You aussies are for sure familiar with this guy of ours,the sports news say he was the one that scored the winning points for his team and practically secured them the title.Braos be tipce
Macedonian leads Sydney Swans to the title
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Originally posted by Bij View PostNick did a great job, and I'm really proud of him, but he is Macedonian by name only.
How so?On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostBij
How so?
Nicks dad is Macedonian, mum is something else (hungarian or lithuanian, i think). they split a while ago and he grew up with his mum. Doesn't speak macedonian, doesn't understand macedonian, doesn't affiliate with any macedonians, doesn't have much of a cultural understanding or connection.
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Originally posted by Bij View PostIf someone doesn't really identify as a Macedonian, are they a macedonian because of blood line?
Nicks dad is Macedonian, mum is something else (hungarian or lithuanian, i think). they split a while ago and he grew up with his mum. Doesn't speak macedonian, doesn't understand macedonian, doesn't affiliate with any macedonians, doesn't have much of a cultural understanding or connection."The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev
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Originally posted by Bij View PostIf someone doesn't really identify as a Macedonian, are they a macedonian because of blood line?
Nicks dad is Macedonian, mum is something else (hungarian or lithuanian, i think). they split a while ago and he grew up with his mum. Doesn't speak macedonian, doesn't understand macedonian, doesn't affiliate with any macedonians, doesn't have much of a cultural understanding or connection.
Good question! I had no idea of all this info. ....thanks, certainly raises more questions than it answers!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View PostWow That is a bit of a blow... I was convinced he was one of those woggy type of Maco`s who teaches his team mates of all the Macedonian swear words. How did you find that out by the way??
I would rather his name be up in papers and for him to accept that people think of him as Macedonian, than for him to have his name and act like something else (i.e. any of the egejci sports people who allow themselves to be called greeks in the papers).
I met him a few years ago at a QBE corporate event that a guy I was seeing invited me to, and he told me he couldn't speak or understand any macedonian and just shrugged the conversation off.
A few years later I met someone from his family who told me the back story.
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Originally posted by Bij View PostI'm not saying he hates Macedonians, he has just never really been that much a part of it. I don't know that it's really his fault, just a victim of circumstance.
I would rather his name be up in papers and for him to accept that people think of him as Macedonian, than for him to have his name and act like something else (i.e. any of the egejci sports people who allow themselves to be called greeks in the papers).
I met him a few years ago at a QBE corporate event that a guy I was seeing invited me to, and he told me he couldn't speak or understand any macedonian and just shrugged the conversation off.
A few years later I met someone from his family who told me the back story.
That's truly sad, it hasn't taken much for "Macedonism" to be diluted from patriotism. Amazing how our forefathers fought and died to be known as Macedonians and when a Macedonian finally has the spotlight on a national and almost international level.......couldn't give a shit, or isn't really that interested in his roots!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Oh c'mon. Maybe his father was a prick and his Mother raised him by herself. Too much guessing going on.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostBij
That's truly sad, it hasn't taken much for "Macedonism" to be diluted from patriotism. Amazing how our forefathers fought and died to be known as Macedonians and when a Macedonian finally has the spotlight on a national and almost international level.......couldn't give a shit, or isn't really that interested in his roots!"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev
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Originally posted by Momce Makedonce View Post. In my age bracket most Macedonians just dont know and cant be bothered to find out more... Very sad to see
Very sad to see indeed, with the internet now and all the information here on the MTO, it surprises me more young people haven't taken to the forum for a bit of cold hard truth!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostMomce Makedonce
Very sad to see indeed, with the internet now and all the information here on the MTO, it surprises me more young people haven't taken to the forum for a bit of cold hard truth!
It surprises me as well. Our generation has access to so much information regarding Macedonia, yet many choose not to give it a second thought. It makes me worry about future generations. Will they even know where they come from? Hopefully a few have an identity awakening and go on a search to find out who they really are.
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostMomce Makedonce
Very sad to see indeed, with the internet now and all the information here on the MTO, it surprises me more young people haven't taken to the forum for a bit of cold hard truth!
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