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What a bitter and twisted old fool you've become.
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Bill has only been a friend to you and now you attack him simply because he's a Christian.
What a bitter and twisted old fool you've become.Last edited by Vangelovski; 01-11-2015, 01:23 AM.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams -
Yes, Muslims probably do account for the majority of modern day terrorist attacks, but how can that be used as a basis to declare that the entire religion is demonic and cruel? Perhaps people perceived Christianity and other faiths in a similar light when those groups were the primary source of terrorist campaigns. It's just a cycle, in 500 years there will probably be an entirely different group or religion (if it still exists) that will terrorise the world. These events simply accumulate and continue to dampen our opinion of Islam, even though the number of extremists out there is very small, relatively speaking. I don't really blame you, it's hard not to feel a growing anti-Islam sentiment when we hear about these attacks on our very soil and at an increased frequency. But don't let that blind you. Islam is not the enemy. The enemy is a bunch of nutcases using religion as a proxy to justify their twisted ways.Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
The fact is, most of these radicals are either 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from countries that have been devastated by war and had periods of lawlessness. War will do that to people. Even some African immigrants in Australia have trouble assimilating into western culture. It's not their fault, they are just a product of their previous surroundings. You'd find however, that most are grateful and relish the opportunity for a better life. I personally don't know of one Muslim I've met that endorses the actions of these extremists. The most you will get out of them is that the west brought it upon themselves to a degree, and it's hard to argue against that. I'm sure you have Muslim friends Bill. Don't you feel guilty to continue that friendship yet proceed to clump them with extremists, out of spite for their religious beliefs?
At least 90% of the perpetrators of recent terrorist attacks were already known to authorities and have an extensive criminal record. Instead of trying to destroy Islam, it's more worthwhile questioning why these people were permitted to continue roaming the streets. Anyone with such ambitions should be deported, locked up or at least under some kind of restrictions/surveillance. Tightening up immigration policies wouldn't be a bad idea either, especially for European countries.Comment
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Oh c'mon little man. I was refuting his statement about all terrorists being Muslim. I'd hate people thinking this was a Christian fundamentalist forum.Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
I note you still haven't stated your opinion on the matter. Just being your little bitchy self again. Are all terrorists Muslim Tom? Yes or no?Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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Tom
I Sincerely love the bloke regardless of his persecutions. I do not blame him one bit, for he does not know what he does, Which is why I have been ignoring his questions. Not because I don't have an answer, but I need to talk to the real Chris, the one I called brother and he called me brother back. The same Chris that absolutely respected and thought highly of you aswell Tom. I'll never forget his words when I went through a evil time "just meet Tom in person he is one of the loveliest blokes you would meet"......or something along those lines. They were the days before I became born again, why am I such a threat now that my life "spiritually", has changed for the better? What has caused him to turn on you also,Tom? from being your greatest advocate to now despise you.
We are living out scripture, if only Chris can see how powerful Gods words are.
God works in amazing ways and it's no coincidence he used Chris......Chris happened to come up with the answer even though he was not aware of it.
Chris mentioned this scripture, Out of all the scriptures.
This was the lords prophecy (how right he was). Not that it was his intention to divide, but he understood the evil ahead and warned us.35 For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36 and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.
Chris....once our brother (symbolically speaking) now an enemy simply because Jesus is in our lives.
Also this by Chris
Jesus did not come to deceive (as opposed to the many accounts recorded in the Koran about Muhammad). Jesus did not use a sword to kill anyone, he did not murder or entice someone else to murder in any way, full stop. Jesus knew his speaking of truth would be a hard pill to swallow and cut deep (bringing a sward) Because of his honesty, he will be an enemy and those that follow him will be an enemy and have no peace.34 “Do not think that I came to [a]bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
And the question he keeps asking "are all terrorists Muslims"?
He knows perfectly well which particular terrorists I'm talking about. But his style is to be a funny man. Arrogance his his speciality.
Anyway, this conversation should not have been or continue to be Christian vs Islam. Any attempt to make it so diminishes the conversation of a real problem the world faces. Also the many innocent Muslims face.
Apologists (like Chris) need to realise these Islamic terrorists harm Islam more than any drawing of Muhammad will, or more than People who simply point out facts ever would. It can not any longer be swept under the carpet, and in Chris's case, keep trying to push Muhammad out the way and throw Jesus under the buss.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873Comment
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Hello EM
It's been a while mate.
Just to quickly thank you for quoting and understanding what seems to be a confusing point for Chris, that I tried to make.
I need a break for now, but I promise you I will respond honestly to what you wrote, soon.
Quickly, before I go, Why I think the Islamic religion is demonic and cruel? Well I touched on it a little, few posts ago as to the problems of the Koran. We can look and discuss it further. As long as the topic focuses on this subject and it doesn't turn into a left vs right, Christian vs Islam, Creationist vs evolutionist etc etc. These type of threads always tends do go another direction and we never get to bottom of the one particular subject which is why these particular conversations repeat it self over and over.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873Comment
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You're just a bitter dumbarse. Keep posting your bitter anti-Christian dumbarse opinions so even those you thought you had a brain until now (because you never posted more than one line) can see you for who you really are.Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Chris hates us because we are Christians. He's hated Christians for a long time - I went back through some of the religious threads a while back and found him spitting vile at any Christian that openly defended their faith way before we even participated in those threads and this forum. His realisation that we are also what he hates has naturally turned him against us - the same people he supposedly thought of as great blokes before he knew of our faith.Originally posted by Bill77 View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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No answer from you.Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
Telling isn't it.
Spit it out Tom, are all terrorists Muslim?Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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Are all terrorists Muslim Tom?Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostRisto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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'What do you expect if you insult Islam?' British hate preacher BACKS the Paris massacres and tells his followers 'Britain is the enemy of Islam'
Religion of peace ftwComment
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RtG, are you that blinded by your hatred of Christians that you confuse who said what? Do we all just look the same to you? Keep entertaining use with your 'dumbfuck'.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Still no answer Tom?
I asked you your opinion as to whether all terrorists are Muslim.
In fact, I asked many times.
I am curious what you are willing to agree with other Christians about, just because they are Christians.
I like Christians, I even find fuckwits amusing sometimes. I find you amusing sometimes.
Answer the question little man.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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Risto, read my first post then i'll motivate Bill to respond to your post.Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
Christian or no Christian, i'm cringing at your pretentiousness. You might as well protest the earth is flat along with your current agenda.Comment
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