Bye Bye THRACE! - Greek deepest fears of losing territory

[Risto the Great]

Ι guess democracy for you should look like Australia,where a 15 y.o child was killed by a policeman (just some days after the incidence in Athens) ...and nobody protested.
So,..natural.

Yawn.
Would you rather Australians rise up and unite .... then bomb the banks?

[Jankovska]

Yawn.
Would you rather Australians rise up and unite .... then bomb the banks?

Hahaha we protest in the UK but we didn't go blowing everything up- what is with the Greeks and making cheap excuses for everything bad that goes around in their country.

[TerraNova]

Hahaha we protest in the UK but we didn't go blowing everything up- what is with the Greeks and making cheap excuses for everything bad that goes around in their country.

Of course not...there are 4.2 million CCTV cameras in UK.
Big Brother watching you

[Bratot]

Opalakii




Турците се подготвуваат да окупираат остров во Егејско Море

Turkey is preparing to occupy an island in the Aegean


Грчките вооружени сили се во состојба на највисока борбена готовност, бидејќи Турците се подготвуваат да окупираат еден остров во Егејското море, пишува во своето денешно издание грчкиот весник “Авриани“, пренесува Нетпрес.
“Со нескриена поддршка од САД, провокациите на Турција во Егејското море, ескалираат и се на пат да доведат до нова Имија“, коментираат за весникот извори од грчкото министерство за одбрана.

Greek army is in position of highest readiness, because of the Turkish intentions to occupy an island in the Aegean sea.
With open USA support, the Turkish provocations in the Aegean are escalating and are close to bring to a new Imia.

Имија се два мали ненаселени острови, кои Турците ги нарекуваат Кардак, и кои во јануари 1996 година беа причина за конфликт меѓу Поранешна Отоманска Покраина Грција и Турција. Тогаш двајца турски новинари, на едниот од островите поставија турско знаме, на местото на грчкото, кое пак таму било ставено во 1995 година. Веднаш потоа 24 воени бродови на грчката морнарица го опколија островот. Конфликтот, познат како Кризата со Имија, беше решен по неколку дена по дипломатски пат. Двете држави беа приморани да ги повлечат воените сили од тој реон.
“Воената агресивност на Анкара со план за дестабилизиација на Поранешна Отоманска Покраина Грција, е подготвена по рецепт на тајните служби на САД, чија цел е соборување од власт на непожелните“, додава во својот текст денеска грчкиот весник.

Imia is 2 uninhabited small islands, which the Turks call - KARDAK, also in 1996 they were the reason in the conflict between Greece and Turkiye. When 2 Turkish journalist have set up the Turkish flag on the place of the Greek which were standing from the year before -1995.
Right after that, 24 naval ships of Greek army surrounded the island.
The conflict known as the Crisis with Imia, was resolved in couple of days with diplomatic efforts.
The both countries were forced to withdraw their armies from the region.

"The military agression of Ankara with a plan to destabilize Greece, is prepared on a USA secret service scenario in order to break down the greek government"

http://netpress.com.mk/vest.asp?id=47708&kategorija=5

Грчката опозиција бара свикување на Националниот совет поради состојбата со Турција

Greek opposition of the Radical Left coalition - SYRIZA called for a urgent National Council!

Грчката коалиција на радикалната левица “Сириза“, настојува за свикување на вонредна седница на Националниот совет за надворешна политика поради ескалацијата и затегнување на состојбата во реон во Егејското море на границата со Турција, објавува весникот “Навтемборики“, пренесува Нетпрес.
Според текстот, писмото со барање, “Сириза“ го испратила до министерот за надворешни работи на Поранешна Отоманска Покраина Грција, Дора Бакојани. Во него било наведено дека свикувањето на Националниот совет е неопходно за да биде дефинирана позицијата на Поранешна Отоманска Покраина Грција.
“Големо беспокојство дава последниот развој на случувањата во Егејско море, за што е нужно да биде дадена информација“, било посочено во писмото на “Сириза“, во кое биле наведени и провокациите на турски воени авиони насочени кон Поранешна Отоманска Покраина Грција над одредени острови во источниот дел на Егејското море.

http://netpress.com.mk/vest.asp?id=47716&kategorija=5

[Bratot]

CIA Preparing To Install Military Government In Greece

And lil old info... but interesting from the perspective today )


Real agenda behind riots could be related to Russian oil pipeline

The increasingly violent riots in Greece could be the curtain raiser for a military coup d’etat and the installation of a new government more friendly to U.S. hegemony as a countermeasure to increasing Russian influence over the Balkan state.

It wouldn’t be the first time the CIA has assisted in such a venture - they aided the 1967 installation of a U.S. friendly military junta known as the Regime of the Colonels ostensibly to prevent Greece from falling under Soviet control, a fascist cabal which was later overthrown in 1973.

[Spartan]

And lil old info... but interesting from the perspective today )


Real agenda behind riots could be related to Russian oil pipeline

The increasingly violent riots in Greece could be the curtain raiser for a military coup d’etat and the installation of a new government more friendly to U.S. hegemony as a countermeasure to increasing Russian influence over the Balkan state.

It wouldn’t be the first time the CIA has assisted in such a venture - they aided the 1967 installation of a U.S. friendly military junta known as the Regime of the Colonels ostensibly to prevent Greece from falling under Soviet control, a fascist cabal which was later overthrown in 1973.

Increasingly????
The riots are pretty much done

[Bratot]

Yes, I pointed out that the info is older, before the escalation.

[Spartan]

My bad, didnt see that part

[Bratot]

«Greece has done everything it can to worse things»
KOSTAS GRIVAS, university professor
Greece has done ... What it can to increase the Turkish aggression in the Aegean, stresses in «Sunday Nation» Dr Costas Grivas, expert on war and geopolitical analysis technology. He teaches at the Ionian University and author of several books on defense and international relations.
What do you think are the factors that have led to the Turkish provocative behavior in the Aegean;
The unprecedented Turkish aggression that we see today is largely a result of wider global trends. Today we live the collapse of the international system monopolikou dominant pole in the United States. The notion that emerging conflicts within a multipolar international system tends to become commonplace. Turkey is seeking to claim an important role in this new global system diamorfoumeno and this leads to the expansion behavior in the Aegean.Turkey is not alone in the Aegean. Greece what?
It makes what can be worse things. Another factor that fosters Turkish aggression is the impairment of the validity of the Greek armed forces.The geopolitical identity of a single country and what happens within and outside mirrors. The deterrent capacity of Greece may have suffered great damage after Dekemvriana 2008. Turkey appears to have taken the message that Greece is not in any way to react dynamically to review policy in the Aegean and Greek if affected vital interests.
At the moment what can practically be done to bring the situation to a crisis Imion type;
Athens is currently difficult to base credible deterrent sentence, for the simple reason that Ankara did not take seriously. Accordingly, a «rigid» English line, which would attempt to «brake» Turkish aggression with «hard» words, at this time would hardly credible and could lead to uncontrollable situations. This not mean that we slip into a policy of appeasement, because Turkey is not «simmer down». The most important thing is to start today a reconstruction effort of the Greek deterrent capacity, starting with stopping the collapse of the Greek armed forces.The government of Southwest has taken a policy which leads to a systematic degradation of the validity of the Greek armed forces.
How dangerous is the situation?
If there is no quick and decisive strengthening of the Greek deterrent capacity, a heated incident between the two countries, or something much worse about inevitable.

[Bratot]

Bad news folks..


"Brussels see a Greek crash" - 500,000 UNEMPLOYED IN 2009

Ελληνικό κραχ βλέπουν οι Βρυξέλλες


Faced with possibility of half a million unemployed in the most-optimistic scenario, will be in 2009, the Government, as the first information coming from Brussels on the estimates for the state of the economy, which is expected announcement Monday January 19 is extremely ominous.

In this half a million unemployed under the optimistic scenario, people will not be included in training process, new entrants to the labor market, but also self-small and medium-sized businesses will see their businesses to close.

A foretaste of the forecasts of 19 January was only the day before yesterday, when the European Statistical Office announced the details of the anergiapou increase steadily longer, but primarily for development. Greece in the third quarter of 2008 showed growth of 0.4% over the previous quarter, when the display was 1.1%.

Community sources report that the development of Greece will move about 1.5% versus 2.7% in the budget. Unemployment, according to NSSG (pp: and related juggling) moves to 7.2% for 2008, expected to exakontistei at 9.2%, while the predictions of last November was 8.2% .

The same sources Community conclude that in reality and these figures are optimistic, since the real reason Greek particularities (shipping, tourism affected by the crisis more) should be at 0.7%. The figures for the deficit-both in 2008 and 2009 - is expected to reach 4%, although «psychological» reasons probably would avoid the sign and 4 will be something between 3.7% and 3.9 %. Practically, that is, Greece will be unemployed than 357,000 today, in a minimum period of about 500,000 unemployed, the most optimistic scenario.

And although Komision avoid political considerations, officials speak openly about the risk of social conflict because of the labor market, but also the impact of unemployment especially among young people and immigrants.

Supervision. At the same time, the Greek government should address, and re surveillance of Brussels, after having a deficit well above 3% for two consecutive years and, indeed, without any justification in the international financial crisis. And here begins another major problem for the Greek government: either we must present a convincing program in Brussels «special measures» reduce costs and increase revenue, namely to adopt the same harsh austerity measures or risk to be rejected program as inadequate. Lending. But the problem does not stop here, and surveillance has been added to the headache of huge public debt and the need for borrowing-in 2009, the country should provide 50-60 billion. When Germany difficult to find 6 billion, one can understand what the markets since Greece.

The optimists argue that the euro will not allow a member country to «bankrupt» - and will guarantee the Commission itself and the European Central Bank lending in Greece for political reasons .

http://www.tanea.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=1&artid=4495882

[Bratot]

Brothers.. do you remember the saying : " DUZAN KO GRCKA"!?
when someone is over-indebted?
It is so...true!!

[Sweet Sixteen]

In the coming triple Local and European Elections (May 18 & 25, 2014) Muslims of Thrace will have (for the first time) an independent minority party, called Equality, Peace and Friendship.

I don't know yet if they will try to approach and include all Muslims of Greece but this will be a first chance to count the Muslims of Thrace and the Muslims all over Greece as a political power per district.

Also, the Muslims of Thrace will have an independent minority candidate for peripheriarch of Eastern Macedonia & Thrace and probably candidate Mayors in Xanthe and Comotene. Truth is a similar attempt in 2010 (for Mayors only) didn’t go very well: 7% in Xanthe, 8% in Comotene.

Rainbow Party will also participate in the European elections (as usually). I searched for some activity in the local elections (e.g. in West Macedonia, Florina/Melite etc.) but couldn’t find anything for the moment even though there are probably up to 8 (!) candidate Mayors in Florina.


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[George S.]

What guarantee do we have that Greece will allow all these parties to exist.You don't think the govt will intervene & pass some law making it all illegal?It seems too good to be true.

[Sweet Sixteen]

What guarantee do we have that Greece will allow all these parties to exist.You don't think the govt will intervene & pass some law making it all illegal?It seems too good to be true.

Lately, there are several scenarios and worries that Golden Dawn will somehow be blocked from elections, and that is yet to see. Elections are in a month from now.

Rainbow Party exists for about 20 years (I think). I don't see any problem with the Islamic Party either.

[George S.]

the golden dawn party seems to be keeping on.Can the greek govt legislate agains't it.As an alternative party it seems to be having some admiration by some as it still wants to be thriving no matter what.