Bosnia: Politics and Current Events

[vicsinad]

Just some thoughts:

1. Mladic deserves justice, and hopefully he's publically shamed and locked up.

2. This may be the end of the West (who has worked tirelessly to justify its interventions in the Balkans in the past 2 decades) placing nearly all the blame on Serbia and Serbs for what happened in the 90s.

3. While there aren't many similarities between Macedonia and Serbia, the Macedonian and Serbian governments both, regardless of how they got to this point, love doing whatever it is they can in order to get into the EU.

[markovr]

Good. I hope they hang the bastard

[Dimko-piperkata]

Good. I hope they hang the bastard

i do not remember the film, but in the film they catched a serbian war criminal and released him in TULZA middle on the marketplace with handcuffs and serbian flag around his shoulder....

would this not be the best way to have revenge

[Komita]

A disgrace, in hope for a better life in EU. Just like were selling our identity.

[Dimko-piperkata]

A disgrace, in hope for a better life in EU. Just like were selling our identity.

I agree with u batka...money is their new god

btw,
who is that on your avatar ?

[Louis Riel]

Im still waiting for them to nab Bush....saw him at a baseball game the other day...cant believe the Americans just let him walk around in public like that.

[Louis Riel]

Dimko...thats Nikolai Romanov...the tsar that got gunned down by the bolsheviks.

[George S.]

well didn't he kill 7000 Boznians?He desrves everything that's coming to him.

[Dimko-piperkata]

Dimko...thats Nikolai Romanov...the tsar that got gunned down by the bolsheviks.

he has a bewildering likeness with medvdev....

[Komita]

well didn't he kill 7000 Boznians?He desrves everything that's coming to him.

According to whom?
He saved the serbs in Bosnia from the fate of kosovo serbs.

[Onur]

According to whom?

According to Mladic himself;
YouTube - ‪Ratko Mladic‬‏


Komita, you are no different than ignorant Arabs who praise for Bin Laden.

People like Mladic are just peons. UN and the western world just waited and did nothing for a long time while Croats, Serbians, Bosnians killing each other. As we already know from the pictures, UN soldiers and high ranked commanders even let the wolves(Serbs) freely enter to the sheep farm(Srebrenica) and then they toasted champagnes together. Did you ever think why NATO and UN didn't act for Bosnia as quick as they did for Libya? Or why they didn't prevent them to get in to a war? Ask these questions to yourself.

YouTube - ‪Ratko Mladic captured, charged with massacre‬‏


Serbians kept him hidden for 15 years and now Mladic is 70 years old. Probably they thought like he will die soon anyway, then why don't they get more benefit from him after Srebrenica by using this old dying man as a bargaining chip with EU leaders for membership negotiations? Thats what peons for anyway, right? You use them and then you throw them away like trash.

As for the Kosovar Albanians, they are peons too since no one "liberates" anyone for free and especially Americans never does that. So, when their time is over, when they wouldn't be useful to them anymore, they will be thrown away like toilet paper too, just like Saddam, Bin Laden, Mladic.

But unfortunately, there will always be people like you too, who doesn't see the big picture.

[Zarni]

Onur you are right in every way but i think Komita was stating Mladic was fihting for the Serbian cause which was just a legtimate and right as the lose Muslim Croat allaince, all a matter of perspective, at the end all pawns to be manipalted by the West

[George S.]

K he must've done something bad otherwise they wouldn'be after him.I don't think anyone minds the killing of soldiers in war that's war but the deliberate killing of women,children & innocent people simply by being of a different persuasion will be dealt by the hague.
He has been hiding for a long time & now the law has caught up with him otherwise the serbs won't make it to the eu.It's the same thing as macedonia having to change their name to get into the eu.This time the serbs had to hand mladic over so that they can join the eu.

[lavce pelagonski]

Ratko Mladic: New boy enrolling in The Hague school

Little piece of Yugoslavia survives in Scheveningen prison, albeit one whose inhabitants are accused of terrible crimes

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Ian Traynor
Ian Traynor
guardian.co.uk, Friday 27 May 2011 17.08 BST
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Scheveningen cell
A standard cell of the detention unit in Scheveningen prison. Photograph: Ho/AFP/Getty Images

From the outside looking in, the high walls of Scheveningen prison house some of the nastiest individuals ever assembled in one place.

More than 40 men are accused of the gravest crimes possible, from genocide and the premeditated slaughter of innocents to the torching of villages and the indiscriminate shelling of towns.

From the inside looking out, however, the remand centre for the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia on the Dutch North Sea coast seems to be a relaxed and comfortable hothouse of creativity, a veritable university of amateur learning. There is art and sport, poetry and painting, gourmet cooking, guitars and song.

The detainees made their names stirring up ethnic hatred – Serb against Croat, Croat against Bosnian Muslim, Macedonian against Albanian, Albanian against Serb – in a cycle of killing and persecution that raged from 1991 to 1999 and destroyed Yugoslavia.

But behind the barbed wire of Scheveningen a little piece of Yugoslavia survives, with former warlords, police chiefs and politicians mixing together in a multi-ethnic stew with few problems. They lend one another clothes and books, cook for each other and reminisce about the old days when they exercised terrible power.

"It's very rare that there are any ethnic tensions," said a tribunal official.

"The prison environment is a very interesting one," Ljube Boškoski, a former Macedonian interior minister, revealed recently to a Croatian journalist. "Before going to prison I never imagined that I could paint something. But here you can see mostly my works; the works of a student of The Hague school."

The new boy enrolling in The Hague school is Ratko Mladic, the Bosnian Serb general awaiting extradition to the Netherlands to face charges of genocide and crimes against humanity. A Serbian judge has ruled that Mladic is fit to be sent to The Hague. He will appeal on Monday on health grounds.

If he arrives in the red-brick building in Holland next week the 69-year-old will have a laptop (but probably no internet access), a coffee-machine, family and conjugal visits, massage on request and satellite TV in his room beaming up from the Balkans.

Free to wander the compound from early morning to early evening, Mladic will renew his long double act with fellow Bosnian Serb leader, genocide suspect, and former chess partner Radovan Karadzic. In all likelihood Mladic will join Karadzic in the dock in courtroom No 1 of the former insurance company building that is the tribunal in The Hague, a five-minute drive from his North Sea cell.

They might be accused of unspeakable crimes, but Mladic's peers are – on paper – a high-calibre bunch, including over the years a president, a prime minister, defence ministers, interior ministers, and army and intelligence chiefs. The average age of the class of 2011 is 57 – much higher than in a normal prison.

The nationalities are mixed across the five floors of cells as a matter of policy, say tribunal officials, to try to prevent ethnic minority plotting and hostilities or the formation of tribal mafias.

When Ante Gotovina, a Croatian general recently sentenced to 24 years for persecuting Serbs, arrived in Scheveningen in 2005, his erstwhile arch-enemy, the former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic, lent him a pullover because he was cold, according to Ljube Boskovski who spent three years there before being acquitted of war crimes.

Among the lessons the Macedonian learned as an accomplished cook was to discard the cores of garlic cloves as they cause indigestion. There were also loftier lessons. "We connected through cooking and the classics of world art, poetry. We had lots to talk about in our little cells in The Hague. We swapped recipes."

Mladic is said to have been cheeky when taken to Belgrade's special court on Thursday for formal identification and questioning, evincing contempt for Bruno Vekaric, a Serbian war crimes prosecutor, and making scathing remarks about his beard.

The chutzpah will be amplified internationally in The Hague where Mladic is almost certain to refuse to acknowledge the tribunal's authority, decline defence lawyers, indulge in time-wasting theatrics and insult and intimidate witnesses, who will be subjected to the ordeal of revisiting the terror Mladic inspired in them in the 1990s.

This is all a well-established routine in The Hague. Milosevic, the late Serbian president, spent four years seeking to invalidate the court before dying in custody in Scheveningen.

Karadzic and Vojislav Seselj, an extreme Serbian nationalist and former paramilitary leader, are currently performing to the same clownish script.

The judges, some of whom struggle to display any detailed knowledge of the Balkans or of the events they are reviewing, will be under strong pressure to get a grip and not allow the accused to dictate the terms and timetable of his own trial.

There was much criticism that the Milosevic trial was allowed to drag on too long and remained inconclusive.

The Mladic trial will be the climax to a tribunal set up in 1993 and that the powers behind it want closed down by 2014 at the latest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/27/ratko-mladic-prison-the-hague-scheveningen

[lavce pelagonski]

Sestra Ljube what a joke!