOC socialist agenda...amongst many other reasons.

                  The African American community is slowly waking up to the realisation that support for the Democrats has rarely improved their lot in US life.
                  Kimberly Klacik made that point about Baltimore that has been run by Democrats for almost 50 years and the city has been run into the ground...

                  Democrats don’t want you to see this.They’re scared that I’m exposing what life is like in Democrat run cities.That’s why I’m running for CongressBecause All...


                  She didn't win but she has probably sowed a few seeds...

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                    ......they can't be that bad at their job unless it has been a deliberate and nefarious strategy to undermine the Trump administration and his base all along...
                    It's a deliberate and nefarious strategy. They're in cahoots with the media and neither bothers to hide their Leftist agenda. Look at the news coverage and polls from recent elections in Australia, Britain and America. Objectivity was discarded from their list of priorities long ago. Speak the truth or disagree with them and you're a (fill in the blank) -ist. Highlight their hypocrisy and you're silenced or ignored.
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    I was kind of disgusted with USA when Trump won. Now I'm disillusioned and furious with a nation that purports to represent the pinnacle of democracy.
                    In 2016, his inexperience in politics led him to make some poorly-worded and impromptu statements. His opponents used them to claim that he would implement policies that discriminate against minorities, deport millions of people, start wars, etc. He won the election anyway. In 2020, his record on the economy, jobs growth, criminal justice reform, border security, supreme court and foreign policy (no new wars) only endeared him to more people, particularly those who were repeatedly told to hate him. One could easily argue that his chances of winning had increased substantially, but somehow, after all of these accomplishments, Biden, who has been hiding in his basement during most of the campaign period, has a better chance than Clinton to beat Trump. Tell me when any of that starts making sense.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                      It's a deliberate and nefarious strategy. They're in cahoots with the media and neither bothers to hide their Leftist agenda. Look at the news coverage and polls from recent elections in Australia, Britain and America. Objectivity was discarded from their list of priorities long ago. Speak the truth or disagree with them and you're a (fill in the blank) -ist. Highlight their hypocrisy and you're silenced or ignored.
                      I find myself yelling at the tv or radio anytime I'm watching or listening to the fucking ABC tv or radio...on election day they had Biden up almost double the tally on states won compared to Trump...meanwhile on Sky News the tally was far closer (and accurate)

                      The same shit was happening in the US where they were projecting Biden wins after a relatively small sample count but refusing to call Trump states until the very last minute...that represents a clear strategy to manipulate the perception that Biden is winning easily and acts to shape peoples motivation to participate in the voting process across the other side of the country in different time zones...

                      Even today...ABC tv and radio had assembled their usual unhinged left apologists explaining why Trump's speech today was taken off the air because they wanted to fact check him and some lefty lunatic on ABC radio going on a rant that the mainstream media isn't calling out Trump as a bad loser and that they are somehow enabling his bad behaviour, even though the female presenter on tv had described Trump's speech as "unhinged"...in each case they had discounted every accusation of voter fraud or irregularities - weren't interested in the slightest to investigate the story...similar to the lack of interest in the Hunter Biden story...

                      I don't believe for a minute the journalism has become that lazy and indifferent...this is without any doubt a unified agenda at play...if they (the mainstream media and big tech) can get away with this against the most powerful office in the world and against 50% of the voters of the most powerful nation in human history, there is no chance for the rest of us.

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13670

                        Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                        I find myself yelling at the tv or radio anytime I'm watching or listening to the fucking ABC tv or radio...
                        Public funding should have been cut from the ABC long ago. It is the least objective news channel in Australia.
                        The same shit was happening in the US where they were projecting Biden wins after a relatively small sample count but refusing to call Trump states until the very last minute...
                        A special mention should be made about Fox News. Whilst they may have a number of folks whose views are more aligned with the president, there are many there that also dislike him. That was evident on election day, when they called Arizona for Biden way before the result was conclusive, whereas the anti-Trump networks are still yet to call it. So, even Fox News, the only one that is supposedly "pro-Trump" among the big networks, turned on him to a certain extent. Curious to know what people like Tucker and Laura think about that. And just have a look at what some in the media think of their role in the presidential elections:
                        https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-yo...ner-news-media

                        The New York Times was forced to correct a tweet on Tuesday after the paper initially claimed that “the role of declaring the winner” in the presidential election "falls to the news media." “The role of declaring the winner of a presidential election in the U.S. falls to the news media. The broadcast networks and cable news outlets have vowed to be prudent. He’s how it will work,” The Times’ verified account tweeted to accompany a link to an article about how the media will report election results.....“Correction: We've deleted an earlier tweet that referred imprecisely to the role of the news media in the U.S. presidential election. The news media projects winners and reports results; it does not declare the winner of the election,” The Times wrote Tuesday.
                        Freudian slip (barely).
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • Karposh
                          Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 863

                          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                          ...and they told us ad nauseam that Trump was a racist, it was the prevailing narrative during his term in office and it worked to convince enough woke white folks to despise the man for that alone...the litmus test of this was talking to any person in your immediate social or work circle, ask any anti-Trumper why they hate him and they usually lead with - "because he's an idiot" or "because he's a racist"...once either or both of those reasons were ticked off there was never much more on offer as to why they hated the man...
                          Spot on Phoenix (on all your recent posts regarding Trump and the US election). To break up the boredom of working from home each day, once a week I head off to the office where we engage in some light-hearted banter about Trump and the great political divide in America of Left & Right. I have made no secret of where I lean politically at work and, besides some harmless banter, no one really takes things too seriously…until this election that is. How quickly I have come to realise that it’s definitely a Leftist’s world and, conservatives like me, are in the minority who are looked down on as, not just backward, but, quite frankly, stupid and idiotic. I posed the question, if we take the personality of Trump out of the equation for a second, what is it about him that they dislike so much? Well, he’s too backward was the response. Okay, what makes so backward then? …The answers came thick and fast: He’s a racist (top of the list, naturally), he’s against women’s right to choose (with regard to abortion), he’s anti LGBT, he’s a misogynist, he’s for the nuclear/traditional family (yes, even this was an issue), and it went on. He hasn’t done too badly with regard to the economy though, I pleaded. The word is that African American employment has been the highest it’s ever been. The response: it was already heading that way under Barack Obama apparently and Trump was just riding Obama’s wave of economic success and claiming it as his own achievement, as he normally does. That’s when I realised I’m better off working from home permanently. These are not the sort of people I want to associate with quite frankly. I’m over it. The leftist agenda has permeated all facets of civil society: media, work, even social circles. I’m done.

                          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                          I don't believe for a minute the journalism has become that lazy and indifferent...this is without any doubt a unified agenda at play...if they (the mainstream media and big tech) can get away with this against the most powerful office in the world and against 50% of the voters of the most powerful nation in human history, there is no chance for the rest of us.
                          Just to illustrate this point with one my own examples, I switched on to channel seven during their live coverage of the election and the anti-Trump unified front was there for all to see…Ditto the rest of them but, sticking with just channel seven’s coverage for this example, Angela Cox, in analysing how many electoral votes the Democrats would need to get in one of the key states, for a moment forgot that she was meant to be a “professional” and impartial journalist and accidentally stated for all to hear: “It looks like we need…” before sheepishly correcting herself, “the Democrats need…”

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                          • Phoenix
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4671

                            Karposh,

                            My workplace experiences are largely the same as yours but without the luxury of being able to work from home.
                            I’m not in the shy-Trump supporter category, so everyone that I work with knows that I support Trump.

                            I work with a lot of women who by in large aren’t too interested in talking politics but they seem to have an almost rabid obsession to denigrate Trump on everything.

                            On mere mention of the poor mans name, it’s like some subliminal switch has been activated in the deepest, darkest recesses of these women’s minds and their fangs sharpen and they get a taste for blood in a Pavlov’s Dog type reaction...whilst automatically regurgitating the anti-Trump media narrative of he’s an...’idiot’, ‘racist’, ‘lunatic’...etc...with mantra like zeal.

                            I try to bring up Trump as often as I can...just for the reaction alone...

                            It is interesting as a phenomena alone, that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing...the cult of anti-personality.
                            The mainstream media and big tech have cultivated that perception and not a single one of those women (and the gays) that I work with can see that, they all actually believe that they’ve come to their own rational conclusion.

                            That realization is profoundly frightening.

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              Labor urges Scott Morrison to contact Donald Trump

                              Labor is piling pressure on Prime Minister Scott Morrison to contact Donald Trump before the US election result is in. Subscribe: https://bit.ly/2noaGhv Get ...


                              The Left in Australia is urging the Prime Minister to call the U.S. President and tell him to call it a day. The nerve of these people. Their sense of self-importance, like they actually matter in global politics, is comical. No doubt similar thoughts are held by leftist politicians all across Europe, not to mention NATO and the EU.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Soldier of Macedon
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 13670

                                The media have anointed Biden as the victor even though there is ongoing litigation due to potential irregularities. Like I mentioned earlier, Fox News was supposed to be the only one among the big networks to not be anti-Trump, but it boxed itself into a corner by calling Arizona before any of the other networks, completely changing the perspective of the race for many viewers even though the president had easily won in Florida, which was supposed to be much more difficult (and they took their time calling Florida also). Meanwhile, all of the other networks were shamelessly cheerleading for Biden. The main moron at Fox News to call Arizona early was Arnon Mishkin, who was hired as their decision desk chief. He is a registered Democrat and voted for Clinton back in 2016. Great choice.

                                Now a number of world leaders that Trump previously supported or had relatively warm relations with, such as Boris Johnson, Scott Morrison and Narendra Modi, are already congratulating Biden. Fickle friendships in the world of politics. Benjamin Netanyahu has remained silent for now. So has Putin NATO countries can breath a sigh of relief and go back to sponging off the U.S taxpayer. China can relax a little also, now that Beijing Biden is likely to be at the helm next year. So much for mitigating the adverse impacts of globalisation. Interesting times ahead.
                                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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