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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    I know. It was me. (At the top of this page)
    I had also seen the same comment somewhere on Twitter, was the point I was trying to make.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    I saw a comment somewhere recently that said Ukraine is starting to look like every other country that the USA has ‘supported’…
    I know. It was me. (At the top of this page)

    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    The USA doesn’t mind all the virtue signaling about democracy, human rights and anti-corruption in foreign lands but seems to destroy states in the process to the point of total dysfunction and economic ruin only to send in their US corporations to do the ‘rebuilding’ - make a shitload of money by pilfering natural resources and then sailing off into the sunset to leave the natives to an even more diabolical future.
    Under the assumption of zero conscience, it is a brilliant plan to be honest. Why stop at your own country? Just mess up other nations and then profit from picking up the pieces.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    I wonder how they're gonna feel about USA's agenda when all this is put to an end. I note Zeleno is going to use Blackrock for the rebuilding of the nation. It's getting real sad now.
    I saw a comment somewhere recently that said Ukraine is starting to look like every other country that the USA has ‘supported’…

    The USA doesn’t mind all the virtue signaling about democracy, human rights and anti-corruption in foreign lands but seems to destroy states in the process to the point of total dysfunction and economic ruin only to send in their US corporations to do the ‘rebuilding’ - make a shitload of money by pilfering natural resources and then sailing off into the sunset to leave the natives to an even more diabolical future.
    Last edited by Phoenix; 12-29-2022, 07:50 AM.

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  • Risto the Great
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    I wonder how they're gonna feel about USA's agenda when all this is put to an end. I note Zeleno is going to use Blackrock for the rebuilding of the nation. It's getting real sad now.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Carlin View Post
    "Ukraine reportedly has 16 brigades on the Bakhmut front. If true, this genuinely is turning into another Verdun or Aleppo. Murderous carnage."

    https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/sta...DT-eieoNEsAAAA
    More and more sources are suggesting that the Ukrainian’s are throwing everything that they have at Bakhmut, this seems to contradict their earlier messaging that Bakhmut is of little strategic importance.

    Some independent commentators are claiming that Ukraine is losing up to 8 fighters per one Russian loss in the Bakhmut meat-grinder.

    It appears that the Russian strategy is to position their forces close enough to Bakhmut to illicit an Ukrainian response to defend territory whilst Russia controls the battle space with relentless and withering artillery fire thus keeping it’s own forces at a safe distance from return fire.

    This will probably go down as the last stand for Ukraine as a common belief is that Ukrainian losses are so great now that they are down to their last 200K troops and many of them are just raw recruits.

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  • Carlin
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    "Ukraine reportedly has 16 brigades on the Bakhmut front. If true, this genuinely is turning into another Verdun or Aleppo. Murderous carnage."

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  • Carlin
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    COMMANDER OF UKRAINE FORCES IMPLIES HE’LL BE FORCED TO DO A MANNERHEIM SURRENDER TO RUSSIA WITHOUT EXTREME WESTERN ESCALATION IN ECONOMIST INTERVIEW

    MANNERHEIM*, Finish surrender

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  • Carlin
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    CNN proudly shows us the traditional Ukrainian salute

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  • Carlin
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    The strikes last night may have been the knockout blow to the Ukrainian grid. Ukrainian telegram channels are reporting total outages or emergency shutdowns in 11 Oblasts, claiming that the repairs may take weeks. Kharkov Oblast is wrecked right now - total blackouts and virtually no internet connectivity.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Comment in the Twitterverse:

    Ukraine is starting to look like all the other countries the U.S. helped

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Carlin View Post
    The amount of loss of Ukrainian life in Bakmut is unprecedented and shocking. Russian losses are relatively lower because of their very slow approach and their priority to ensure minimal losses.
    Apparently Ukrainian sources are reporting losses of up to 70%…

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  • Carlin
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    The amount of loss of Ukrainian life in Bakmut is unprecedented and shocking. Russian losses are relatively lower because of their very slow approach and their priority to ensure minimal losses.

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  • Carlin
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    From "Russians with Attitude" channel:

    There are reports coming in that the north-eastern industrial zone in Bakhmut has been fully captured by Russian forces, including SINIAT cement plant & Artwinery.

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  • Dejan
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    Seems all the world powers are pro-war. It's a money spinner

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  • Risto the Great
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    Originally posted by Carlin View Post
    Merkel reveals the Minsk Agreement was a stalling tactic that allowed the West to militarize Ukraine as an anti-Russian proxy and fortify it for an inevitable war.
    Putin on Merkel's words about Minsk agreements:

    To be honest, it was absolutely unexpected for me. It's disappointing. Frankly speaking, I did not expect to hear this from the former chancellor, because I have always assumed that the German leadership behaves sincerely with us. Yes, of course, it was on the side of Ukraine, supported it, but it still seemed to me that the German leadership has always sincerely sought a settlement on the principles that we agreed on, within the framework of the Minsk process.

    This only shows that launching the SMO was the right decision. It turns out that no one was going to fulfill these Minsk agreements. The point was only to pump Ukraine with weapons and prepare for combat operations. Maybe we should have started all this earlier.
    Trust almost dropped to 0. How to negotiate? About what? And is it possible to negotiate with them? Where are the guarantees? I have said many times that we are ready to sign agreements, but this makes us think about who we are dealing with.
    This democracy stuff is a hoot.

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