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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Bukefal View Post
    People like me ? lol

    Ugh, I already regret that I even tried smh
    Yes, people like you...are you suggesting that every Macedonian representative organization be promoted as 'untouchable' just so we can appear to be united...that's fuckin' crazy.

    Tell you what I reckon...once UMD even remotely represents the views of the Macedonian diaspora, perhaps then they might escape some criticism...

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  • Bukefal
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    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    I don't know of a single criticism of UMD that wasn't a valid concern...actually its the blind acceptance of organizations like UMD from people like you that is of the greatest concern...
    People like me ? lol

    Ugh, I already regret that I even tried smh

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  • lavce pelagonski
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    This has been taken from informator so think of it what you like

    Триумф на ВМРО-ДПМНЕ и Мики Додевски во Австралија

    ВМРО ДПМНЕ победата ја започнува од Австралија со голем триумф на Мики Додевски.

    На изборите кои се одржаа денес во Конзуларните преставништва во Мелбурн и Камбера Македонската дијаспора го оствари правото на глас и за прв пат гласа во голем број.

    На овие фер и демократски избори масовното појавување на гласачите уште во раните утрински часови се покажа дека Македонците со гордост го прават тоа и дека ова е историја за нив.

    Прв кој гласаше во Македонскиот конзулат во Мелбурн беше Никола Јовевски, Претседател на комисијата која допатува од Република Македонија е Снежана Кумева.

    На денот не беа забележани некои поголеми инциденти затоа што се знае како се работи и гласа во една демократска земја како што е Австралија.

    Радоста и гордоста кај гласачите се гледаше во насмевките, а оние кои не можеа да гласаат вината ја вперија кај Државната Изборна комисија на чело со Борис Кондарко.

    Прв пратеник од дијаспората е Милорад (Мики) Додевски од ВМРО ДПМНЕ и со тоа владеачката партија овие избори ги започна со победа.
    Останува да видиме како ќе се одвиваат изборите и во другите места и како што се очекуваше Македонците во Македонија и дијаспората ја имаат довербата во вледеачката ВМРО-ДПМНЕ и повторно се очекува да победат со голема разлика како и претходните избори.

    Мики Додевски својата победа ја издвојува со многу голема разлика, и прославата и победата почна да се прославува на неколку места на величествен начин.

    Официјални резултати од предвремените избори за 2011 година во Австралија во изборна единица 9 се следните:

    Милорад Мики Додевски од ВМРО-ДПМНЕ – 531 глас

    Неда Ѓореска од СДСМ - 18 гласа

    Трајче Гулевски од ОБЕДИНЕТИ ЗА МАКЕДОНИЈА - 12 гласа

    Ицо Најдовски од ДОСТОИНСТВО - 13 гласа

    Моментално во Мелбурн има голема прослава за победата на Мики Додевдски, каде сите заслужни заедно ја прославуваат победата, во која е вклучен и Никола Ставрески-уредникот на Информатор.

    Од ова може да се заклучи дека дијаспората цврсто стои зад владеачката ВМРО-ДПМНЕ.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Bukefal View Post
    Kind people. I don't get this. Stop your UMD hate fest already.

    We all know how hard it is for the Macedonian people to stand as one, to get together and be united and solidar for one cause. It is impossible. We Macedonians are a very individualistic people.

    Macedonians have tried in the past with organisations and causes and everything, most of them have failed, and most of them turned out in a mud slinging bunch of Macedonians who have problems amongst themselves.

    When you have that, when you cant stand together among eachother, then its impossible to stand as one for one cause.

    The UMD however, has accomplished it very well, at least better. They at least tried, and we all know how hard it is for Macedonians to get together for something, to show solidarity and agreement. They at least tried, and I think they succeeded a bit.

    But again and again, we see Macedonians who disagree, going on a hatefest towards this organisation and again trying to make it impossible for a Macedonian organisation to be united and strong.

    Trying to bring them down.

    Am I saying you should agree with everything the UMD does? No, of course not! Am I saying you should let the UMD represent you? No, of course not !

    If you dont agree with the UMD, fine. If you dont want them to represent you as part of the Macedonian diaspora, fine. But, dont turn it into a hatefest, and trying to rip everything what has to do with the UMD.

    If you dont like what they do and what they stand for and you feel misrepresented, then why dont you yourself start a organisation? Instead of spreading hate towards the UMD, why dont you show you can do a better job and start doing something yourself? All better than just plain hating, for the sake of hating. Take some action then, instead of putting all your energy into hating on the UMD on the internet.

    This disunity and mud slinging makes us look bad, it makes us look bad towards our own community, but also towards outsiders who the Macedonian people have problems with.


    How are we going to stand strong towards our neighbours and enemies, if we cant even live together ourselves.
    I don't know of a single criticism of UMD that wasn't a valid concern...actually its the blind acceptance of organizations like UMD from people like you that is of the greatest concern...

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  • Bukefal
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    Kind people. I don't get this. Stop your UMD hate fest already.

    We all know how hard it is for the Macedonian people to stand as one, to get together and be united and solidar for one cause. It is impossible. We Macedonians are a very individualistic people.

    Macedonians have tried in the past with organisations and causes and everything, most of them have failed, and most of them turned out in a mud slinging bunch of Macedonians who have problems amongst themselves.

    When you have that, when you cant stand together among eachother, then its impossible to stand as one for one cause.

    The UMD however, has accomplished it very well, at least better. They at least tried, and we all know how hard it is for Macedonians to get together for something, to show solidarity and agreement. They at least tried, and I think they succeeded a bit.

    But again and again, we see Macedonians who disagree, going on a hatefest towards this organisation and again trying to make it impossible for a Macedonian organisation to be united and strong.

    Trying to bring them down.

    Am I saying you should agree with everything the UMD does? No, of course not! Am I saying you should let the UMD represent you? No, of course not !

    If you dont agree with the UMD, fine. If you dont want them to represent you as part of the Macedonian diaspora, fine. But, dont turn it into a hatefest, and trying to rip everything what has to do with the UMD.

    If you dont like what they do and what they stand for and you feel misrepresented, then why dont you yourself start a organisation? Instead of spreading hate towards the UMD, why dont you show you can do a better job and start doing something yourself? All better than just plain hating, for the sake of hating. Take some action then, instead of putting all your energy into hating on the UMD on the internet.

    This disunity and mud slinging makes us look bad, it makes us look bad towards our own community, but also towards outsiders who the Macedonian people have problems with.


    How are we going to stand strong towards our neighbours and enemies, if we cant even live together ourselves.


    PS: Before I may get accusations. Let me get it straight that I do not represent the UMD nor am I a UMD member. I am just a concerning neutral Macedonian.
    Last edited by Bukefal; 06-04-2011, 06:27 AM.

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    they have all gone on their little tangent & think it will lead to glory but i think it's going to be a let down politicians have always screwed the common man.Also they are all going to sell us where it counts in our identity.
    George, you have failed to recognize a much more serious matter.

    Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post

    Well, they claim not to support any political parties which is a crock of shit and lets see how many UMD members vote for Dragi in Toronto (United Macedonians) who are not UMD friendly. ULTIMATE INSULT THEY LISTED HIM AS "STOJKOVSKA" and last. Take, a wild guess who they want to win?

    Krste Blazheski
    His, name is listed on top for a reason (see 2010 toronto) but they don't think Macedonians are smarter then them - much more! When, you speak at a UMD conference it's just the start of your problems ie. Maknews, and I have a feeling it may effect other organizations and companies as well.
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  • George S.
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    they have all gone on their little tangent & think it will lead to glory but i think it's going to be a let down politicians have always screwed the common man.Also they are all going to sell us where it counts in our identity.

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
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    Originally posted by Pelister View Post

    They might claim to be a non-profit and therefore non-aligned, but this is just more bullshit. There is no one MORE political than UMD.
    100% fact Pavle


    Originally posted by Pelister View Post

    Any candidate who is a UMD member, should not be allowed to stand as a candidate.

    Watch, the next card I play - scandal .. See Garfield, New Jersey and the president of the UMD

    Krste Blazheski was born in Struga, Macedonia, on 28 September 1963. After completing primary school in Skopje, together with his mother and brother leave the United States where he accompanied his father, who is already 5 years working abroad in New Jersey. In Garfield, New Jersey finishes high school and spent two years at the Graduate School. Together with his brother, returned to Macedonia where he continued his studies. A graduate of Mechanical Engineering in Skopje in 1989 godina.Po graduation, Krste serving military service in the last generation of the JNA.

    Following 15 years spent in the U.S., where it begins its business in the field of construction, transport and trade in food. Cross is married to Katharina Blazeska which have three sons: Christopher, Alexander and Gregory.

    From 2001 he was President of the church board at church. Cyril and Methodius in Siderno Grov, New Jersey, in which the term contributes to the successful completion of the construction of the church and its consecration. Same time, participate in organizing the gathering financial aid for the victims in the conflict in 2001. At the time of his tenure was the host of numerous Macedonian delegations.

    Blazheski crucifix is ​​a regular participant at the annual convention of Macedonian emigrants in America and Canada.

    In 2007, due to major investment being made in Macedonia in Skopje returns with his family. In Macedonia, the U.S. and Canada, Cross - Chris is known as a family man, honest and successful businessman and former president of the church board at church. Cyril and Methodius in Siderno Grov, New Jersey.

    1.Zoshto think you're the right candidate to represent the Diaspora in the Assembly?

    As a candidate from the diaspora, I believe that to best understand the problems that hundred Macedonians from the diaspora, Canada and America are soocuvaat during their stay in Macedonia. When a man will spend the same difficulties, problems and the NFL that any Macedonian faces when they returned to his birthplace, you can understand the issues, while trying to find resenieto the same. My experience with half a life spent in America and half in Macedonia as well as my education in America and Macedonia, make me the best candidate as an example for future generations.

    2nd Specify a program designed for your Macedonian communities in your constituency and explain how you plan to use.

    Exchange-Children up to 16 godinishna age to reside in families in Macedonia Macedonian and vice versa. This would have made zlizhuvanje of families from different areas of the diaspora and various areas of Macedonia. She would exchange grew quickly and it contributed to the rapprochement of the Macedonian people worldwide. Why a Macedonian family from any part of Macedonia, no friends in America and Canada except their relatives?
    Oraniziranje annual meetings in Macedonia, where through the exchange of children, the Macedonian people would zblizhuval. Also, organizing summer camps for children with Macedonian origin living abroad in Macedonia.
    -Building a retirement homes in different cities in Macedonia can make an income of 2 to 3 millioni dollars a month, and it 3000-4000 pensioners with their $ 1,000 pension (plus or minus), would receive much more in Macedonia and also and Macedonia would get by employing over 1000 people who would care for our Macedonians from the diaspora, which would contributed to a better existence in 1000 families in Macedonia.
    -Opening a coordinating body that would regulate investment by the Diaspora in Macedonia and it would aid in various investments in small, medium and large businesses.
    -Sharing knowledge (know-how) of intelligence from Macedonia and the diaspora in different areas.
    -Bring together young people from the diaspora with Macedonia would not have to assimilate the young world.

    3rd How do you plan to maintain contact with voters in the constituency and to help some details connected with the Republic of Macedonia?

    -Voters in the Diaspora in the next period would be mostly covered with what I propose to open a department of the Ministry which would work only for the Diaspora. It certainly can not be completed within one month, but will last for years. Next I suggest is that every child born of Macedonian parents or parent, after the simplest way to dobbie Macedonian citizenship and passport. You never know what will become that child. It is our wealth.
    -Opening of offices in the Diaspora where we have over 1,000 Macedonian citizens, cooperation with all registered non-governmental organizations in the Diaspora and with the help of the diaspora would have made much greater successes in the aforementioned works.

    4th How will you help improve conditions for investing in Macedonia diaspora (such as judicial reform)?

    True anti-corruption and ensuring an independent and functional judiciary is also a professional and independent public administration, will privlecat investors and spur economic growth. Investors will be interested to invest in our country only if they had assurances that they would have access to unbiased justice and to trnsparentna and efficient administration. Zaokruzuvanje the reform process and completing the reform agenda in the country that will not make pospremni and attractive for membership in international organizations and only then will be located on a small investment in Macedonia.

    5th How will consider the positions of the voters in your constituency compared with the positions of your party?

    -My party is the Republic of Macedonia. All Macedonians from the diaspora are my members in my party, and the voice from across the diaspora is much larger than it is on any party. If we fail to unite the voices of the Diaspora. Only it's way out of the situation our country is guaranteed and will unite and show an example of how Macedonia should razmilsuva for his future and the next generations. We know what can bring separation, which can bring unity.

    6th What is your position on the name issue?

    The name is a name. Each one gets a name in life, and since this is the one and only our name, we have another name. I have to stop talks on the name. We are Macedonians and our country is Macedonia. The name should not be amended in any case.

    NOTE

    If, you're in the Macedonian media get busy this is a gift from me to you.

    Krste Blazeski donations and other campaign contributions on Huffington Post
    TURKISH-MACEDONIAN BUSINESS FORUM5 December 2009, Istanbul
    Robert & Krste Blazeski bought 420 Van Bussum Ave for $1 from Naume Kostovski
    Krste Blazeski - $300 in Political Contributions for 2006, Campaign Finance, Money, American politics, American political campaign contributions, presidential campaign contributions



    - My party is the Republic of Macedonia. All Macedonians from the diaspora are my members in my party

    Sorry, to break the news to you; however, MOST Macedonians in diaspora are not from the republic - now what? And, since the UMD like to avoid the tough ones what's your thought on scrapping the "ventilator" and replacing it with the Macedonian flag?

    UMD IS DEAD
    http://archive.tellytube.in/video/0V...ce-Part-2.html (Blazeski)
    Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 06-04-2011, 01:39 PM.

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  • Pelister
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    Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
    Well, they claim not to support any political parties which is a crock of shit and lets see how many UMD members vote for Dragi in Toronto (United Macedonians) who are not UMD friendly.
    They might claim to be a non-profit and therefore non-aligned, but this is just more bullshit. There is no one more political than UMD. Even its choice of words in its title, United Macedonian Diaspora, are highly politicized, to give a false impression that they are 'representative'. My point is that they are not. They sit at the lunatic fringe - they represent their MEMBERS, and any UMD candidate with be representing the UMD organisation in Macedonian parliament - not the Macedonian disspora.

    They represent less that .01 percent of the Macedonian diaspora. Any candidate who is a UMD member, should not be allowed to stand as a candidate.

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
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    Originally posted by Pelister View Post

    A UMD candidate will be representing the UMD Organisation in the Macedonian parliament, NOT the Macedonian diaspora, because they speak for their members, no one else. Any suggestion by any one of them that they speak for the Macedonian Diaspora, will be lying outright - and all Macedonians should be on the look out for any UMD Candidate claiming to speak for the Macedonian Diaspora, as a whole, because they would be lying.
    Well, they claim not to support any political parties which is a crock of shit and lets see how many UMD members vote for Dragi in Toronto (United Macedonians) who are not UMD friendly. ULTIMATE INSULT THEY LISTED HIM AS "STOJKOVSKA" and last. Take, a wild guess who they want to win?

    Krste Blazheski
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  • Pelister
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    UMD will nomite a candidate, or more - but the Macedonian government ought to realise (as most Macedonians here already have), that UMD does not represent the Macedonian diaspora. The UMD organisation represent their 'members' - which number how many, 500 worldwide, possibly more? Any candidate that is nominated by the UMD organisation, and chosen will be representing the UMD organisation in the Macedonian parliament - not the Macedonian diaspora; because UMD do not represent the Macedonian diaspora. Their leaders are at the lunatic fringe of the community, advocating name changes, supporting the Interim Accord, and Framework Agreement, even supporting the Albanians during the 2001 by describing it as a "fight for greater rights".

    A UMD candidate will be representing the UMD Organisation in the Macedonian parliament, NOT the Macedonian diaspora, because they speak for their members, no one else. Any suggestion by any one of them that they speak for the Macedonian Diaspora, will be lying outright - and all Macedonians should be on the look out for any UMD Candidate claiming to speak for the Macedonian Diaspora, as a whole. Such comments will be intended to deceive.
    Last edited by Pelister; 06-04-2011, 12:31 AM.

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
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    North American Candidates


    - United Macedonian Diaspora to submit a questionnaire of the 5 candidates for Macedonian MP from the diaspora to North America. Candidates Krste Blazheski, Stojadin Naumovski, Paul Sazdov Dusan Sinadinovski and dear Stojkovski. Our questions and their answers follow. Glasajneto will be held in diplomatic and consular missions of the Republic of Macedonia.

    Well, I have some questions (questionnaire) but I will wait and see what you people think. Advice, to ALL candidates tell the UMD to stick it up their ass because they have no business seeking answers from anyone - bunch of nobody's working with Phil Reeker (usa informants) and the rest of the US government.

    - 4th How will you help improve conditions for investing in Macedonia diaspora (such as judicial reform)? Makes, as much sense as the UMD - none. What, judicial reforms do the seek in diaspora? Great, they want Macedonia to invest in the diaspora .. wtf

    Today is June 4, 2011 and when is the election? Personally, I would have waited until Monday before they posted it on the website - shock effect.
    Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 06-03-2011, 11:55 PM.

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  • Pelister
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    For mine, the only candidates that qualify are ones who have been clear in terms of where they stand on the theats facing our political existence, and our territory (and understand why).

    1. End the negotiations
    2. Reject the Interim Accord, because of what it stands for
    3. Reverse the effects of the Ohrid Framework Agreement, which has seen over 70 laws changed (most of them under Gruevski), giving Albanians more autonomy, local government control, control of the local courts, and basically federalised Macedonia, legally. I should add that Gruevski has done this.

    The only people (that I know) who believe in doing something about these things are the founding members of this forum, the people at AMHRC and MHRMI, and relations. They all have a few things in common, and one of them is a good understanding of the terms and content of these anti-Macedonian documents, and why they are bad for our future. I would be happy to see any one of them as a candidate, as long as its not a UMD representative, who continually bullshit their way through it by claiming to represent the Macedonian diaspora in a United front.

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  • lavce pelagonski
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    I co is the candidate for Dostoinstvo.

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    it seems to me people just appoint themselves & use that word united for their own need.
    I, think something very fishy ("united" ) is going on in the USA and lets find out exactly what that is here. Fasten, your seat belts this should be interesting and I don't give a shit if someone loses their non-profit status in North America - against the law, and I will not protect criminals and their members.

    Macedonian Truth
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