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  • Big Bad Sven
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1528

    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    Will we ever find out how many Kosovo born Macedonian citizens live in Macedonia?
    The shiptars would spin you a yarn that the majority of the shiptars in macedonia are born and bred, having families that lived there since the dawn of time.
    They will also say that perhaps a few hundred kosvars were given macedonian citizenship, and the rest went peacefully back to kosovo.

    But anyone with half a working brain can see that a lot of these shiptar trouble makers and warlords in macedonia now are actually from kosovo, and the countless times we see shiptars crossing the border frequently, not to mention news articles in the 90's on how SDSM gave 100,000- 150,000 shiptars macedonian citezenship, and the sudden increase of the shiptar population etc

    But the shiptars will always find a way to worm their way out of that tough question

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    • DraganOfStip
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 1253

      Update:
      The two remaining suspects for the Smilkovo lake killings (those that allegedly pulled the trigger) have been arrested in Kosovo some 3 hours ago.

      ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
      ― George Orwell

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      • Gocka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2306

        Originally posted by DraganOfStip View Post
        Update:
        The two remaining suspects for the Smilkovo lake killings (those that allegedly pulled the trigger) have been arrested in Kosovo some 3 hours ago.

        http://tocka.com.mk/1/88754/uapseni-...te-za-monstrum
        I wonder if they will get a life sentence like the macedonian who recently got that punishment for self defence. Surely if that situation waranted a life sentence then this should be a no brainer as this was unprovoked execution.

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        • Niko777
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1895

          Originally posted by Gocka View Post
          I wonder if they will get a life sentence like the macedonian who recently got that punishment for self defence. Surely if that situation waranted a life sentence then this should be a no brainer as this was unprovoked execution.
          This is Macedonia.... anything can happen

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          • makedonche
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 3242

            Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
            This is Macedonia.... anything can happen
            ...Anything but the right thing!
            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15658

              Kosovo Arrests Macedonia Mass Murder Suspects



              By Balkan Insight -- (March 4, 2013)


              By Edona Peci

              Kosovo police detained the remaining two ethnic Albanian suspects wanted for killing five Macedonians in a politically-charged case that raised ethnic tensions.

              Police said they had detained Alil Demiri and Afrim Ismailovic, the last two of six ethnic Albanians wanted for trial over the high-profile killings near Skopje, the capital of neighbouring Macedonia, in April 2012.

              “The two persons for whom an international arrest warrant was issued were arrested today at about 7pm,” Kosovo police spokesperson Arber Beka told BIRN on Sunday evening.

              He said that the suspects would remain in preliminary detention for 48 hours until the prosecutor decides how to take the case forward.

              The Macedonian prosecution has pressed terrorism charges against the six men suspected of having organised and committed the murders.

              The bodies of Filip Slavkovski, Aleksandar Nakjevski, Cvetanco Acevski and Kire Trickovski, all aged between 18 and 20, were discovered on April 12 last year.

              Their corpses had been lined up and appeared to have been executed. The body of 45-year-old Borce Stevkovski was found a short distance away from the rest.

              The trial, known locally as the ‘Monster’ case, opened in Skopje in December, while Demiri and Ismailovic were still on the run. The others have pleaded not guilty.

              According to the charges, the group wanted to provoke ethnic tensions.

              The court case was already coming to a close and the trial was set to resume on Tuesday with closing arguments from the prosecution and defence.

              But if the two recently-arrested suspects are extradited to Macedonia, there is a possibility that the trial might have to be restaged.

              The arrests on Sunday came after two days of violent protests in Skopje that followed the controversial appointment of a former ethnic Albanian guerrilla as Macedonia’s defense minister.

              The protests escalated into clashes with police for a second day on Saturday when ethnic Albanians took to the streets to demonstrate over alleged mob attacks on their kin by Macedonians during a protest on Friday against the defence minister’s appointment.

              At least 15 people were injured and at least 15 arrested in Saturday’s clashes, the authorities said.

              In 2001, Macedonia went through a short but violent conflict between government forces and ethnic Albanian rebels which ended with the signing of the Ohrid peace accord that granted more rights to Albanians and disbanded the guerrilla force.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Vangelovski
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 8532

                Afrim Ismailovic isn't an Albanian name - most likely Bosnian Muslim.
                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                • ramo
                  Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 117

                  They are all ethnic albanians. No mather the name or surname.

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                  • Niko777
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1895

                    Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                    Afrim Ismailovic isn't an Albanian name - most likely Bosnian Muslim.
                    I also heard he was Albanian (his name was Serbianized)

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                    • The LION will ROAR
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3231

                      One of the brother's of those 5 killed had his car demolished and sprayed...


                      Демолиран автомобилот на братот на убиениот рибар кај Смилковското езеро
                      GRID.MK ги организира, групира, рангира и прикажува содржините од веб-сајтовите согласно дозволените законски и морални норми. Овие функции ги извршуваат компјутерски алгоритми што ги дизајниравме и на кои ќе продолжиме да работиме. Човечкиот фактор нема никакво влијание па затоа можни се грешки.

                      still not known whether the incident is connected with the ongoing trial...
                      no of course not...???
                      These albanians just don't stop...

                      Demolished car of slain fisherman in Lake Smilkovskoto



                      Brother of slain fisherman from Lake Smilkovsko deliberately vandalized
                      Mercedes of AS during the night was demolished and sprayed, settlement Radishani
                      The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                      • Big Bad Sven
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1528

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                        Great short documentary about radical albanian islamists in macedonia and the events that happened when the 5 innocents were killed. If you ask me this threat and even the video i posted should be a sticky on this forum. We need to spread the truth on what is happening in macedonia

                        With this happening and the news of shiptars fighting in Syria macedonia must stop these fanatics.

                        We no longer have the one internal enemy being the nationalist shiptars, we have another one and that is radical islam.

                        The country is falling apart because of these internal enemy's and we need to eradicate them

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                        • Vangelovski
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8532

                          This is ridiculous. These two should be tried in Macedonia for murder, not some BS weapons charges in Kosovo. This is nothing but a protection racket being run by Kosovo authorities.

                          http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...rial-in-kosovo

                          Kosovo to Try Macedonia Mass Murder Suspects

                          Two ethnic Albanians wanted in Skopje over five killings which raised ethnic tensions in Macedonia are to face trial in neighbouring Kosovo for illegal possession of weapons.

                          The two suspects that Macedonia wants to extradite over the high-profile murder case, Alil Demiri and Afrim Ismailovic, will go on trial in Pristina on Friday, three months after they were arrested in the Kosovo capital.

                          “The defendants carried arms without any authorisation, from an unknown date until March 3, 2013,” said the indictment, which has been seen by BIRN.

                          During their arrest, Kosovo police said they confiscated an automatic gun, a pistol, two hand grenades and 31 bullets.

                          “They bought the arms, found in the last apartment where they lived, for any eventuality because they understood they could be in danger [of being targeted] by secret services,” the indictment said.

                          Demiri and Ismailovic could face up to ten years in jail and a fine of up to 7,500 euro if convicted.

                          Four other ethnic Albanians are already on trial in Skopje on terrorism charges over the killings near the Macedonian capital in April 2012 – known locally as the ‘Monster’ case. All have pleaded not guilty.
                          Macedonia has sent an extradition request to Kosovo in the hope of also prosecuting Demiri and Ismailovic, who have been on the run since the trial began last December.

                          The four men on trial were held when police arrested 20 allegedly radical Muslims during an operation last May in several villages around the capital.

                          The bodies of Filip Slavkovski, Aleksandar Nakjevski, Cvetanco Acevski and Kire Trickovski, all aged between 18 and 20, had been discovered on April 12 last year.

                          Their corpses had been lined up and they appeared to have been executed. The body of 45-year-old Borce Stevkovski was found a short distance away from the rest.

                          News of the murder raised ethnic tensions after groups of ethnic Macedonians staged protests, which in some cases turned violent, blaming the killings on members of the country’s large Albanian community.
                          If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                          The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13674

                            Not very surprising given that the leadership in Macedonia are in the habit of respecting those who spit in the face of their country and nation.
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                            • The LION will ROAR
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3231

                              Police arrested 28-year-old S.LJ. Suspect in murder of five Smilkovskoto Lake.
                              GRID.MK ги организира, групира, рангира и прикажува содржините од веб-сајтовите согласно дозволените законски и морални норми. Овие функции ги извршуваат компјутерски алгоритми што ги дизајниравме и на кои ќе продолжиме да работиме. Човечкиот фактор нема никакво влијание па затоа можни се грешки.


                              Полицијата го уапси 28-годишниот С.Љ. осомничен за петкратното убиство кај Смилковското Езеро.

                              Како што информираа од Министерството за внатрешни работи тој е приведен при обид да излезе од Македонија на граничниот премин Блаце. С.Љ. е изведен пред истражен судија и му е изречен притвор од 30 дена.

                              За убиството кај Смилковското Езерово, во Кривичниот суд во Скопје е почнат процес против шест обвинети лица. Африм Исмаиловиќ и Алил Демири се уште се во косовските затвори и покрај барањето за нивна екстрадиција во Македонија.

                              Петкраткратното убиство се случи лани на Велики четврток на брегот на Смилковското Езеро. Беа убиени четворица млади жители на Бутел и Радишани и риболовец од соседното село Црешево.
                              The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                              • Volokin
                                Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 278

                                Life Sentences Urged in Macedonia Mass Murder Trial

                                The prosecutor demanded long jail terms for a group of alleged Albanian extremists accused of killing five Macedonians near Skopje in 2012 - a case that sparked ethnic tensions.
                                Sinisa Jakov Marusic BIRN Skopje

                                The defendants in court.
                                Prosecutor Gordana Geskovska told the Skopje court in her closing arguments on Friday that the murder of five ethnic Macedonians by a group of alleged Albanian extremists during Orthodox Easter in 2012 was an act of terror carried out in order to provoke ethnic strife.

                                Neskoska claimed that message delivered by the killers was: “We shoot on Maundy Thursday so that you will have a bloody Easter. We shoot at young males in order to destroy your faith and nation and the future of the country.”

                                She said that there was abundant evidence proving the defendants’ guilt, including traces of their car near the scene of the murder, transcripts from their cell phone conversations, testimony from protected witnesses and files on their computers that had references to radical Islam.

                                Agim Ismailovic, Fejzi Aziri, Rami Sejdi, Haki Aziri and Sami Ljuta are on trial for alleged terrorism in Skopje. Two other suspects in the case, Alil Demiri and Afrim Ismailovic, remain at large.

                                According to the charges, Alil Demiri and Afrim and Agim Ismailovic committed the murders with automatic rifles, while the others provided logistical support.

                                “The defendants deny the murder but none of them sent condolences for it. It is too late for that now,” Geskovska said.

                                The corpses of Filip Slavkovski, Aleksandar Nakjevski, Cvetanco Acevski and Kire Trickovski, all aged between 18 and 20, were discovered on April 12, 2012. Their bodies had been lined up and appeared to have been executed.

                                The body of 45-year-old Borce Stevkovski was found a short distance away from the others.

                                News of the murder raised ethnic tensions, after groups of ethnic Macedonians staged protests, some of which turned violent, blaming the killings on members of the country’s large Albanian minority community.

                                In May 2012, police arrested 20 allegedly radical Muslims, including four of the defendants, in an operation in several villages around the capital. Most of them were subsequently released, apart from the four defendants. Sami Ljuta was arrested later, in 2013.

                                In 2001 Macedonia went through a short but violent conflict between government forces and ethnic Albanian rebels, which ended with the signing of a peace accord that granted more rights to Albanians.

                                The defence will deliver its closing arguments next month.
                                The prosecutor demanded long jail terms for a group of alleged Albanian extremists accused of killing five Macedonians near Skopje in 2012 - a case that sparked ethnic tensions.


                                I'll be very surprised if they cop anywhere near a life sentence.

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