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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8533

    Australian Government wants to destory illegal downloads

    Including movies, TV shows by cutting access to sites like Pirate Bay.

    I'm fuming already.

    http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/governm...214-hvchm.html
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
  • EgejskaMakedonia
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1665

    #2
    The Liberals were having a go at Labor for so called 'media censorship' in regards to limiting the bias of news limited, yet now they're prepared to censor the internet.

    I can't see this proposal being very popular amongst voters, so I wouldn't expect it to be implemented any time soon. We're already overcharged for access to TV series, games and movies, which is the real reason why people turn to torrent websites.

    Fact is, even if TPB is blocked in Australia, other avenues of downloading will emerge. However, people will resort to all kinds of websites where their computer and information may be at risk. Although the Pirate Bay isn't risk-free, at least there are a number of trusted users who have a proven record with their uploads. It's similar to safe injecting rooms. Drugs are illegal, yet the problem will always be there. They might as well provide an environment that is safer for the user and community, as opposed to having syringes lying around all over the place.

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    • Vangelovski
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 8533

      #3
      From what I can understand (I'm not IT gifted), they plan to force the ISP to cut your internet off of you access these sites or stop you from accessing them in the first place - is that actually possible - to stop you from accessing those sites?
      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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      • EgejskaMakedonia
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 1665

        #4
        Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
        From what I can understand (I'm not IT gifted), they plan to force the ISP to cut your internet off of you access these sites or stop you from accessing them in the first place - is that actually possible - to stop you from accessing those sites?
        I think they can block websites, but there are sometimes ways around this. A number of countries have implemented internet censorship on a large scale, blocking content that may be seen as offensive (pornographic, violent, gambling, etc), but also use it as a means to maintain political dominance. China is a good example of this.

        Some ISPs already issue warnings for illegal downloads. Some specific torrents seem to be tracked by ISPs, and this will trigger a warning. I don't know if they bother much anymore, but it was probably scare tactics more than anything.

        It'd have to be quite a strong incentive from the Government to force ISPs to agree to cutting off the internet of those engaging in illegal downloads. I can't see them giving the boot to a substantial percentage of their customer base. I think a block would probably be more likely, yet obviously a lot more controversial.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #5
          Something needs to be done to protect copyright and royalty streams to the artists and production companies being screwed by the illegal download community.

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          • Vangelovski
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 8533

            #6
            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
            Something needs to be done to protect copyright and royalty streams to the artists and production companies being screwed by the illegal download community.
            They just need to change their business model
            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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            • EgejskaMakedonia
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 1665

              #7
              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
              Something needs to be done to protect copyright and royalty streams to the artists and production companies being screwed by the illegal download community.
              Maybe so, but blocking websites or cutting off internet usage isn't the answer. For those familiar with spotify, it is one program that has proved to be a useful way to reduce music piracy. I use it all the time.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15660

                #8
                Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                They just need to change their business model
                I'm using Netflix nowadays. I've barely downloaded anything since subscribing to this service. Naturally even this is illegal in Australia because I have to fake my ip address to make this work.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  its called getting your house in order.Yes for some things you could pay.But you cannot have complete censorship.There are means &ways to circumvent things.
                  I get my movies from kick ass for free.I expect it for free,By using Kiakass torrents.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • Phoenix
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4671

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    I'm using Netflix nowadays. I've barely downloaded anything since subscribing to this service. Naturally even this is illegal in Australia because I have to fake my ip address to make this work.
                    Do you need a US ip address for it to work?

                    At the end of the day there's a multitude of reasons for illegal downloads, cost is just one factor.

                    What shits me the most is the lag between screening a tv series to it's dvd/blu ray release.

                    I don't mind paying the money for blu ray, knowing that I'm going to get the best quality video, audio and other extras in the package but why on Earth do I have to wait 12 months after the series airs on tv is just crazy.

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      #11
                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
                      its called getting your house in order.Yes for some things you could pay.But you cannot have complete censorship.There are means &ways to circumvent things.
                      I get my movies from kick ass for free.I expect it for free,By using Kiakass torrents.
                      George, as nice as it is to get stuff for "free"....why do you "expect it for free"...?

                      It's another 'product', just like everything else we currently consume...somebody has thought up that idea and created it into a consumer product, with copyright and even ip considerations. Why should we expect this to be "free"?

                      This attitude merely perpetuates the destruction of the entertainment industry, often by the people who need it the most.

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                      • Vangelovski
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 8533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                        What shits me the most is the lag between screening a tv series to it's dvd/blu ray release.
                        And that's if it ever makes it to DVD. Most of the show's I watch never get to Australian television and few are on DVD. Its just a monumental pain in the arse. The only way I can watch them is if I download them - usually off places like Pirate Bay.
                        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          #13
                          'This thread has been discussed before on a another thread,phoenix its a another byproduct of the internet free downloading.Think about the filesharing software that goes on.There are other ways companies make money such as advertising.Even if Australia can stop illegal downloads I dooubt it .There are otherways from other countries.egi india has got all the movies from fox..
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            #14
                            regarding bluray ,dvd downloads theydon't seem to fuction as if there is no booter in to the program,means he thing won't play.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15660

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                              Do you need a US ip address for it to work?

                              At the end of the day there's a multitude of reasons for illegal downloads, cost is just one factor.

                              What shits me the most is the lag between screening a tv series to it's dvd/blu ray release.

                              I don't mind paying the money for blu ray, knowing that I'm going to get the best quality video, audio and other extras in the package but why on Earth do I have to wait 12 months after the series airs on tv is just crazy.
                              Yeah, I use unotelly, but there are other options. Basically costs me about $12 a Month all up. Foxtel really couldn't compete. Happy to walk you through it if you like.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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