Smilkovci Lake Killings

[julie]

Brian, no one is telling people within RoM to pick up machine guns and take to the streets! 10000 ALbanians protest the arrest of murderers
100 Macedonians gather and disperse

No one in Macedonia works 24/7 and the poverty they are crying is pitiful and pathetic, have you recently been , if at all???

A peaceful protest can be organised within each town, perhaps on a Sunday, am certain 100 percent of Macedonians dont work then

WHo is saying we need an armed rebellion??

I hope you may take the opportunity to visit Macedonia soon, when I was taken there recently, that made me open my eyes, in so many ways, the softly softly approach is wasted, and the country am not sure you realise, is in diabolical dire straits of extinction

[Vangelovski]

Toby, obviously I'm not even reading your posts anymore because they have left the realm of logical and coherent thought (if they were ever there in the first place). Deducing something without having any evidence to back it up is called living in a fantasy world - much like you do in your "corner", which by the way has extremely little to do with the purposes of the MTO forum and 99% is an irrelevant waste of space.

[Bill77]

Shame on me you say?Why?For putting my daughter's stomach above rallying?

Dragan.......

Soon your daughter will be wearing a head scarf and praying to Alah, thats a certainty. There will be plenty of halal food for you all then mate. I advise you purchase a prayer mat now while they are still going cheap since money is the only interest and a issue for you. Thats the best possible scenario.

But keep in mind, Its quite possible (God forbid and i sincerely pray this doesn't happen) shiptari find your dear daughter alone one night, and she comes back to you in a body bag, just like the five recent Macedonians. setne jadi sirenje is maslinki za dusha na grobod kolku sakash i da se najadish duri da ti se sloshi i povrakjash.

Then its to late rallying. klaj si prsto na oum tro.

[Phoenix]

Brian, I can't even get past your first sentence without getting drowsy. The combination of bad grammar, spelling and purposeless dribble is unique in a terrifying way. Do you actually know what you're trying to say?

Brian's account should have a '25 words or less' default setting and maybe restrict him to the use of a single primary colour in his posts...

[DraganOfStip]

Dragan.......

Soon your daughter will be wearing a head scarf and praying to Alah, thats a certainty. There will be plenty of halal food for you all then mate. I advise you purchase a prayer mat now while they are still going cheap since money is the only interest and a issue for you. Thats the best possible scenario.

But keep in mind, Its quite possible (God forbid and i sincerely pray this doesn't happen) shiptari find your dear daughter alone one night, and she comes back to you in a body bag, just like the five recent Macedonians. setne jadi sirenje is maslinki za dusha na grobod kolku sakash i da se najadish duri da ti se sloshi i povrakjash.

Then its to late rallying. klaj si prsto na oum tro.

Well, in order for the shiptars to do that to my kid she first needs to reach that age,and that isn't possible without food,diapers,clothing etc etc IN THE PRESENT TENSE.Each of these things costs money,and in Macedonia they're an endangered species.I have an obligation like any other parent to provide for my child,and in order to do that i have to work hard,very hard.I was very disappointed too when I barely saw 100 people in front of the government building,those Skopjanishta sure are the biggest cowards in the world.If I wasn't a family man,or if I had a great wage and a lot of free time I most certainly would stand with those 100 people (I salute you,guys!),like I did on several occasions before.However,as I stated before,priorities have changed some 3 years ago.Will my daughter have to study Albanian alongside Macedonian in school?Maybe so,but at least she will LIVE to do it.And I never said that 'money is the only interest for me',you make it sound like I'm a Tony Montana type.An elderly woman that I know works on several places as a cleaner and dishwasher,like restaurants,casinos,cafes and even personal homes.She only has several hours of free time a day and you know what she uses it for?To get some sleep so she doesn't tumble over her broomstick from exhaustion.But her son is a 4th year college graduate and the only thing that made that possible for him was the strong will of his mother for her son to succeed in life.So by your logic she's also a 'traitor','ovca',or every other expression that I noticed being said about me previously,because the little spare time she has she's using for resting rather than rallying.Mock her as well,feel good about yourselves.Skopje has a population of 500 000,out of which almost 350 000 are Macedonians,and yet only 100 of them showed up.Those are the people you need to be furious with,not the kinds like me or the woman I mentioned above.In order to have a future,you must first live through the present.Now go ahead,let some more steam off on me,I have become numb to it anyway.

Sega i ti stavi se na moe mesto i razmisli malku,kako shto me sovetuvashe.

[Risto the Great]

Dragan, you post on this forum.
Please don't do it. You don't even have minutes to spare. You told us this.
If you have spare minutes, do something to help your fellow RoMacedonians. Don't make excuses for yourself.

If I was you, I would contact my friends and tell them to start a revolution. I would use my spare 1 minute every day to do this. I wouldn't be on the MTO forum if I had 1 spare minute every day like you.

[George S.]

People in rom seem to be mostly passive like sheep you could say.Where as what's needed is active people that are doing something about their situation.They should take control of their destiny after all its called macedonia & wasn't it meant for the albanians.Part of the reason is the current mentality of she'll be right we don't need to do anything well that is the wrong approach everything is not ok & they need to react with the right action for every reaction.It is better sooner than later .leaving things for later may be too late.
Why not start a revolution DS you should do it & it may save macedonia.You could call it people power.In other countries they have managed to turn things around.I could say that macedonia was mean't for the macedonians then if people become complacent they will lose their country.

[Bill77]

Well, in order for the shiptars to do that to my kid she first needs to reach that age,and that isn't possible without food,diapers,clothing etc etc IN THE PRESENT TENSE.

Albanbians have all the time in the world for your daughter to reach that age unless you can save her IN THE PRESENT TENSE. Once the control becomes official, ti setne drpajse glata. Then when your kids have grown up, they will thank you and our nation for it. And guess what, not only will you and your daughter loose your identity, religion, freedom, rights (what ever is currently left of it) you will still be poor, crying for food, diapers, clothing etc etc. But instead of saying "lele gospo" it will be "oh ala" that will be rolling off your tongues.

Sega i ti stavi se na moe mesto i razmisli malku,kako shto me sovetuvashe.

nema shto da mislam.

za da ne mise machat naj milite, (da zboruvat albanski so sila, verata da si go menuvat, shami na glajte da nosat, da nemat pravo ili zivot) zivot kje dam.

ne mislam deka razbirash oti ti nesi tatko da te boli za chedo. ti se reshi sudbinata za kerkati i pet pari ne davash

Will my daughter have to study Albanian alongside Macedonian in school?Maybe so

by the way, what's this "along side Macedonian" business? glajte kje ve skrshat ako progorite Makedonski. duri Shota kje mu igrash na kerkati svadbata.....ako si ziv.

[Big Bad Sven]

Dragan, you post on this forum.
Please don't do it. You don't even have minutes to spare. You told us this.
If you have spare minutes, do something to help your fellow RoMacedonians. Don't make excuses for yourself.

If I was you, I would contact my friends and tell them to start a revolution. I would use my spare 1 minute every day to do this. I wouldn't be on the MTO forum if I had 1 spare minute every day like you.

How does Dragan find the money to pay for his computer and monthly internet fees? Especially since the poor bloke cant pay for diapers and macedonia is a third world country and people are starving like its Ethiopia.

Hopefully world vision will notice this one day and westerners can sponsor a starving macedonian child one day.

[Brian]

Dragan.......

Soon your daughter will be wearing a head scarf and praying to Alah, thats a certainty. There will be plenty of halal food for you all then mate. I advise you purchase a prayer mat now while they are still going cheap since money is the only interest and a issue for you. Thats the best possible scenario.

But keep in mind, Its quite possible (God forbid and i sincerely pray this doesn't happen) shiptari find your dear daughter alone one night, and she comes back to you in a body bag, just like the five recent Macedonians. setne jadi sirenje is maslinki za dusha na grobod kolku sakash i da se najadish duri da ti se sloshi i povrakjash.

Then its to late rallying. klaj si prsto na oum tro.

That's way bellow the belt Bill77. Noone said anything to you to deserve that even with the nice caveat - talk in the general sense is one thing, but to use words in the personal sense even with you caveat is too close to the bone. Maybe you didn't mean it like that so show some care in your choice of words even if this whole situation is frustrating you.

[Phoenix]

Hopefully world vision will notice this one day and westerners can sponsor a starving macedonian child one day.

Don't give them the wrong ideas BBS, opportunists will look at your post and scam a way of defrauding World Vision and other such charities.

[Brian]

Brian's account should have a '25 words or less' default setting and maybe restrict him to the use of a single primary colour in his posts...

If someone raises a number of points how do you suggest one answers in '25 words or less'? Do you think points raised should be one per post so the response can fit your '25 words or less'?

[Phoenix]

If someone raises a number of points how do you suggest one answers in '25 words or less'? Do you think points raised should be one per post so the response can fit your '25 words or less'?

Brian, you're getting ahead of yourself...

[Brian]

Toby, obviously I'm not even reading your posts anymore because they have left the realm of logical and coherent thought (if they were ever there in the first place). Deducing something without having any evidence to back it up is called living in a fantasy world - much like you do in your "corner", which by the way has extremely little to do with the purposes of the MTO forum and 99% is an irrelevant waste of space.

As per formula when you have no real reply.

Someone who thinks he's always right.

Your twists of logic are apparent - it's a war of attrition with you, be contra to everything no matter what until the other party give up. And when you don't have a reply to their point, rather than concede, just say your not bothered to read it (lie) and call them stupid.

Mie gajle Vangelovski, ne mie davaat Makedonia, pa ni na tebe.
Mie gajle za imeto.

If you need ONE person to be your whipping-boy to take out your frustrations about RoM out on then there's DraganOf Stip, I'm sure he can handle himself, but remember on the Net EVERY can see you.

your "corner", which by the way has extremely little to do with the purposes of the MTO forum and 99% is an irrelevant waste of space.

Really? Which bit's the 1%?
Maybe USA/Canada Macedonians count for 1% in your book - why not, they always have the evil UMD based there. Maybe they're evil too, yeah that's it.

The FACT! that USA events have a direct bearing on world (helloooo...that planet you live on) events doesn't matter any more than 1% to you, who cares as long as you've got the cricket and football, Aussie Rules, of course.

[Brian]

Brian, you're getting ahead of yourself...

That's Ok, as long as your way behind me.